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« on: April 17, 2013, 05:53:08 AM »
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-22184232

LOTR, kiwis, and gay marriage. A winning combination. Tongue
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« Reply #1 on: April 17, 2013, 06:16:59 AM »
« Edited: April 17, 2013, 06:57:05 AM by politicus »

Not sure I get it. Do Kiwi birds have some same-sex sexual behaviour?
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« Reply #2 on: April 17, 2013, 06:51:27 AM »
Good to see.
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« Reply #3 on: April 17, 2013, 07:01:28 AM »
Can't say I'm surprised. Isn't New Zealand the most socially liberal country in the Anglosphere?
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« Reply #4 on: April 17, 2013, 07:31:08 AM »
Firstly, well done New Zealand!

Secondly, I like that in a story about NZ Australia still gets a couple of mentions. Roll Eyes

Thirdly, it looks like there's a bit of a head of steam at the moment, which is great, but I can't see it really affecting too many countries other than the ones already in the process of making it legal in the near term.
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« Reply #5 on: April 17, 2013, 07:33:32 AM »
Well done NZ... I mean, apart from making us look ridiculous...
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« Reply #6 on: April 17, 2013, 08:58:28 AM »
Great atmosphere; a song after it passed and some stonking good speeches.
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« Reply #7 on: April 17, 2013, 10:16:02 AM »
They are copying Rob Portman!
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« Reply #8 on: April 17, 2013, 07:34:25 PM »
Here's the vido of the singing:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2013/04/17/new_zealand_gay_marriage_law_passes_supporters_sing_maori_love_song_in_parliament.html
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« Reply #9 on: April 17, 2013, 07:35:34 PM »
Quote from: DC Al Fine on April 17, 2013, 07:01:28 AM
Can't say I'm surprised. Isn't New Zealand the most socially liberal country in the Anglosphere?

I think Canada is more socially liberal, but New Zealand is comparable and probably was more socially liberal historically. Canada > New Zealand > UK > Australia > US.
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« Reply #10 on: April 17, 2013, 09:56:00 PM »
Well, NZ was the first country in the world to elect a transgender person to parliament.
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« Reply #11 on: April 17, 2013, 11:57:35 PM »
« Edited: April 18, 2013, 12:15:30 AM by Nichlemn »
New Zealand also has legalised prostitution, a drinking age of 18 and an age of consent of 16. Economic policies are also pretty libertarian, with a comparatively simple tax system, almost no tariffs and in general few silly regulations (except surrounding land use).

I'd say New Zealand has the best policy bundle in the world. The main downsides are the relatively low wages for the cost of living (especially housing).
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« Reply #12 on: April 18, 2013, 12:02:44 AM »
Quote from: Nichlemn on April 17, 2013, 11:57:35 PM
New Zealand also has legalised prostitution, a drinking age of 18 and an age of consent of 16.

Canada has a age of consent of 16, a drinking age of 18/19 (depends of the province) and prostitution is illegal, for now (but the law banning was stuck down by a low level court, government appealed, and it will go like that until it reaches the Supreme Court, which is very socially liberal, so, we never know...)
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« Reply #13 on: April 18, 2013, 12:20:38 AM »
Kudos to NZ!

And shame on France for again falling behind... Now get that f**king bill passed, for f**k's sake!
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« Reply #14 on: April 18, 2013, 02:00:45 AM »
16 is the the most common age of consent in the US. It's not a particularly radical thing.
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« Reply #15 on: April 18, 2013, 12:55:14 PM »
Labour MPs against were Damien O'Connor (West Coast-Tasman), Ross Robertson (Manukau East), Rino Tirikatene (Te Tai Tonga) and S'ua William Sio (Māngere).
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« Reply #16 on: April 23, 2013, 11:52:43 PM »
I've been away for a few days so haven't had a chance to comment until now.

I'm so proud of New Zealand for the way this has been handled.There were some brilliant speeches from both sides of the house...especially from Maurice Williamson who used his sense of humour to impart a powerful message of tolerance.

There have been outcries from the usual religious sources but by and large the general public has merely shrugged and moved on...as Williamson said "the sun did rise the next day"

Let's hope our ANZAC cousins follow soon.
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« Reply #17 on: April 24, 2013, 12:18:13 AM »
Quote from: Antarctic on April 23, 2013, 11:52:43 PM
I've been away for a few days so haven't had a chance to comment until now.

I'm so proud of New Zealand for the way this has been handled.There were some brilliant speeches from both sides of the house...especially from Maurice Williamson who used his sense of humour to impart a powerful message of tolerance.

There have been outcries from the usual religious sources but by and large the general public has merely shrugged and moved on...as Williamson said "the sun did rise the next day"

Let's hope our ANZAC cousins follow soon.

NZ is such a better place than France...
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