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nickshepDEM
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« on: February 19, 2005, 01:15:24 PM »
« edited: February 19, 2005, 03:13:20 PM by nickshepDEM »

The current projected delegate totals are as follows:
Fmr. Mayor Rudy Giuliani (NY) - 529 delegates
US Sen. Bill Frist, M.D. (TN) - 500 delegates
US Sen. John McCain (AZ) - 400 delegates
US Sen. Rick Santorum (PA) - 283 delegates   

According to sources close to Gov. Bill Owens of Colorado, he is not interested in running for President in 2008. As a result, he has been removed from my projection. All of his delegates except Nebraska's nine delegates were given to Sen. John McCain of Arizona. McCain also lost Kansas to Sen. Rick Santorum of Pennsylvania, as well as Oklahoma and Texas to Sen. Bill Frist, M.D., of Tennessee



Purple = Rudy Giuliani
Pink = John McCain
Red = Rick Santorum
Blue = Bill Frist

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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #1 on: February 19, 2005, 02:12:28 PM »

New Hampshire for Santorum? No, that won't happen.

Thats what I was thinking.  Plus, McCain wins Idaho???
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #2 on: February 19, 2005, 02:13:14 PM »

Can you guys see the image?  Im at work and it is comming up as a red "x".
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #3 on: February 19, 2005, 02:24:27 PM »


I agree or at least finish a strong second.

Phil, can you see the image or is it a red "X"?
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #4 on: February 19, 2005, 03:11:07 PM »

No, its not a joke.  Well, at least not to the guy who made the website and map's.  I dont know what the hell he is basing his reults off of. Maybe he is rolling a die and selecting the states for each candidate that way. LOL.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #5 on: February 19, 2005, 03:17:27 PM »

Whoever he is, he's an idiot. Roughly everything about his projection is wrong. Actually I'm not sure how you would make it worse... maybe project Don King to win or something.

LOL, I agree.

I do think he has some parts of it right.  I agree with most of the Giuliani states and a couple of the Frist and Santorum states, but other than that he is way off.  Why would John McCain win Idaho and Wyoming?
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #6 on: February 19, 2005, 06:45:21 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2005, 06:47:53 PM by nickshepDEM »


Do you really think someone like Bayh, Warner or Richardson would get the nomination?

Yes (see 1992), there were plenty of candidates that the base could have ran to, Tsongas, Brown, Harkin, but they chose the moderate southern governor.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #7 on: February 19, 2005, 06:50:06 PM »

Clinton was not as conservative as Bayh or Warner. Your party keeps moving to the left.

Bayh and Warner are to the left of Bill Clinton on the political spectrum.  Why do you keep calling them conservative?  Because one  opposes still birth abortions and the other was endorsed by the NRA?
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #8 on: February 19, 2005, 06:59:23 PM »

I don't think you're familiar with Warner's run for Governor (the only victorious race he's ever run btw). He ran hard right on fiscal issues... practically libertarian. Once in office he shafted the teacher's union AND raised taxes, pissing off both sides. He's socially moderate because he has no choice in VA.

In the primary, he would be brutalized over and over and over and over again for the positions he took in Virginia. He is to Clinton's right on basically every issue... no chance in hell. Oh and without the charisma.

Bayh is just a robot, not especially moderate or liberal.

The tax hike must have really been needed if it got through the Virignia state legislature.   As a bonus to Warner "the Governor" magazine recently declared Virginia the most fiscally responsible state in the nation. 
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #9 on: February 19, 2005, 09:11:13 PM »
« Edited: February 19, 2005, 09:13:13 PM by nickshepDEM »

The most likely Democratic nominee is Bill Richardson.


To much baggage.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #10 on: February 20, 2005, 12:00:18 AM »


What, the China stuff at Los Alamos?

Yeah, I think that would be killer.  What are your thoughts on that stuff being replayed over and over in a presidential election?
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
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Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #11 on: February 20, 2005, 12:17:29 AM »

Bob, here is a link to an article that describes the scandal a little bit.  I dont know a whole lot about it, but from what I do know it, not good at all. 

http://slate.msn.com/id/84864/

Someone correct me if Im wrong.  While Bill Richardson was Sec. of Energy under the Clinton adminstration, a Los Alamos nuclear lab leaked secrets to the Chinese that eventually led to their building of new nuclear weapons and Bill Richardson did pretty much nothing about it before and after.
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nickshepDEM
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 6,909


Political Matrix
E: -0.52, S: 3.65

« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2005, 12:29:00 AM »

You know its bad when not only were Republicans in congress calling for him to resign, but Democratic partisan hacks like Robert Byrd were tearing him apart too for his #%#$ up.
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