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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2005, 02:36:36 am »

IIRC, Gore carried upstate 49-44 in 2000, but I don't know how well Kerry did there overall. Does anyone have those numbers?
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2005, 02:42:31 am »

IIRC, Gore carried upstate 49-44 in 2000, but I don't know how well Kerry did there overall. Does anyone have those numbers?

I think it was about even  LI was quite a bit closer than it was in 2000, but that had a lot to do with the 9/11 rollover effect than anything else.  Upstate is a mix depending on the areas, rural areas trend Republican while the Buffalo, Rochester, Syracuse & Albany areas all trend dem, Long Island has gone from safe Rep to safe Dem
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2005, 10:16:49 am »

Unfortunately HC wins, but by about 3%
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« Reply #28 on: February 22, 2005, 07:11:55 pm »

Who cares who wins New York...Clinton has the edge, but if Rudy can swing New Jersey or even Connecticut...its worth it.
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« Reply #29 on: February 22, 2005, 07:32:29 pm »

I have to agree with Bullmoose.  We can win without NY, whereas the Dems can't.  If Rudy could pull any of the other states to the GOP--NJ, NH, and ME, it would be a total drubbing of the Dems in a national election.
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« Reply #30 on: February 22, 2005, 10:01:22 pm »

I cant wait to see Giuliani talk about family values.
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« Reply #31 on: February 22, 2005, 10:04:39 pm »

I cant wait to see Giuliani talk about family values.

He won't run so I think you'll be missing out on that chat.  Smiley
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« Reply #32 on: February 22, 2005, 10:06:11 pm »

Netiher wins New York, the state is carved off of the United States by the Hand of God on November 1st, 2008!
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« Reply #33 on: February 22, 2005, 10:09:04 pm »

I cant wait to see Giuliani talk about family values.

Well, he could say that he followed his heart to a genuine marriage, rather than remain in a sham marriage for the sake of political power.

Truthfully, he'd be seriously disadvantaged in that area, which is why I don't see him getting the nomination.  Republican voters are more morality-based than Democratic voters, and demand a higher level of personal conduct from their candidates, at least with respect to what is publicly known.  Clinton would never have survived his scandal had he been a Republican.
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« Reply #34 on: February 22, 2005, 10:20:54 pm »

I cant wait to see Giuliani talk about family values.

Heh, I'd like to see that too.
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« Reply #35 on: February 22, 2005, 10:28:57 pm »

Both Rudy Giuliani (R-NY) and Hillary Clinton (D-NY) have been talked about for the nominations, both are from New York and both have lots of name recognition.

So who wins New York?  Could Giuliani put it in play?  Or is it too Democratic for even the former NYC Mayor to win?  And, as a bonus question, could Giuliani win it against a generic democrat who’s not originally from NY?

P.S. Let's say it's just between Giuliani and Clinton, no major third parties.

P.P.S.  I'll post my take on this after awhile.


Giuliani is nowhere near socially conservative enough to win the GOP Presidential nomination, and for that reason, in this hypothetical race, he would win NY.
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« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2005, 10:33:24 pm »

I cant wait to see Giuliani talk about family values.

He won't run so I think you'll be missing out on that chat.  Smiley

man, we actually agree.
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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2005, 10:34:45 pm »

I cant wait to see Giuliani talk about family values.

He won't run so I think you'll be missing out on that chat.  Smiley

man, we actually agree.

Yeah we actually discussed that before. You wouldn't believe how badly it annoys me when I hear "Rudy for President 2008!"
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« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2005, 10:40:37 pm »

Yes, the religious right are definately just going to sit by and let that happen. And we all know Rudy has the perfect appeal for the Iowa and South Carolina GOP.
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« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2005, 10:48:01 pm »

Yes, the religious right are definately just going to sit by and let that happen. And we all know Rudy has the perfect appeal for the Iowa and South Carolina GOP.

It's not even that. Rudy knows he's not going to go from being a former Mayor to President.
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« Reply #40 on: February 23, 2005, 01:06:05 am »

Yes, the religious right are definately just going to sit by and let that happen. And we all know Rudy has the perfect appeal for the Iowa and South Carolina GOP.

It's not even that. Rudy knows he's not going to go from being a former Mayor to President.

One thing about Rudy regardless if you like him or don't he is very aarrogant and it wouldn't suprise me if he tried to fo from Mayor tio President.  Him being very socially liberal would kill him in the primaries, but I would not be suprised if he ran
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« Reply #41 on: February 23, 2005, 11:43:53 am »

Yes, the religious right are definately just going to sit by and let that happen. And we all know Rudy has the perfect appeal for the Iowa and South Carolina GOP.

It's not even that. Rudy knows he's not going to go from being a former Mayor to President.

One thing about Rudy regardless if you like him or don't he is very aarrogant and it wouldn't suprise me if he tried to fo from Mayor tio President.  Him being very socially liberal would kill him in the primaries, but I would not be suprised if he ran

I'm gonna have to agree. Although I like the man as a politician he is a very arrogant person(I know someone in a high position who used to work with him) and that's why I think he just might make the jump if these useless polls keep showing him winning.
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