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« Reply #25 on: April 23, 2013, 01:52:40 PM »

Well, we are a stupid, spoiled, racist, dumb-**** of a nation...  this surprises anybody? 

Yes, we are a forgiving nation, regardless of the other adjectives you might care to use, my friend.
Forgiving is definitely the word. I think Obama and Bush are both good men who have tried to do what they think is the best for this country, whether they have succeeded or not is a different story.
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« Reply #26 on: April 23, 2013, 01:55:21 PM »

Well, we are a stupid, spoiled, racist, dumb-**** of a nation...  this surprises anybody? 

Yes, we are a forgiving nation, regardless of the other adjectives you might care to use, my friend.
Forgiving is definitely the word. I think Obama and Bush are both good men who have tried to do what they think is the best for this country, whether they have succeeded or not is a different story.

I agree.  Wait until you hear Obama at the Bush Library dedication.  No matter how much he uses the blame Bush game in speeches (without mentioning his name), the President's club is a tight knit group on a personal level and I think they chat more than we might imagine....except that Carter hates Clinton.
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« Reply #27 on: April 23, 2013, 01:56:42 PM »


However:

People are surprised at this?  Ex-Presidents gain popularity in a meteoric way, especially when they're quiet and out of the limelight instead of busting their predecessors balls.
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« Reply #28 on: April 23, 2013, 02:22:18 PM »

25% of Democrats approve? Uh, okay, not sure if I'm buying that one.
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« Reply #29 on: April 23, 2013, 02:31:09 PM »

BREAKING: Margaret Thatcher had a state funeral* last Wednesday





*In all but name
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« Reply #30 on: April 23, 2013, 02:37:47 PM »

Just wait for him to open his mouth again. People seem to forget the endless scandals, nepotism, and general incompetence.

It wasn't just Iraq, Katrina, and the Economic Crash.
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« Reply #31 on: April 23, 2013, 02:40:20 PM »

Just wait for him to open his mouth again. People seem to forget the endless scandals, nepotism, and general incompetence.

It wasn't just Iraq, Katrina, and the Economic Crash.

Bush caused Hurricane Katrina?
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« Reply #32 on: April 23, 2013, 03:16:43 PM »

Well, they are pretty similar in policy.
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« Reply #33 on: April 23, 2013, 03:21:36 PM »

Just wait for him to open his mouth again. People seem to forget the endless scandals, nepotism, and general incompetence.

It wasn't just Iraq, Katrina, and the Economic Crash.

Bush caused Hurricane Katrina?
No, but it was the breaking point after which his approvals never recovered into positive territory.
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« Reply #34 on: April 23, 2013, 03:23:11 PM »

Just wait for him to open his mouth again. People seem to forget the endless scandals, nepotism, and general incompetence.

It wasn't just Iraq, Katrina, and the Economic Crash.

Bush caused Hurricane Katrina?
No, but it was the breaking point after which his approvals never recovered into positive territory.

True.  And most of the problem can be laid squarely at Nagin's feet......but Bush paid for it.
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« Reply #35 on: April 23, 2013, 03:32:23 PM »

Well, we are a stupid, spoiled, racist, dumb-**** of a nation...  this surprises anybody? 

Yes, we are a forgiving nation, regardless of the other adjectives you might care to use, my friend.
Forgiving is definitely the word. I think Obama and Bush are both good men who have tried to do what they think is the best for this country, whether they have succeeded or not is a different story.

I'm kind of on the opposite side of the equation - I don't think either of them should have a 50% popularity rating. Both are egotistical products of the establishment who never ought to have been elected in the first place. (Not that their various opponents were better.) They've both succeeded in selling out the country to Wall Street. I guess as a nation of dumb-****'s, we're getting the government we deserve.
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« Reply #36 on: April 23, 2013, 03:59:06 PM »

Just wait for him to open his mouth again. People seem to forget the endless scandals, nepotism, and general incompetence.

It wasn't just Iraq, Katrina, and the Economic Crash.

Bush caused Hurricane Katrina?
No, but it was the breaking point after which his approvals never recovered into positive territory.

True.  And most of the problem can be laid squarely at Nagin's feet......but Bush paid for it.
I disagree. We like to think that our leaders, local state and federal, control far more than they do. Katrina was nobody's fault. Maybe the long dead real estate developers who built neighborhoods in drained swamps, but really, sometimes Mother Nature just gives you big middle finger. Katrina was on a scale with just a few parallels in American History. The San Francisco Earthquake of 1906. The Great Chicago Fire. Hurricane Galveston. When an entire major city is destroyed by nature, policy makers don't have a lot of options. You can't put Humpty Dumpty back together again. I was impressed to see how good New Orleans looked when I was there over Christmas though. I was expecting far worse.
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« Reply #37 on: April 23, 2013, 04:05:11 PM »

Well, we are a stupid, spoiled, racist, dumb-**** of a nation...  this surprises anybody? 

Yes, we are a forgiving nation, regardless of the other adjectives you might care to use, my friend.
Forgiving is definitely the word. I think Obama and Bush are both good men who have tried to do what they think is the best for this country, whether they have succeeded or not is a different story.

I'm kind of on the opposite side of the equation - I don't think either of them should have a 50% popularity rating. Both are egotistical products of the establishment who never ought to have been elected in the first place. (Not that their various opponents were better.) They've both succeeded in selling out the country to Wall Street. I guess as a nation of dumb-****'s, we're getting the government we deserve.

Amen.
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« Reply #38 on: April 23, 2013, 04:10:12 PM »

Well, we are a stupid, spoiled, racist, dumb-**** of a nation...  this surprises anybody? 

Yes, we are a forgiving nation, regardless of the other adjectives you might care to use, my friend.
Forgiving is definitely the word. I think Obama and Bush are both good men who have tried to do what they think is the best for this country, whether they have succeeded or not is a different story.
I agree.  Wait until you hear Obama at the Bush Library dedication.  No matter how much he uses the blame Bush game in speeches (without mentioning his name), the President's club is a tight knit group on a personal level and I think they chat more than we might imagine....except that Carter hates Clinton.
I've always wondered why everyone else seemed so close. The Bushes, Clinton & Bush 41, Nixon & Ford, Nixon & Clinton. Clinton & Obama. You never hear about Carter and anyone. He's always been the oddball.
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« Reply #39 on: April 23, 2013, 04:49:08 PM »

Just wait for him to open his mouth again. People seem to forget the endless scandals, nepotism, and general incompetence.

It wasn't just Iraq, Katrina, and the Economic Crash.

Bush caused Hurricane Katrina?
Look at who he put in charge of FEMA, and how competently it was managed, especially in the immediate run-up to and aftermath of the hurricane.
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« Reply #40 on: April 23, 2013, 04:59:17 PM »

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« Reply #41 on: April 23, 2013, 05:01:42 PM »

By the end of Obama's term I bet he'll be slightly ahead.
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« Reply #42 on: April 23, 2013, 05:08:06 PM »

It's irrelevant, but still incredible. Dubya is a consensus bottom-ten president (and many place him bottom-five). Obama will be placed somewhere in the middle, I assume.
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« Reply #43 on: April 23, 2013, 05:51:39 PM »

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« Reply #44 on: April 23, 2013, 06:17:25 PM »

The American public has an awfully short memory.

If they didn't, George W. Bush never would have won in the first place.
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« Reply #45 on: April 23, 2013, 07:26:32 PM »

Well, we are a stupid, spoiled, racist, dumb-**** of a nation...  this surprises anybody? 

Yes, we are a forgiving nation, regardless of the other adjectives you might care to use, my friend.

Yea... I'll forgive you for what you did but I'm still never going to approve of such a massive string of incompetence-laden ****-ups. 
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« Reply #46 on: April 23, 2013, 07:38:05 PM »

So really, where are all these Democrats that like George Bush now?
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« Reply #47 on: April 23, 2013, 07:42:44 PM »
« Edited: April 23, 2013, 07:46:02 PM by King »

Realistically he was never more unpopular than the 46% who supported John McCain, 40% at worst.  

Most of Bush's popularity was anger amongst his own party, but they were still people who would vote for him against a Democrat.  The same thing happened in 2011 when Obama was soundly beating Romney & Co. in head-to-head match ups despite having approval ratings 10 points under.  It was angry liberals who would never support a Republican to be elected as an alternative.

So really, where are all these Democrats that like George Bush now?

West Virginia, Kentucky, Tennessee, Arkansas, Louisiana....
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« Reply #48 on: April 23, 2013, 07:52:08 PM »

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« Reply #49 on: April 24, 2013, 12:18:02 AM »

I knew that one was coming, King. Tongue

Most of those states are pretty insignificant though (at least in terms of population).
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