Hillary Clinton/Gavin Newsom vs Michelle Bachmann/Brian Sandoval

[NewYorkExpress]

How much does Clinton win by?

[H.E. VOLODYMYR ZELENKSYY]

Clinton wins all of the things.

[DS0816]

This thread assumes Michele Bachmann could get a running mate.

[King]

I'd vote for Hillary over Bachmann, but Gavin Newsom is too slimy to earn my vote in any other situation.

[free my dawg]

500-38.

[Maxwell]

Not even Sandoval could turn this ish around.

[Liberalrocks]

500-38.

This although Bachmann may win Mississippi by about a 1000 or so votes. Clinton wins over 60% of the national popular vote and wins at least 60% in the Kerry states 0f 04'.

[PolitiJunkie]

Being VERY generous to Bachmann...

Safe D (332 EV): Vermont, New York, Washington, California, Illinois, Connecticut, Massachusetts, Rhode Island, Hawaii, DC, Maryland, Delaware, Minnesota, Michigan, Oregon, New Mexico, Maine, New Hampshire, Wisconsin, Iowa, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Ohio, Virginia, Colorado, Florida, New Jersey

Likely D (64 EV): Montana, Arkansas, Missouri, Louisiana, North Carolina, Arizona, Indiana

Lean D (88 EV): Kentucky, Alaska, Tennessee, North Dakota, Texas, South Carolina, Georgia

Toss-Up (19 EV): West Virginia, South Dakota, Nebraska, Kansas

Lean R (15 EV): Alabama, Mississippi

Likely R (20 EV): Oklahoma, Idaho, Utah, Wyoming

Safe R (0 EV): None

Note that all the "Safe D" states are the states Obama won in 2012.

[Mister Mets]

It would be an ass-kicking. I'm using the Missouri Senate race as a model, but assuming a cycle that would otherwise be slightly more Republican leaning.

So if McCaskill won by 15 points in a year that favored Democrats, Hillary Clinton would beat Michelle Bachmann by about 10 points half the time. In Missouri.

Likely Republican...(19 electoral votes)
Utah. Wyoming. Oklahoma. Idaho. That only really conservative district in Nebraska.

Leaning Republican...(27 electoral votes)
West Virginia. Kentucky, Alabama, Most of Nebraska.

Toss-Up (Republican Advantage) (17 electoral votes)
Kansas. Tennessee.

Toss-Up (Democratic Advantage) (18 electoral votes)
North Dakota. South Dakota. Arkansas. Louisiana.

That Republican ticket would result in a strong possibility of a center-right independent bid, which would further shake things up.

Hillary Clinton might spend the majority of her time campaigning for down-ticket races.

[TDAS04]

Hillary wins in a landslide.  People will vote on the candidates for President, and their running mates won't matter much.

[NVGonzalez]

Sandoval wouldn't ruin his political career like this.

[TNF]

Bachmann would have a hard time winning Utah.

[morgieb]

Bachmann probably only wins the most conservative states. Hillary gets around 500 EV's.

[Stranger in a strange land]

Bachmann would probably be able to win MS, AL, OK, and maybe UT, but Clinton would have a good chance of sweeping.

[Indy Texas]

Not even Sandoval could turn this ish around.

Ever notice how after being fawned over during the 2010 elections, Brian Sandoval and Susana Martinez are more or less ignored by their party and by everyone else? They were supposed to put a less pale face on the Tea Party in the same way Marco Rubio was (though he's pretty pale himself) and instead they've governed as moderates who largely avoid the national spotlight (or are avoided by the national spotlight).

[emcee0]

Michelle would probably still sweep every county in Oklahoma.. ahaha

[emcee0]

Imagine Hillary shadowing Reagan with a 49 state win.. Christmas 2016 they ask the President- elect what she would like for Christmas and her response is.. Well.. Oklahoma would have been nice

[tmthforu94]

Not even Sandoval could turn this ish around.

Ever notice how after being fawned over during the 2010 elections, Brian Sandoval and Susana Martinez are more or less ignored by their party and by everyone else? They were supposed to put a less pale face on the Tea Party in the same way Marco Rubio was (though he's pretty pale himself) and instead they've governed as moderates who largely avoid the national spotlight (or are avoided by the national spotlight).

I'm certainly not ignoring Susana, and I know Hagrid and A-Bob aren't either! She has a pretty strong base for 2016 on the forum.