How long has it been since you last masturbated?

[Marokai Backbeat]

Wow, this is really high rhetoric, congratulations.

The discussion is about masturbation which involves wrapping your favored hand around your penis and sliding it up and down in an increasingly rapid motion until you achieve orgasm.

Not a lot of "high rhetoric" needed.

You're basically trolling him at this point.

Seriously, this is stupid.

[Ban my account ffs!]

Tony and I are both VEPs... Very Emotional Persons...

If he's going to say I'm more harmful than a holocaust denier and then say I'm too stupid to understand the nuances of the emotional baggage he tacks onto all discussions of sex... then he should expect to hear back.

Something about hot kitchens and not being able to stand the heat.

[Kitteh]

Something about hot kitchens and not being able to stand the heat.

I first read that as "hot kittens", and thought "oh, didn't know you were into that".

[King]

Sock it to me?

[Lief 🗽]

Sock it to me?

TV in the 1960s was weird...

[afleitch]

OK, I was trying to make a broader point and elevate the level of debate a bit, but it doesn't seem to be working...

I couldn’t disagree more. I’ve volunteered in LGBT sexual health clinics as a facilitator. Open, frank and sometimes ‘TMI’ talks about sexual health are vitally important to ensure that men are comfortable with their bodies, their sex life and the relationship with their doctor. If a man comes in you can’t assume he’s ‘having sex’ because you need to work out what he means. You can’t use the term ‘gay’ as many men who have sex with men don’t relate to it. You can’t even say ‘anal’ because some don’t know what that means or consider anal sex just to be ‘sex’ (i.e, it shouldn’t be differentiated from vaginal sex, because it’s an equivalent) So you end up having to get them to speak to the specialist by being frank and crude. I would say at least 60-70% of the men who did show up because they had concerns only did so because they spoke about it with a friend first. Open, honest, crude and cheeky discussion about sex is very important for sexual health.

In my opinion, talking about sex, even masturbation is elevating the debate.

[Holmes]

I don't need to anymore. Cheers.

Dish.

[Paul Kemp]

Some here do it every time they post.

[Holmes]

Some here do it every time they post.

Oooohhhhhhhhhh SNAP.

[opebo]

I don't need to anymore. Cheers.

Did you loose your gonads in an accident at the window factory?

It looks like we do have female members. Two people voted never.

Girls masturbate too.

Some do, but some don't.  A hugely greater percentage of women don't than males, and also those that do generally do it less often.  One can think of libido as generally much greater in the male, but not always so.

[Peter the Lefty]

Wow, I'm in the less than 4 days category, and I always thought of myself as a horny little bastard. 

[Antonio the Sixth]

OK, I was trying to make a broader point and elevate the level of debate a bit, but it doesn't seem to be working...

I couldn’t disagree more. I’ve volunteered in LGBT sexual health clinics as a facilitator. Open, frank and sometimes ‘TMI’ talks about sexual health are vitally important to ensure that men are comfortable with their bodies, their sex life and the relationship with their doctor. If a man comes in you can’t assume he’s ‘having sex’ because you need to work out what he means. You can’t use the term ‘gay’ as many men who have sex with men don’t relate to it. You can’t even say ‘anal’ because some don’t know what that means or consider anal sex just to be ‘sex’ (i.e, it shouldn’t be differentiated from vaginal sex, because it’s an equivalent) So you end up having to get them to speak to the specialist by being frank and crude. I would say at least 60-70% of the men who did show up because they had concerns only did so because they spoke about it with a friend first. Open, honest, crude and cheeky discussion about sex is very important for sexual health.

In my opinion, talking about sex, even masturbation is elevating the debate.

My point certainly wasn't that sex shouldn't be discussed in a freakin' sexual health clinic.

[Ban my account ffs!]

OK, I was trying to make a broader point and elevate the level of debate a bit, but it doesn't seem to be working...

I couldn’t disagree more. I’ve volunteered in LGBT sexual health clinics as a facilitator. Open, frank and sometimes ‘TMI’ talks about sexual health are vitally important to ensure that men are comfortable with their bodies, their sex life and the relationship with their doctor. If a man comes in you can’t assume he’s ‘having sex’ because you need to work out what he means. You can’t use the term ‘gay’ as many men who have sex with men don’t relate to it. You can’t even say ‘anal’ because some don’t know what that means or consider anal sex just to be ‘sex’ (i.e, it shouldn’t be differentiated from vaginal sex, because it’s an equivalent) So you end up having to get them to speak to the specialist by being frank and crude. I would say at least 60-70% of the men who did show up because they had concerns only did so because they spoke about it with a friend first. Open, honest, crude and cheeky discussion about sex is very important for sexual health.

In my opinion, talking about sex, even masturbation is elevating the debate.

My point certainly wasn't that sex shouldn't be discussed in a freakin' sexual health clinic.

And you missed the point of Afleitch's post.

Pay particular attention to the part that says "at least 60-70% of the men who did show up because they had concerns only did so because they spoke about it with a friend first.  Open, honest, crude and cheeky discussion about sex is very important for sexual health."

But keep on with your "sexual voyeurism" prudiness.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I have never said anything about discussing about sex in private conversations with friends either. There is a pretty clear difference between that and what this thread does. It's impressive that nobody seems to get it. But whatever.

[MaxQue]

I have never said anything about discussing about sex in private conversations with friends either. There is a pretty clear difference between that and what this thread does. It's impressive that nobody seems to get it. But whatever.

The point was than people are afraid of talking of sex with the doctor, because they don't know him.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I have never said anything about discussing about sex in private conversations with friends either. There is a pretty clear difference between that and what this thread does. It's impressive that nobody seems to get it. But whatever.

The point was than people are afraid of talking of sex with the doctor, because they don't know him.

But again this is not the point I was trying to make. Certainly, it is important to have a population perfectly aware of the various aspects of sexuality and how they relate to health, emotion and human relationships, and not ashamed of discussing these issues when they are relevant. What in the world does this have to do with making a gazillion threads about masturbation in a political forum? Or with the objectifying commercials you find on every billboard? Or with the trashy TV shows that clutter airwaves?

[King]

There is a pretty clear difference between that and what this thread does.

I'm glad I don't spend any time worrying about "what threads do."  It opens up more room in my schedule for masturbating.

[Peter the Lefty]

There is a pretty clear difference between that and what this thread does.

I'm glad I don't spend any time worrying about "what threads do."  It opens up more room in my schedule for masturbating.

One for the Atlas history books right there.

[MaxQue]

I have never said anything about discussing about sex in private conversations with friends either. There is a pretty clear difference between that and what this thread does. It's impressive that nobody seems to get it. But whatever.

The point was than people are afraid of talking of sex with the doctor, because they don't know him.

But again this is not the point I was trying to make. Certainly, it is important to have a population perfectly aware of the various aspects of sexuality and how they relate to health, emotion and human relationships, and not ashamed of discussing these issues when they are relevant. What in the world does this have to do with making a gazillion threads about masturbation in a political forum? Or with the objectifying commercials you find on every billboard? Or with the trashy TV shows that clutter airwaves?

Oh, I agree with you, don't doubt that, but I think talking too mouch of sexuality is less of a problem than the reverse problem (sex being an unbreakable taboo).

[Antonio the Sixth]

I have never said anything about discussing about sex in private conversations with friends either. There is a pretty clear difference between that and what this thread does. It's impressive that nobody seems to get it. But whatever.

The point was than people are afraid of talking of sex with the doctor, because they don't know him.

But again this is not the point I was trying to make. Certainly, it is important to have a population perfectly aware of the various aspects of sexuality and how they relate to health, emotion and human relationships, and not ashamed of discussing these issues when they are relevant. What in the world does this have to do with making a gazillion threads about masturbation in a political forum? Or with the objectifying commercials you find on every billboard? Or with the trashy TV shows that clutter airwaves?

Oh, I agree with you, don't doubt that, but I think talking too mouch of sexuality is less of a problem than the reverse problem (sex being an unbreakable taboo).

There's nobody (or almost nobody) on this forum who's arguing for the latter, though... It seems that people like Lief and Snowguy see any slightly critical approach toward the omnipresence of sex in society as an intolerable sign of outdated puritanism...

[windjammer]

God bless Tony. Such a good guy.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I don't need to anymore. Cheers.

I'm surprised a young brown stallion like Bill gets that riled up over an elderly gay who has been put out to pasture.  Who knew?

[RI]

Remember your Foucault, children: breaking taboos only reinforces taboos.

[Antonio the Sixth]

Remember your Foucault, children: breaking taboos only reinforces taboos.

I'm not a huge fan of Foucault in general, but he's absolutely right about this.

[Joe Biden 2020]

Tony, you're starting to sound like me on the Update thread, you're fighting a losing battle.  That's not good, friend.

Anyway, its approaching 72 hours for me.