This Whole Affair STINKS -- the new vote is REALLY invalid

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

What position does Lewis Trondheim have in the Atlas Forume??? Does he even have an official position? Because if he does not, no offense to you Lewis, he had no business in calling for a vote on a ratification of the constition.

If I remember correctly, one of the first things Lewis acknowledged was that he was not an official office holder, but, that nobody else was going to get the ball rolling, he was going to do it. And no objection from you at the time. In fact without the actions of many non-official office holders we would be way behind where we are even now.

1) Did you vote in the original thread?

2) Did totally new information-- not new interpretation-- come to light about the vote?

If you answered yes to 1) and no to 2) you must be accountable for your vote & your endorsement of that process.

It was not even a REAL vote. It was some person who did not even hold office position - once again, no offense to you Lewis. Just because, I "voted" in the non-official voting thread, does not mean anything.

1) Is your SN name Beet?

If you answered yes to 1) then you are accountable to yourself.

What exactly is a REAL vote?  There is no single, official way to ratify  a constitution in the absence of any existing constitution.  Lewis got the ball rolling on ratification because no one else was going to.  Would you rather just have the president decree what the Constitution is?  He's the only current elected office holder (well, and the VP).

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

What position does Lewis Trondheim have in the Atlas Forume??? Does he even have an official position? Because if he does not, no offense to you Lewis, he had no business in calling for a vote on a ratification of the constition.

If I remember correctly, one of the first things Lewis acknowledged was that he was not an official office holder, but, that nobody else was going to get the ball rolling, he was going to do it. And no objection from you at the time. In fact without the actions of many non-official office holders we would be way behind where we are even now.

1) Did you vote in the original thread?

2) Did totally new information-- not new interpretation-- come to light about the vote?

If you answered yes to 1) and no to 2) you must be accountable for your vote & your endorsement of that process.

It was not even a REAL vote.

I will just ignore your snide little remark.

Who said it was not real? Only now are you trying to say it's not real. Did you say it was not real before March 31? And you have quite an incentive for saying so now, seeing as you would like to overturn the result.

It wasn't a real vote because the Progressives took it on themselves to unofficially take the process out of Dan's hands and put it up to a vote without any authority to do so and then put a voting up on ONLY proposals that they wanted to see in the constitution.  The reason I didn't complain earlier is that I hadn't foundout, until Dan said something, that Dan had not approved of this measure.

I agree. We can't have NON-OFFICE holder take things in their own hands.

The existing administration (Nym, Harry, DemRepDan) all endorsed Lewis's threads by voting on both the constitution and the amendments.  Nym and Harry have expressed the view that the matter was resolved.  

DemRepDan, who ran against Nym and Harry in the presidential election, and voted against the administration on the preferential voting amendment, is now trying to overturn that vote because it didn't turn out the way he wanted.  If the administration in anyway did not endorse the vote Lewis started, they should have objected before the vote was finished.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Someone had to do.  The Senate filing deadline was just a few days away, and we had not yet approved maps or a voting procedure.

[Fmr. Gov. NickG]

Also, before we had any sort of Constitution, there is arguable NO ONE with official power to do anything.  Anyone can call for a vote, and the only thing that makes it binding or not is the support of the public.  Only once we have a constitution do any of the offices have actual power.