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« Reply #1100 on: June 16, 2015, 12:11:46 PM »

NDP could win Sarnia-Lambton and Bay of Quinte.
The Liberals could also win Bay of Quinte.
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« Reply #1101 on: June 16, 2015, 01:19:21 PM »


Are there are any seats held by the Ontario PCs that the federal Tories could really lose - besides Nipissing perhaps?

Perhaps Chatham-Kent-Essex? Sarnia-Lambton?
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« Reply #1102 on: June 16, 2015, 01:58:48 PM »


Are there are any seats held by the Ontario PCs that the federal Tories could really lose - besides Nipissing perhaps?

Perhaps Chatham-Kent-Essex? Sarnia-Lambton?

Most of SWON I'd say... Perth-Wellington, Lambton-Kent-Middlesex, Oxford, Chatham-Kent-Essex and Elgin-Middlesex-London, Essex, Brantford-Brant.
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« Reply #1103 on: June 16, 2015, 02:27:58 PM »

Essex and Brantford-Brant aren't PC though.
On top of what others have said I would add Huron-Bruce.
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« Reply #1104 on: June 16, 2015, 06:00:57 PM »

Benoit retiring.
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« Reply #1105 on: June 16, 2015, 06:21:11 PM »

Cool.

Nanos still providing us with the most useless polling data known to man.
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« Reply #1106 on: June 16, 2015, 07:09:53 PM »


No surprise, he lost the game of musical chairs. Good riddance, anyways.
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« Reply #1107 on: June 16, 2015, 09:53:32 PM »

Angus Reid's Ontario numbers seem more apt to me.  As nice as it is to think that ridings like Perth-Wellington, Oxford, Chatham-Kent-Essex and Elgin-Middlesex-London are "leaning NDP" - I don't think the Tories are under 30% in Ontario.

Are there are any seats held by the Ontario PCs that the federal Tories could really lose - besides Nipissing perhaps?

Of those four, CKE's likeliest--after all, provincially, the ONDP got 31.1% vs Rick Nicholls' 37.8% last year...
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« Reply #1108 on: June 16, 2015, 09:55:23 PM »

Essex and Brantford-Brant aren't PC though.

Don't confuse Essex with CKE.
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« Reply #1109 on: June 16, 2015, 10:43:42 PM »

You guys really think the federal Tories are likely to do worse than Hudak in southwestern Ontario?  I think he came close to hitting the floor in the province.
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« Reply #1110 on: June 17, 2015, 07:02:54 AM »

You guys really think the federal Tories are likely to do worse than Hudak in southwestern Ontario?  I think he came close to hitting the floor in the province.

Depends on how the chips may fall.  After all, province-wide, the NDP gaining seats like Sarnia-Lambton and CKE could be counteracted by the Cons holding more of its 416 fortress, thanks to Grit collapse and weak NDP infrastructure...
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« Reply #1111 on: June 17, 2015, 08:04:04 AM »

Essex and Brantford-Brant aren't PC though.

Don't confuse Essex with CKE.
For the record, I was responding to lil Tommy's suggestion of Essex:


Most of SWON I'd say... Perth-Wellington, Lambton-Kent-Middlesex, Oxford, Chatham-Kent-Essex and Elgin-Middlesex-London, Essex, Brantford-Brant.


If the NDP surges, it will be stronger in SWON than in the 905. So we could see PC seats fall while OLP seats stay CPC in places like Halton, Newmarket.

Imagine how badly Hudak would have done if the OLP was actually popular...
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« Reply #1112 on: June 17, 2015, 08:31:34 AM »

You guys really think the federal Tories are likely to do worse than Hudak in southwestern Ontario?  I think he came close to hitting the floor in the province.

Sarnia-Lambton has been a bellwether since 1963, so it is definitely an NDP target.
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« Reply #1113 on: June 17, 2015, 07:29:21 PM »

Liberal candidate parts Facebook joke about domestic violence: http://ipolitics.ca/2015/06/17/liberal-candidate-deletes-domestic-abuse-joke-after-conservatives-attack/
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« Reply #1114 on: June 17, 2015, 07:44:34 PM »

Apparently Trudeau wants to abolish FPTP, is that getting any play there?
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« Reply #1115 on: June 17, 2015, 08:04:06 PM »

Apparently Trudeau wants to abolish FPTP, is that getting any play there?
So does Mulcair and May. But Liberal plan is IRV and NDP plan MMP. Trudeau actually voted against MMP earlier this year.
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« Reply #1116 on: June 17, 2015, 09:34:13 PM »

Apparently Trudeau wants to abolish FPTP, is that getting any play there?
So does Mulcair and May. But Liberal plan is IRV and NDP plan MMP. Trudeau actually voted against MMP earlier this year.

Ugh. IRV is worse than FPTP.
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« Reply #1117 on: June 17, 2015, 09:36:47 PM »

Green party opened their Quebec office. It hopes to elect MPs on the opposition to transportation of oil by rail cars and pipeline. Claims to be the only national party to fight pipelines.

I think the Bloc will try to use the Energy East proposed pipeline against the NDP if they support it. It must not be very popular with the progressives, pro-environment. The PQ is against it and I imagine Québec solidaire the same.  
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« Reply #1118 on: June 17, 2015, 10:16:58 PM »

Not ideal but I find it much better than FPTP since there is no incentive to vote against your first option and all votes have the option to have their vote "count" (by that I mean finding its way into the top two candidates). How is it worse?
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« Reply #1119 on: June 17, 2015, 10:22:12 PM »

Apparently Trudeau wants to abolish FPTP, is that getting any play there?
So does Mulcair and May. But Liberal plan is IRV and NDP plan MMP. Trudeau actually voted against MMP earlier this year.

Ugh. IRV is worse than FPTP.

Uh, the only thing worse than FPTP is block voting.
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« Reply #1120 on: June 18, 2015, 12:12:33 AM »

Green party opened their Quebec office. It hopes to elect MPs on the opposition to transportation of oil by rail cars and pipeline. Claims to be the only national party to fight pipelines.

I think the Bloc will try to use the Energy East proposed pipeline against the NDP if they support it. It must not be very popular with the progressives, pro-environment. The PQ is against it and I imagine Québec solidaire the same.  

The PQ was for it when they were in power, now it's like if the NDP says black they have to say white...Peladeau flubbed his lines yesterday saying that it was "simplistic" to oppose Energy East then backtracked when told he had contradicted Duceppe and accidentally agreed with the Liberals and NDP
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« Reply #1121 on: June 18, 2015, 08:48:49 AM »

Latest Forum has a clear NDP lead
NDP 34%
LPC 28%
CPC 26%

http://poll.forumresearch.com/post/299/conservatives-liberals-tied-for-second/
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« Reply #1122 on: June 18, 2015, 09:07:48 AM »
« Edited: June 18, 2015, 09:31:24 AM by Tetro Kornbluth »


lol

EDIT: If that is the actual result than the CPC are back to where REFFOOOOOOORM the Canadian Alliance under Stockwell Day were in 2000.
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« Reply #1123 on: June 18, 2015, 09:39:09 AM »

Well I think we can now be pretty sure that This Government Is In Trouble. Which is not the same as saying that it is doomed, alas.
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« Reply #1124 on: June 18, 2015, 10:00:49 AM »

lol Quebec is the NDP's worst region in that poll, at 31%. Yes, that means they are over 31% in every other region.
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