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« on: February 23, 2005, 12:56:41 am »

This poll is amoung residents of New York State

Approve 69%
Disapprove 21%


Republicans:
Approve 49%
Disapprove 40%

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/22/nyregion/22hillary.html?ex=1266728400&en=752c6fd85e9c3cda&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland
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« Reply #1 on: February 23, 2005, 01:39:24 am »

Hillary has brainwashed the New York Republican Party.  Don't ask me how, but it's happened.

Thank goodness I'm out of state, and thus cannot be affected by her evil mind-control ray.

And I never go back into NY without first donning my special tin foil Hillary-blocking hat. (tm)
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« Reply #2 on: February 23, 2005, 06:19:12 am »

Hillary has brainwashed the New York Republican Party. Don't ask me how, but it's happened.

Thank goodness I'm out of state, and thus cannot be affected by her evil mind-control ray.

And I never go back into NY without first donning my special tin foil Hillary-blocking hat. (tm)

I suspect the average New York State Republican is not your standard Theocrat prevalent in most of the country.

Congratulations to jfern on the first use of the term 'meme' I've seen on the forum!
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« Reply #3 on: February 23, 2005, 10:50:35 am »

Honestly, I think this poll is wrong.  Plus, New York in no way represents the rest of the country.  Take a similar poll in Ohio, and Hillary will be polling in the 30's or 40's Smiley
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« Reply #4 on: February 23, 2005, 02:29:06 pm »

Honestly, I think this poll is wrong. Plus, New York in no way represents the rest of the country. Take a similar poll in Ohio, and Hillary will be polling in the 30's or 40's Smiley

I think it's wrong, too.
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« Reply #5 on: February 24, 2005, 01:43:02 am »

Honestly, I think this poll is wrong.  Plus, New York in no way represents the rest of the country.  Take a similar poll in Ohio, and Hillary will be polling in the 30's or 40's Smiley

This poll probably isn't wrong.  Its the erd consecutive poll within the last few weeks showing her approval well into the 60's.  If this was a stand alone poll I may questuin it a bit, but when 3 different polling organizations in polls back to back to back have her approval well into the 60's I think its pretty accurate
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« Reply #6 on: February 24, 2005, 06:29:44 pm »

I'm sorry, but is this a NYT poll?  Since when do we trust NYT polls?
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« Reply #7 on: February 24, 2005, 06:30:19 pm »

I'm sorry, but is this a NYT poll?  Since when do we trust NYT polls?
When they're right Smiley.  A broken clock is correct two times a day
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« Reply #8 on: February 24, 2005, 06:53:48 pm »

Okay, it's settled.  Hillary isn't a polarizing figure--in New York.  However, Hillary has to win more states than just NY to win  the White House.  She's definitely polarizing in the Red states, and there are more of them than there are Blu states.
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« Reply #9 on: February 24, 2005, 06:54:25 pm »

I'm sorry, but is this a NYT poll?  Since when do we trust NYT polls?
When they're right Smiley.  A broken clock is correct two times a day

But, unlike a clock, we have no way to check when the NYT is right.
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« Reply #10 on: February 24, 2005, 07:17:21 pm »

ATFFL,

Agreed!
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« Reply #11 on: February 24, 2005, 11:08:11 pm »

I'm sorry, but is this a NYT poll?  Since when do we trust NYT polls?
When they're right Smiley.  A broken clock is correct two times a day

But, unlike a clock, we have no way to check when the NYT is right.

Granted but when several other polls are pretty much in agreement and sugest the same thing..
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« Reply #12 on: February 25, 2005, 02:41:06 am »

Hillary has been laying kind of low, thus her negatives are down, and NY is full of leftists anyway. But once she starting running for President, I mean, the hate would reemerge across the land. The GOP would set all fundraising records with ease.

She's going to position herself pretty well to win the nomination, and frankly there's not a whole lot the Democrats can do to stop her... the problem is, like Kerry, she will come out of the primaries as a factional politician. I think she actually will sell herself better as a potential Commander in Chief, and she's a better pure candidate than Bush-- but her GOP opponent in '08 will be stronger than Bush.

Make no mistake, she could win a general election. But against a good Republican candidate it wouldn't be close. And by good I don't mean a Bill Frist- in a battle of the robots, Hillary wins.
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« Reply #13 on: February 25, 2005, 09:07:04 am »

Hilary isn't polarizing to NY Republicans because they see her up close and unobscured by spin, and have for a while...it's as simple as that.
And no, that's not an argument that she could make a good candidate...quite to the contrary.
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« Reply #14 on: February 25, 2005, 09:09:38 am »

This poll is amoung residents of New York State

Approve 69%
Disapprove 21%


Republicans:
Approve 49%
Disapprove 40%

http://www.nytimes.com/2005/02/22/nyregion/22hillary.html?ex=1266728400&en=752c6fd85e9c3cda&ei=5090&partner=rssuserland

As New York Republicans go, aren't they a pretty moderate bunch? Hillary may appeal to some New York Republicans, but it doesn't follow that she will appeal to "red state" Republicans

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« Reply #15 on: February 26, 2005, 02:05:52 pm »

Her approval in deep Blue NY is irrelevant, its her approval/disapproval nationally that counts, and I think she is still polarizing around the country.
But she is clearly working hard to obscure her liberal predilections in anticipation of 2006 (i.e. critiquing abortion, opposing an exit strategy in Iraq)
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