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« on: June 21, 2013, 12:27:55 PM »

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Pretty cool looking stamp actually.

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« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2013, 12:52:43 PM »

Technically, in 1917, Beersheba was an Ottoman town, not a Palestinian.
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« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2013, 01:07:29 PM »

You've always struck me as easily offended.

"Wahh, don't make fun of libertarians!"
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« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2013, 01:33:17 PM »

You've always struck me as easily offended.

"Wahh, don't make fun of libertarians!"
Clearly.


If you can find 7 of my 19k posts that fit what you describe I'll be shocked.
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« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2013, 01:50:30 PM »

What is Israel doing celebrating a victory of Indian and Australian mercenaries in Egyptian employ, liberating a Palestinian town from Turkish colonial oppression?
I don't get it.
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« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2013, 02:00:31 PM »

What is Israel doing celebrating a victory of Indian and Australian mercenaries in Egyptian employ, liberating a Palestinian town from Turkish colonial oppression?
I don't get it.
Israel isn't celebrating anything.  If you had read the OP, it's an Australian made stamp.
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« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2013, 02:15:23 PM »

You're the one who didn't read it closely: "Joint issue". The same stamp exists in Israel (or sometimes just a different stamp, released the same date, commemorating the same event).
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« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2013, 02:24:49 PM »

touché
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« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2013, 02:31:32 PM »

Of course my reference to these colonial troops pressganged into the British army as 'mercenaries', and to Egypt as if it were the sovereign country it nominally was at the time, are less than entirely serious.
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« Reply #9 on: June 22, 2013, 03:06:55 AM »

Of course my reference to these colonial troops pressganged into the British army as 'mercenaries', and to Egypt as if it were the sovereign country it nominally was at the time, are less than entirely serious.

Australia was a Dominion with its own army.
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« Reply #10 on: June 22, 2013, 03:36:20 AM »

Of course my reference to these colonial troops pressganged into the British army as 'mercenaries', and to Egypt as if it were the sovereign country it nominally was at the time, are less than entirely serious.

Australia and New Zealand were having their own joint corps at the time of this battle. Through, you may have a point by saying than Australia was in war because UK decided to. They were forced by UK, as they weren't totally independant from UK. The overall foreign policy was decided to UK.

After WWI, UK tried to call Imperial Conferences to settle the foreign policy of the Empire. However, it soon emerged than Dominions were having different interests

In 1922, during the Chanak crisis, Britain threatened Turkey than Britain and the Dominion could declare war. Mackenzie King wasn't happy and said than only Canadian Parliament could declare war for Canada.

The 1923 conference split into two camps. Britain, Australia and New Zealand wanted the Empire to have a common foreigh polity, Canada and South Africa were saying than each Dominion should take their own decisions. Finally, Canada and South Africa won.

The 1926 conference, led to the Balfour Declaration, stating than United Kingdom and Dominions are equal and not subordinate to each other and than Governors Generals shouldn't continue to act as the representatives of the UK government in the Dominions.

Finally, in 1931, the Statute of Westminster was passed by UK Parliament, removing to the United Kingdom Parliament the power to make laws for the Dominions (with the exception of the Canadian Constitution, because Canada and provinces never agreed on an amendment procedure), making them fully independant countries. Canada finally got control over its constitution in 1982, after a very complicated process.

Statute of Westminster was applying to Canada, South Africa and Irish Free State automatically (as they were the ones pushing for it) adopted it, Australia adopted in 1942 (but backdated it to 1939), New Zealand in 1947 (with shared power of amending the Constitution until 1986).
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« Reply #11 on: June 22, 2013, 03:45:46 AM »

Of course my reference to these colonial troops pressganged into the British army as 'mercenaries', and to Egypt as if it were the sovereign country it nominally was at the time, are less than entirely serious.

Australia and New Zealand were having their own joint corps at the time of this battle.
Actually, the British Army had a corps consisting of Australian and Kiwi soldiers and lesser-to-middling officers. Australia also had an "army" - really more of a mounted police-cum-army reserve corps - but that (as an organization, not many of its individual members and indeed units) didn't serve in the Middle East.
Though Australia and New Zealand were technically asked about the decision to raise it (which Australian and NZ public opinion demanded at the time, anyways. Just as everywhere in Europe. A huge minority even of Australia's young men, and a much larger of its decision makers, being first-generation immigrants after all.)
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« Reply #12 on: June 22, 2013, 04:18:17 AM »

(which Australian and NZ public opinion demanded at the time, anyways. Just as everywhere in Europe. A huge minority even of Australia's young men, and a much larger of its decision makers, being first-generation immigrants after all.)

Oh, English Canadian opinion was the same. They wanted to fight for the Empire and the King. Which led to trouble here, since the French Canadian opinion was very different, leading to the Conscription Crisis of 1917 (leading to the death of the Conservatives in Quebec and the Francoeur Motion, in which an Quebec MLA proposed than the Quebec should leave Canada) and later, to the Conscription Crisis of 1944.

But true than Australia was particulary pro-Imperial at that time. Quite ironic, as they went quite close to becoming a Republic, unlike New Zealand and Canada (even if Trudeau was not a fan of the monarchy).
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« Reply #13 on: June 22, 2013, 06:09:49 AM »

You're the one who didn't read it closely: "Joint issue". The same stamp exists in Israel (or sometimes just a different stamp, released the same date, commemorating the same event).
Correct. This is the Israeli stamp:

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« Reply #14 on: June 30, 2013, 03:39:47 PM »

I remember watching a video on YouTube of two Palestinian women at a Tesco store in England, where they were loading carts up with Israeli made products and taking products made in Israel from shoppers carts and then demanding the store allow them to take the carts filled with Israeli products for free to be destroyed. When an elderly woman yelled "Piss of too your own country" they proceeded to shove the camera in her face and chant "racist" at her and threatening to prosecute her under hate crime laws. Anyway, many of these Palestinian immigrants have a (mostly) legitimate beef with Israel, but I see no reason why they should interject themselves into the politics or culture of their host country on petty issues like this stamp.
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