Abortion and Stem Cell Research

[barfbag]

Define that life begins with conception.
Contraceptive use is ok.
Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
24 hour waiting period for abortions.
Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.
Strongly support stem cell research.
Embryonic stem cell research is great.
Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.

What do you think of my bill?

[cheesepizza]

If one defines that life begins at conception, wouldn't abortion be considered homicide even before 12 weeks?

[PJ]

NoyesnononoundecidedyesyesnoWTFyes

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

Define that life begins with conception.
No.

Contraceptive use is ok.
Yes.

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
No.

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
No.

24 hour waiting period for abortions.
No.

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.


Strongly support stem cell research.
Yes.

Embryonic stem cell research is great.
Yes.

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
Yes.

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
Neutral.

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
Not sure what that has to do with abortion, but okay.

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.
Yes.

[barfbag]

If one defines that life begins at conception, wouldn't abortion be considered homicide even before 12 weeks?

Yes you could argue that. Where I feel an abortion should be illegal is between 8-12 weeks.

[barfbag]

Define that life begins with conception.
No.

Contraceptive use is ok.
Yes.

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
No.

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
No.

24 hour waiting period for abortions.
No.

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.


Strongly support stem cell research.
Yes.

Embryonic stem cell research is great.
Yes.

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
Yes.

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
Neutral.

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
Not sure what that has to do with abortion, but okay.

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.
Yes.

Paternal tests are necessary to make sure the minor wasn't taken advantage of. In most cases, the father won't be able to provide assistance but if there is a way for the father to provide financial assistance then he should be doing so rather than the government. We should be encouraging fathers' involvement in child raising.

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Define that life begins with conception.
NO

Contraceptive use is ok.
ya think?

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
nope

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
nope

24 hour waiting period for abortions.
no!

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.
die in a fire

Strongly support stem cell research.
yes.

Embryonic stem cell research is great.
YES!!!

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
go case by case

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
it's pretty barbaric... I can get behind this

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
bananaphone

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.
no!, yes, like... they should be wearing knee and elbow pads?  Sure, it could prevent chafing.

What do you think of my bill?
needs work

[muon2]

Define that life begins with conception.

What do you think of my bill?

As a legal question (since it's a bill), have you considered the following? I presume that your bill would define certain human rights to the embyro at conception. Living cells regularly fall off the embryonic cell mass as it grows. Those cells are not themselves a new genetic organism, and I presume that they would not have legal rights in your bill since usually they die off like any other cells our body sheds. Yet, when then come from the embryo as stem cells there is a chance that they develop into a new and separate human that we call an identical twin. Now the question: if legal life begins at conception how does one determine the beginning of legal life for an identical twin without granting legal status to every cell that falls off an embryo?

[DC Al Fine]

Define that life begins with conception.
NO

Why do you hate science?

[windjammer]

Define that life begins with conception: NO. Abortion would be a crime with this law.
Contraceptive use is ok: Yes
Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life: NO
Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
24 hour waiting period for abortions.: NO, parents can be awful.
Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent: NO
Strongly support stem cell research: YES
Embryonic stem cell research is great: YES
Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake: NO
Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education: Promoting abstinence is the best way to encourage sex you know .

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Define that life begins with conception.
NO

Why do you hate science?

Science?!  I don't want Constitutional rights given to zygotes, dumb-dumb.

[barfbag]

Define that life begins with conception.
NO

Why do you hate science?

Science?!  I don't want Constitutional rights given to zygotes, dumb-dumb.

Do you support giving constitutional rights to non-citizens who are terrorists?

[muon2]

Define that life begins with conception.
NO

Why do you hate science?

Science?!  I don't want Constitutional rights given to zygotes, dumb-dumb.

Do you support giving constitutional rights to non-citizens who are terrorists?

Aren't all people endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights?

[Starbucks Union Thug HokeyPuck]

Define that life begins with conception.
NO

Why do you hate science?

Science?!  I don't want Constitutional rights given to zygotes, dumb-dumb.

Do you support giving constitutional rights to non-citizens who are terrorists?

Well... if we KNOW they are terrorists then they are subject to our justice system.  And will certainly have anything resembling freedom stripped from them.  In the end, yes. 

Now I know that it just irks you conservatives to no end that I would grant rights to a terrorist and not extend them to a poor, innocent little "baby"... but I believe that an embryo is still intrinsically tied to the mother, and the attempt to protect the unborn tends to lack practically to an extreme degree.  I suppose abortions never happened when it was illegal, right? 

[RedSLC]

Define that life begins with conception. No.
 
Contraceptive use is ok. Yes.

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life. No. The standard set by Roe v. Wade (abortions okay for first five months) is fine.

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases. No.

24 hour waiting period for abortions. No.

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent. No.

Strongly support stem cell research. Yes.

Embryonic stem cell research is great. Yes.

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses. Depends on fetal viability.

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake. No.

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here. If you mean "no population control policies", then Yes.

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education. Modify to promote birth control and contraceptive usage, and educate about sex-related dangers such as STDs. Promoting abstinence, while meaning well, generally doesn't work.

[Supersonic]

Define that life begins with conception.
No.

Contraceptive use is ok.
Yes.

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
Yes.

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
Yes.

24 hour waiting period for abortions.
No.

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.
Yes.

Strongly support stem cell research.
Yes.

Embryonic stem cell research is great.
Yes.

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
Neutral.

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
Yes.

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
Okay..?

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.
Yes to all three.

[Oldiesfreak1854]

Define that life begins with conception.
Yes

Contraceptive use is ok.
Yes

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
Not sure, although I support banning abortions at all stages except only for hazards to the mother's life.

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
Yes.

24 hour waiting period for abortions.
Yes.

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.
Yes.

Strongly support stem cell research.
Adult stem cell research, yes.  Embryonic stem cell research, no.

Embryonic stem cell research is great.
No, it's unethical, even if the goal is noble.

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
Yes

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
Yes

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
Yes, unless you're John Holdren.

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.
Yes

[Hifly]

I support the entire bill. Freedom Bill.

[Goldwater]

Define that life begins with conception.
No.

Contraceptive use is ok.
Yes.

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
No.

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
No.

24 hour waiting period for abortions.
No.

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.
No.

Strongly support stem cell research.
Yes.

Embryonic stem cell research is great.
Yes.

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
Undecided.

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
Yes.

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
...

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.
Yes.

[Clarko95 📚💰📈]

Define that life begins with conception.

Well, technically a mass of cells is "living", so if you want to go the literal way have at it.

But inanimate zygotes are not human beings, so if that's what you mean(you probs are), then no. If I remember correctly, the fetus becomes viable after about 6 months, or something along those lines.
After 6 months you want to restrict abortion? I'd mostly agree with you.

But before 6 months? Nah bra



And what does Hitler's attempts at population control have to do with abortion...?

[barfbag]

Define that life begins with conception.

Well, technically a mass of cells is "living", so if you want to go the literal way have at it.

But inanimate zygotes are not human beings, so if that's what you mean(you probs are), then no. If I remember correctly, the fetus becomes viable after about 6 months, or something along those lines.
After 6 months you want to restrict abortion? I'd mostly agree with you.

But before 6 months? Nah bra



And what does Hitler's attempts at population control have to do with abortion...?

It fits in with population control which is something we can't let the left achieve.

[barfbag]

A lot of Republicans seem to be in support and a lot of Democrats seem to be against.

[TNF]

Define that life begins with conception.
No. Life begins at birth.

Contraceptive use is ok.
Yes (sane)

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
No.

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
No.

24 hour waiting period for abortions.
No.

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.
No.

Strongly support stem cell research.
Yes.

Embryonic stem cell research is great.
Yes.

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
No.

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
No.

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
wut

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.
Yes.

[7,052,770]

"Conception" isn't a real term anyway; sometimes people use it and mean "fertilization," and sometimes people mean "implantation" when they say it.  Generally just depends on the person's agenda.

Defining life at fertilization is absurd, unless you're willing to accept that 60% of humans are never born.  Remember half of zygotes don't implant and no one is ever aware of them.

I wouldn't agree with defining life at implantation, but it's not as logically horrible.

[barfbag]

Define that life begins with conception.
No. Life begins at birth.

Contraceptive use is ok.
Yes (sane)

Limit abortions to first 12 weeks, incest, rape, damaged fetuses, and hazards to the mother's life.
No.

Parental notification and consent before abortions for minors in the above cases.
No.

24 hour waiting period for abortions.
No.

Mandatory paternal test for pregnant minors to verify income and consent.
No.

Strongly support stem cell research.
Yes.

Embryonic stem cell research is great.
Yes.

Criminal penalties for harming unborn fetuses.
No.

Ban partial birth abortions except when the mother's life is at stake.
No.

Hitler had population control policies by infecting the water and we don't need it here.
wut

Promote abstinence, contraceptives, and safety in sexual education.
Yes.

You may not feel the same way about parental consent if your teenage daughter had an abortion without your consent and as a result ended up with complications and medical conditions. What if it prevented her from having kids at all?