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« on: March 01, 2005, 10:14:55 PM »

LIke him or not, Bush's conversion seems prety genuine.

Everythng Hillary does smacks of tactical advantage.  If she can better position herslf, vis-a-vis her potential Democrat rivals, by running as a born-again, she will.
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« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2005, 07:02:02 PM »

Have you ever strayed form any of the tenets of your faith, and I mean even the smallest of them?

What innocent nation did he invade--Lichtenstein?   Are your referring to Iraq?  God, that's such a tired argument.
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« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2005, 08:06:49 PM »

I dunno.  How would I feel if another nation came in and toppled a murderous dictator who had killed hundreds of thousands of my fellow countrymen whenever the whim overcame him, and who had launched two disastrous wars against neighboring countries that killed many hundreds of thousands of my family, friends, neighbors and countrymen?  How would I feel about a nation that allowed me to vote in a FREE election for the first time ever, for representatives of my own choosing?  I may not be overly excited at the presence of foreign troops in my country, but considering that the foreign troops treated me with more dignity and respect than the army of my former dictator, I think I could put up with it until my nation was back on its feet again--especially since the occupying nation was bankrolling the economic reconstruction of my country.

Let me guess, you've never served your nation in any capacity, have you?
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« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2005, 10:43:15 PM »

Having been in the military myself, I do take it personally, especially when someone insinuates that our military acts in a rapacious way, or that it covets another country.  I'll bet that the vast majority of the soldiers and airmen  serving in Iraq are very proud of the work that they are doing there, and that every last one of them wants nothing more than to see Iraq free and stable so that they can come back home.  We aren't the Evil Empire!
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« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2005, 10:45:23 PM »

The economy sucks?  What planet do you live on?
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« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2005, 10:57:02 PM »

Even in regards to health care, we aren't doing too badly.  The vast majority of Americans are covered with health insurance, and even the uninsured can get catastrophic care at an ED.

Our health care is expensive, but it is the best in the world.  Costs will come down when everyone stops demanding an MRI to confirm whether or not they have constipation.  Our health care is as expensive as we want it to be.  We want the very best, but we don't want to pay for the best.
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« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2005, 11:09:20 PM »

He was also God.  What's your point?
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« Reply #7 on: March 02, 2005, 11:20:45 PM »

Convince a fraction of the people in law school to go into computer engineering, and we might not be outsourcing CE jobs.  

Citizen X can go into any Emergency Room and he/she will be treated.  They may be hounded  about insurance, but they will be treated.  It's the law!  Stop spouting the liberal mantra and read up on the facts.

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« Reply #8 on: March 02, 2005, 11:31:45 PM »

The comment about the MRI was meant to show that people demand specialist when they don't need one, test when none are needed, antibiotics when they suffer from a viral infection rather than a bacterial one, and on, and on, and on.   Doctors are only too willing to oblige--hell they get paid for our hypochondria.  

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« Reply #9 on: March 02, 2005, 11:37:54 PM »

You can personalize the issue all you want.  I feel for you, your father and your family.  I don't know all the particulars of your father's situation, but did adequately insure himself.  Cancer insurance is available, expensive, but available.  I'm heavily insured, ad it is a priority of mine.  I do without many things that most people would take for granted so that my family and I are sufficiently covered for most likelihoods.
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« Reply #10 on: March 02, 2005, 11:55:38 PM »

I agree that everyone should have access to healthcare also.  How we go about it is the sticking point.  

I favor a more patchwork system than do you. Instead of univiersal healthcare ala the Socialist model, I favor Medical savings accounts for individuals, allowing small businesses to pool together to get the same insurance rates as large business, and various other means to achieve 100% coverage.

Once again, I'm very sorry to hear about your father's illness.
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« Reply #11 on: March 02, 2005, 11:57:38 PM »

Hmmm...Perhaps he sufers from bi-polar disorder.


I really think from the comment he was saying that we have pulled ourselves out of recession by raping the environment--a ludicrous assertion.
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