1.01.10 - The Imposition -

[jaichind]

Sounds like a good argument for ditching the web site and just giving everyone full Medicaid coverage using their social security card.

To be fair, despite my schadenfreude for all these Obamacare troubles I agree there is a risk for those of us on the Economic Right.  The Obamacare plan, as much as it is a disaster, does contain certain aspects of it which are based on market forces.  And if the entire Obamacare systems fails it might make the implementation of a true market based solutions more difficult down the line when, according to us disciples of Adam Smith, the invsible hand of the market takes its revenge on Obama and his Obamacare.  I say this despite my utter contempt for the Obama regime.   

[jaichind]

Actually, I don't think that working out some sort of temporary hack (or a series of them) should necessarily be ruled out. The problem is they don't have six months. If they can't fully integrate systems, then they need to put the data into a temporary dump and then work out the integration later.

It is ironic. But the problem would be a lot worse had the website did not have scalability problems.  Because the website also had data integrity issues as well.  So had the the websites worked in taking in the data and passing it onto the insurance companies with these data integrity problems the the disaster would be even worse with people thinking they are one plan when they are on aother or people thinking they have health care insurance when they do not and vice versa.  Of course what would have been ideal would be to not take a political approach to this technical problem and just delay the rollout of the entire system.

[Kitteh]

hay guise this is boring can we go back to thost pls

[t_host1]

My bad, maybe should have made some recognition for all things ”21”  this 21^st O-Day of transformation.

[t_host1]

 Today, apple is about to have a product sales update, yesterday, Obama had his updated sales pitch - Obama used the analogy that his price is compatible as having a phone and cable service; which product will have the most in house and outside sales with product in hand – Apple or Obama?
   AND, which product has a guarantee – a warranty?
      AND, if you do have a problem, where do you go?

 How unusual is it that the pitchman, staff and the producers of a product have no use of or demand for the product that they make, administer and distribute?   

 Currently, even the prepared Obama infomercial at the public rose garden, the customer still had nothing in hand to show what they actually bought.

[Snowstalker Mk. II]

I agree.

[jaichind]

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Government/2013/10/21/Obamacare-phone-number-fail

this is really funny.  The number Obama told people to call if they needed help at yesterday's press conference seems to be a dud as well.

"the Obamcare toll-free phone number was overloaded and immediately crashed. According to Lou Dubois of NBC News, “Call centers now appear overloaded due to volume. ‘Please call back.’”

[t_host1]

 

  Do you think it was a dare, curiosity or a need to know when Obama clicked to his website and clicked the apply button?

[jaichind]

Aetna, third largest health insurer who stands to gain from Obamacare, down 9% from peak in Sept on the Obamacare rollout fiasco in October.  This is at a time where in the post-shutdown crisis market surged to a couple of percentage points beyond the Sept peak.

[jaichind]

This "tech surge" and “the best and the brightest” idea is not a good one.  Think about what you are saying to the current programmers on the project: “You all suck, and we're bringing in more expensive, better people to fix your crap. Please help them succeed."

At my company we tried such swat teams to try to push something out the door fast.  Given my role in the management structure of my company I often fought against it and won most of the time.  But someones I lose and it happends.  Almost always the long term result of doing this is negative.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Yeah, clearly Obama needs to read The Mythical Man-Month.

[Kitteh]

thost is obvs a jaichind sock.

[t_host1]

 
 Which is of more important;
      the product and service that enables a life or a life enabled by a product to service?

 From what I’ve seen of this argument in the house committee thus far this morning is nothing short of a civil war.

 Clearly, ACA and ACA² are about the systematic control of a people for profit and power relying on willful percentage of people to fail to the perils that the dark sided Presence provides - present day economics, to which only his privileged can survive.

[t_host1]

 
 Ya no somthin I just realized; having C-SPAN on while at work is a lot like being at the bar where there is no clock or windows, I'm not sure if that's bad or good.

[jaichind]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/10/24/obamacare_operator_fired_after_taking_call_from_hannity_hannity_to_give_her_a_years_salary.html

An Obamacare operator was fired after she blurted out that no one liked the new health insurance program during a live interview with conservative radio host Sean Hannity, it was reported Thursday.

[badgate]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/10/24/obamacare_operator_fired_after_taking_call_from_hannity_hannity_to_give_her_a_years_salary.html

An Obamacare operator was fired after she blurted out that no one liked the new health insurance program during a live interview with conservative radio host Sean Hannity, it was reported Thursday.

Good. Her job isn't to give television interviews

[jaichind]

http://about.bgov.com/2013-10-24/late-it-cash-surge-foreshadowed-health-law-woes/

Bloomberg Gov research shows that

"looking at the full range of ACA-related contracts for just 10 firms, the BGOV analysis found more than $1 billion worth of contract awards."

So Obamacare fiasco website cost is now over $1 billion and counting. 

[jaichind]

http://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2013/10/24/obamacare_operator_fired_after_taking_call_from_hannity_hannity_to_give_her_a_years_salary.html

An Obamacare operator was fired after she blurted out that no one liked the new health insurance program during a live interview with conservative radio host Sean Hannity, it was reported Thursday.

Good. Her job isn't to give television interviews

Fair enough.  But if we are really into holding people accountable, who will be held accountable for this entire Obamacare roll-out disaster.  Who will be fired for this?

[badgate]

Ideally: Republicans, for refusing HHS's request for more money to prepare for the roll out. The contractors, for turning in an unfinished product (unlikely since these companies do a lot of other work for the gov't). And, somebody at CMSM. I don't think Sebelius should resign or be fired because it's obvious the Republicans would make it hard to get a new HHS Sec confirmed. But if she did resign, Obama should nominate Mitt Romney. He did after all successfully launch RomneyCare. And it would be hilarious to see Republicans react to that.

Ezra Klein put it very astutely today:

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[Kitteh]

jaichind, make your own thread. stop interfering with t_host's genius.

[t_host1]

Ideally: Republicans, for refusing HHS's request for more money to prepare for the roll out. The contractors, for turning in an unfinished product (unlikely since these companies do a lot of other work for the gov't). And, somebody at CMSM. I don't think Sebelius should resign or be fired because it's obvious the Republicans would make it hard to get a new HHS Sec confirmed. But if she did resign, Obama should nominate Mitt Romney. He did after all successfully launch RomneyCare. And it would be hilarious to see Republicans react to that.

Ezra Klein put it very astutely today:

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  The mantra yesterday at the US House hearing of the Obama website creators was, "fix it not nix it" from the Dem's and the Rep's insisting from all the perps' to have what they didn't know filed by "9:00am tomorrow morning". Dem's insisting to the perp's and Rep's that there are no requirements of a 9:00am filing.

 All of you with web building knowledge can appreciate with what we now know of the purpose for the Obama health website that these boards (SMF) we enjoy could of easily handled a procedure of info, qualifying and settlement to an insurance instrument.

Categories' - STATES > COUNTIES with dedicated in sync servers for each board, with trained mods(sales/csr). Imagine a mod with a little more info like IRS and county records - what could be accomplished.

[jaichind]

http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-57609254/medicaid-enrollment-spike-a-threat-to-obamacare-structure/

Looks like all those people that signed up in the state exchanges are mostly Medicaid.  So even in states where state exchanges are working better the death spiral is still on. 

[t_host1]

Is the presence of Obama math taught, assumed or the Big Dream for future progressive politicians?

Obama has killed more jobs for women than Bush yet, Obama and loyalist insist the past conservative years are the problem. Obama has it setup for men, especially the young ones,  to take the fall for women not getting access to his health care. With Obama killing woman’s jobs it must be men building his website, setting the rules for his website - - - we already know he fires women who are honest about his website.

Obama weekly radio speaks says, “Staff Are Working Overtime ‘Every Single Day’ To Fix Health Care Site” yet, with other headlines like; “154,000 Fewer Women Held Jobs in September”, “Female Participation in Labor Force Matches 24-Year Low” making the Obama math sense for the  unemployment rate for women dropping from 6.8 percent to 6.7 percent. Again, the Obama Presence has killed more women working, improving their lives with fewer unemployed, is, the Obama math giving the confidence for his future of your health – if you’re not feeling good you’re not adding things up right.
  With these data points, who and how can anyone make any kind of decision on any of the health insurance info to be accurate at any of the Obama Caring websites? From what I’ve heard in a closing evasive statement is – there will not be any formal policy or even a card given to the indentured servants of Obama Caring. The reason, so that HHS has the continued flexibility of adjusting the rules, claims and eligibility as you live it - the Pelosi doctrine.
 
  http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2013/10/26/obama-staff-are-working-overtime-every-single-day-to-fix-health-care-site/

 http://www.cnsnews.com/news/article/terence-p-jeffrey/154000-fewer-women-held-jobs-september-female-participation-labor

[t_host1]

   Decent Halloween Joke’s;

  I’m going as Chris Matthews having not been to the bathroom for 6 O-Days being full of crap.                               
                 Greg Gutfeld
 
  HHS Sebelius has authorized The White House of Horror’s - First Lady and Barack Hussein Obama to give pre-order Obamacare abortion's with the energy secretary giving life time carbon credits to all participant’s.       
                     

[jaichind]

http://www.bankrate.com/finance/insurance/health-insurance-poll-1113.aspx

Only one in 10 Americans (11% of the uninsured and nine percent of the overall population) say their health insurance situation has improved over the past year, according to a new Bankrate report.

And despite the fact that the health insurance exchanges opened about a month ago and hundreds of millions of dollars are being spent promoting them, almost half (47%) of uninsured Americans still do not know where they can get information on how the Affordable Care Act will affect them.

Thirty-six percent of Americans say their health care costs have increased over the past twelve months. Only five percent say they have decreased.
                   
Thirty-eight percent of the uninsured feel more negative about the Affordable Care Act than they did one year ago (versus 25% who feel more positive).