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« on: September 17, 2013, 07:27:34 AM »

Including Burke 48-42. Approval at 48/49.
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« Reply #1 on: September 17, 2013, 08:27:43 AM »

About where I would expect the race to be, Walker will be favored but he's not an automatic, especially with Burke.
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« Reply #2 on: September 18, 2013, 04:32:16 PM »

Walker has the advantage (incumbency, and a major money advantage), but this race is still pretty competitive, I will hold off on a rating for now as it seems like no one knows the democratic candidates yet. Definitely something to watch though.
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« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2013, 03:27:46 PM »

He has been unpopular before, and his approvals rose some once his opponents quit protesting him. Wait until a year from now to see if there is a strong organized opposition.
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« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2013, 04:56:06 PM »

And then folks turn around and try to say Johnson is doomed Roll Eyes
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« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2013, 05:45:14 PM »

Johnson and Walker aren't bad people they are blunt politicians and like to speak their mind like Inhofe. When u are in troubled times, economy, people like I incrimental change, not sudden change. Thompson was the only one doing that with welfare but was blunt on Medicare in his senate run.
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« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2013, 05:49:14 PM »

Johnson and Walker aren't bad people they are blunt politicians and like to speak their mind like Inhofe. When u are in troubled times, economy, people like I incrimental change, not sudden change. Thompson was the only one doing that with welfare but was blunt on Medicare in his senate run.

Jim Inhofe is merely a foot-solider. He has no mind of his own, though I suppose you can put Ron Johnson in that category.
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« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2013, 06:28:01 PM »

And then folks turn around and try to say Johnson is doomed Roll Eyes

Walker is much more disciplined than Johnson. Feingold is weighing a rematch.

I wouldn't call it totally hopeless but to say he's favored is sheer hackery.
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« Reply #8 on: September 23, 2013, 07:14:32 PM »

And then folks turn around and try to say Johnson is doomed Roll Eyes

Walker is much more disciplined than Johnson. Feingold is weighing a rematch.

Well, Feingold would probably start out ahead of Johnson (but it's unclear if he'll run), Kind would start tied (but he won't), but after that Democrats barely have a bench; they're currently running a school board member for Governor and remaining close on the strength of polarization. Johnson's not a guarantee, but after Feingold, there really doesn't seem to be anyone who can beat him.

I wouldn't call it totally hopeless but to say he's favored is sheer hackery.

To say that Johnson is a certain reelection is certainly hackery, but considering that he's the incumbent and Democrats are basically stuck hoping a specific dude runs against him to win, and that they don't have much of a backup plan (beyond begging Kind), insisting that Johnson isn't favored requires some stretches of the imagination.
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« Reply #9 on: September 23, 2013, 07:38:18 PM »

Kind of hope they run Tom Barrett against Johnson Wink
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« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2013, 06:29:19 PM »

Kind of hope they run Tom Barrett against Johnson Wink

It'll be funny if he runs and loses again. Then he will have 3 major losses on his record and will look like a complete joke. Wink
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« Reply #11 on: October 07, 2013, 01:56:50 PM »

Kind of hope they run Tom Barrett against Johnson Wink

It'll be funny if he runs and loses again. Then he will have 3 major losses on his record and will look like a complete joke. Wink

Ron Johnson is a joke. He barely won in the anomalous Tea Party election in which numerous right-wingers who could never be elected at any time won.

2016 is going to be a rough year for Senate Republicans. Any easy target for Republicans in 2010 was defeated then, and Republicans will have plenty of low-lying fruit to pick off.
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« Reply #12 on: October 07, 2013, 02:21:09 PM »

Kind of hope they run Tom Barrett against Johnson Wink

It'll be funny if he runs and loses again. Then he will have 3 major losses on his record and will look like a complete joke. Wink

Ron Johnson is a joke. He barely won in the anomalous Tea Party election in which numerous right-wingers who could never be elected at any time won.

2016 is going to be a rough year for Senate Republicans. Any easy target for Republicans in 2010 was defeated then, and Republicans will have plenty of low-lying fruit to pick off.

Actually he won by 5 points.
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« Reply #13 on: October 07, 2013, 02:49:14 PM »

Kind of hope they run Tom Barrett against Johnson Wink

It'll be funny if he runs and loses again. Then he will have 3 major losses on his record and will look like a complete joke. Wink

Ron Johnson is a joke. He barely won in the anomalous Tea Party election in which numerous right-wingers who could never be elected at any time won.

2016 is going to be a rough year for Senate Republicans. Any easy target for Republicans in 2010 was defeated then, and Republicans will have plenty of low-lying fruit to pick off.

Actually he won by 5 points.

It still amazes me that Wisconsin dumped one of the most principled, dedicated, non-hackish, and uncorrupted politicians in the United States, a Democrat for a total dunderhead, a Republican, but then two years later, a popular and well-known Republican ex-Governor lost badly to a far-left, very partisan and fairly undistinguished Democrat.
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« Reply #14 on: October 07, 2013, 03:49:26 PM »

It was an open seat, but let's remember that liberal Tammy Baldwin managed to defeat Tommy Thompson who was supposed to be a lock. Considering that Johnson is more conservative and less established than Thompson, I'd say that he's right down there with Mark Kirk on the list of Republicans most likely to lose, even if Feingold doesn't run.
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« Reply #15 on: October 09, 2013, 08:01:37 AM »

Kind of hope they run Tom Barrett against Johnson Wink

It'll be funny if he runs and loses again. Then he will have 3 major losses on his record and will look like a complete joke. Wink

Ron Johnson is a joke. He barely won in the anomalous Tea Party election in which numerous right-wingers who could never be elected at any time won.

2016 is going to be a rough year for Senate Republicans. Any easy target for Republicans in 2010 was defeated then, and Republicans will have plenty of low-lying fruit to pick off.

Actually he won by 5 points.

It still amazes me that Wisconsin dumped one of the most principled, dedicated, non-hackish, and uncorrupted politicians in the United States, a Democrat for a total dunderhead, a Republican, but then two years later, a popular and well-known Republican ex-Governor lost badly to a far-left, very partisan and fairly undistinguished Democrat.

The Tea Party won a bunch of elections in D-leaning states in 2010. Such indicates a wave election in which some marginal pols get elected. A few do what gets them re-elected even if they are slightly out of phase with the political tendencies of their State or district --  competent and fair administration (for Governors and other elected administrators) that satisfies a majority of voters or do good constituent service and legislate in accordance with the political mainstream. But all too often a wave election brings in some incompetent pols and some who prove either tools of out-of-area interests or ideologues out of touch with the sensitivities of their constituents.

One wave can bring in flotsam, and another can take it away. Arrogance and incompetence have never been good for political survival in our political order, and politicians who better serve out-of-state interests and sensibilities than those of their own bailiwicks are the typical once-and-out pols.
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« Reply #16 on: October 09, 2013, 09:59:00 PM »

Kind of hope they run Tom Barrett against Johnson Wink

It'll be funny if he runs and loses again. Then he will have 3 major losses on his record and will look like a complete joke. Wink

Ron Johnson is a joke. He barely won in the anomalous Tea Party election in which numerous right-wingers who could never be elected at any time won.

2016 is going to be a rough year for Senate Republicans. Any easy target for Republicans in 2010 was defeated then, and Republicans will have plenty of low-lying fruit to pick off.

Actually he won by 5 points.

It still amazes me that Wisconsin dumped one of the most principled, dedicated, non-hackish, and uncorrupted politicians in the United States, a Democrat for a total dunderhead, a Republican, but then two years later, a popular and well-known Republican ex-Governor lost badly to a far-left, very partisan and fairly undistinguished Democrat.

Because it was two different electorates. Feingold would've crushed Johnson easily in 2012 and Thompson would've crushed Baldwin in 2010.
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