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« on: September 27, 2013, 11:17:16 AM »

20/17, with 14 for Christie and 11 for Bush, 10 for Rubio/Ryan.
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« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2013, 11:30:11 AM »

We knew this was coming.
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« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2013, 11:54:37 AM »

YES
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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2013, 12:01:46 PM »

Anyone call this earlier than June 10? Chris Cizilla or Cilliza or whatever, are you reading this? Let's get the dog on your staff!

In 2008, it was Huckabee for me; 2012 was Gingrich. In 2016, Cruz will be the candidate I absolutely despise and would never vote for in the General Election.

And I assume a giant chunk of 2016 primary voters will disagree with you every bit as much as they did in 2008 or 2012. I'd definitely bet on Crazy Cruz if intrade still existed. Am I the first person to make this prediction? Cruz will lead either several states or national GOP primary polling before the end of 2013.
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« Reply #4 on: September 27, 2013, 12:04:22 PM »

What's with Cruz getting 32% of the "very liberal" vote? He's gotten high results on that category for a lot of PPP polls now, and I don't quite understand.
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« Reply #5 on: September 27, 2013, 12:11:05 PM »

Paul + Cruz = 37%?

Wow the GOP has really jumped the shark.
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« Reply #6 on: September 27, 2013, 12:16:41 PM »

Kudos, Cruz, you've finally got what you wanted. Good luck sustaining it now that anyone who isn't at the Tea Party grassroots hates your guts.
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« Reply #7 on: September 27, 2013, 03:06:34 PM »

What's with Cruz getting 32% of the "very liberal" vote? He's gotten high results on that category for a lot of PPP polls now, and I don't quite understand.

That doesn't make much sense. I could see some anti-war liberaltarians going for Paul. But Cruz? Probably too small a sample size to be worth anything though.
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« Reply #8 on: September 27, 2013, 03:52:32 PM »

It must be true, God is a Democrat.
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« Reply #9 on: September 27, 2013, 04:07:00 PM »

So you're all wishing for a Cruz candidacy?  I'm scared of it.
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« Reply #10 on: September 27, 2013, 04:18:20 PM »

So you're all wishing for a Cruz candidacy?  I'm scared of it.

He managed to alienate almost all of his very conservative Republican colleagues within a single week. Imagine what a disaster he'd be in a months long campaign. Cruz only appeals to about 1/4 of the country, but that 1/4 is a majority in a GOP primary. And even if he loses, he'll have succeeded in pulling REAL contenders like Christie to the far far right during the primary circus. It's win/win for the Democrats.

I bet Hillary could get 60% against Cruz.
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« Reply #11 on: September 27, 2013, 04:36:30 PM »

So you're all wishing for a Cruz candidacy?  I'm scared of it.

He managed to alienate almost all of his very conservative Republican colleagues within a single week. Imagine what a disaster he'd be in a months long campaign. Cruz only appeals to about 1/4 of the country, but that 1/4 is a majority in a GOP primary. And even if he loses, he'll have succeeded in pulling REAL contenders like Christie to the far far right during the primary circus. It's win/win for the Democrats.

I bet Hillary could get 60% against Cruz.

I hope you're right!  He's very frightening.  From what I've seen on Facebook and elsewhere, the crazies are already very aroused by him.
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« Reply #12 on: September 27, 2013, 04:41:42 PM »

So you're all wishing for a Cruz candidacy?  I'm scared of it.

He managed to alienate almost all of his very conservative Republican colleagues within a single week. Imagine what a disaster he'd be in a months long campaign. Cruz only appeals to about 1/4 of the country, but that 1/4 is a majority in a GOP primary. And even if he loses, he'll have succeeded in pulling REAL contenders like Christie to the far far right during the primary circus. It's win/win for the Democrats.

I bet Hillary could get 60% against Cruz.

I hope you're right!  He's very frightening.  From what I've seen on Facebook and elsewhere, the crazies are already very aroused by him.

The crazies were also very aroused by Michele Bachmann/Rick Perry/Herman Cain/Newt Gingrich/Rick Santorum. Unfortunately, Cruz most likely won't win the nomination, but he'll probably end up damaging Christie even more than the aforementioned clowns damaged Romney.
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« Reply #13 on: September 27, 2013, 05:06:01 PM »

lol
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« Reply #14 on: September 27, 2013, 05:19:55 PM »

What's with Cruz getting 32% of the "very liberal" vote? He's gotten high results on that category for a lot of PPP polls now, and I don't quite understand.

Liberals that want Cruz to win the GOP nomination so that he loses...

Man, I'm not sure how I feel about this.
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« Reply #15 on: September 27, 2013, 05:29:19 PM »


The end of days? Yes I believe it was prophesied.
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« Reply #16 on: September 27, 2013, 06:18:09 PM »

What's with Cruz getting 32% of the "very liberal" vote? He's gotten high results on that category for a lot of PPP polls now, and I don't quite understand.

Tactical voters.
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« Reply #17 on: September 27, 2013, 06:44:21 PM »

Cruz and Paul both seem to do a little better in PPP polls than with other pollsters, so it'll be interesting to see if other pollsters back this up.  Anyway….

Cruz 20%
Paul 17%
Christie 14%
Rubio 10%
Ryan 10%
Jindal 4%
Santorum 3%
Walker 3%

who leads among….?
moderates: Christie
somewhat conservative: Paul
very conservative: Cruz
men: Cruz
women: Christie/Cruz/Paul
age 18-45: Paul
age 46-65: Cruz
age 65+: Cruz

Christie and Cruz are like mirror images of each other.  Christie is 34% among moderates and 4% among very conservative.  Cruz is 34% among very conservative and 4% among moderates.  Of course, very conservative outnumbers moderates in a GOP primary.  Hence, Cruz's lead.
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« Reply #18 on: September 27, 2013, 06:47:03 PM »

LOL.
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« Reply #19 on: September 27, 2013, 10:44:10 PM »

God damn, Cruz can't be president! He's way too young, as much as I love his leadership to stand up to the opposition. I'm sure this is just a temporary tea party reaction to his "fake filibuster". I hope this will fade and Christie and Paul will come back in first again. Or, this could just be a funky poll.
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« Reply #20 on: September 28, 2013, 12:11:28 AM »


Don't worry, he won't be.
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