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« on: September 29, 2013, 03:52:57 PM »
« edited: September 29, 2013, 03:55:06 PM by BlondeArtisit »

Can anything be done to change the gerrymandered districts in the house or does the country and its people have to wait till 2020 for this farce to potentially end?

Is it true that in 2012, democrats got more votes than republicans yet not a majority in the house races?

Gerrymandering has created this crisis. The 2012 election re-elected Obama. HE IS THE PRESIDENT.

In the senate, democrats and republicans spent millions on both sides in the swing states. After all the campaign ads, the results came in

Democrats held seats in Florida, Ohio, Montana, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Virginia, Missouri, New Mexico and Pennslyvania. They also gained seats in Indiana and Massachusetts.

Republicans won one democrat-held seat  - Nebraska. They held on in Nevada despite 45,000 voting for neither candidate and pulling out a win in Arizona after some late relevations about the democrat candidate.

So democrats why the presidency they won all the main senate battles after all the money spent. Where little attention was giving was with all those gerrymandered anti-democrat seats where 90% of the politicians can be corrupt yet still elected. So we have a house that is keeping the country hostage.

The presidency doesnt matter.
The senate doesnt matter.

The house, which is rigged like a casino, decides what is good law and what is bad and we have to live with it.

The middle east/europe doesn't sound so bad after all. At least they can kick people out.
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« Reply #1 on: September 29, 2013, 04:15:38 PM »

I'm glad you finally changed your avatar so that your incessant spewing of Democratic talking points makes some sense.
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« Reply #2 on: September 29, 2013, 06:38:04 PM »

Can anything be done to change the gerrymandered districts in the house

Some states have mechanisms to undergo mid-decade redistricting processes (last decade, Texas and Georgia both did so), but others don't, and no state is currently even considering changing US House district boundaries.

or does the country and its people have to wait till 2020 for this farce to potentially end?

The next redistricting cycle will take place during 2021-2022 and take effect in the elections of 2022; the winners of those don't take office until 2023. So you're about three years too optimistic.

Is it true that in 2012, democrats got more votes than republicans yet not a majority in the house races?

Technically, this is the case. An analysis at Daily Kos showed that this is the case merely because certain states (like Florida) don't count the votes from unopposed elections, and that were all the votes counted, Republicans would've won the popular vote.


You haven't referred to any crisis previously, so you can't use a demonstrative adjective with the word 'crisis'.


Not to the House of Representatives.


In which capacity he has zero authority over the House of Representatives.

In the senate, democrats and republicans spent millions on both sides in the swing states. After all the campaign ads, the results came in

Tell us more

Democrats held seats in Florida, Ohio, Montana, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Virginia, Missouri, New Mexico and Pennslyvania. They also gained seats in Indiana and Massachusetts.

Republicans won one democrat-held seat  - Nebraska. They held on in Nevada despite 45,000 voting for neither candidate and pulling out a win in Arizona after some late relevations about the democrat candidate.

I don't think you can really talk about late revelations aiding Republicans considering what occurred in Missouri or Indiana just for a start. But, in any case, our Senate is staggered; elections in 2012 were for only 1/3 of the Senate. The other 2/3 have just as much weight.

So democrats why the presidency they won all the main senate battles after all the money spent. Where little attention was giving was with all those gerrymandered anti-democrat seats where 90% of the politicians can be corrupt yet still elected.

Democratic seats tend to be safer, so such districts would logically tend to actually be urban, safe Democratic districts.

So we have a house that is keeping the country hostage.

Don't follow.


Being the key figure in our executive department matters quite a bit.


Of course it does, it's keeping the House from making any progress on getting rid of Obamacare.

The house, which is rigged like a casino, decides what is good law and what is bad and we have to live with it.

Well, we voted for it (and, for the most part, prior to that we fairly elected people to draw the boundaries for us or set up mechanisms for others to do so), so of course we have to live with it, but there'll be more elections in 2014. Right now, most prognosticators are projecting very slight Republican gains in both houses of Congress.

The middle east/europe doesn't sound so bad after all. At least they can kick people out.

#GeneralizingDozensOfCountriesAndHundredsOfMillionsOfPeopleInTwoSentences
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« Reply #3 on: September 29, 2013, 09:36:43 PM »

Can anything be done to change the gerrymandered districts in the house or does the country and its people have to wait till 2020 for this farce to potentially end?

Is it true that in 2012, democrats got more votes than republicans yet not a majority in the house races?

Gerrymandering has created this crisis. The 2012 election re-elected Obama. HE IS THE PRESIDENT.

In the senate, democrats and republicans spent millions on both sides in the swing states. After all the campaign ads, the results came in

Democrats held seats in Florida, Ohio, Montana, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Virginia, Missouri, New Mexico and Pennslyvania. They also gained seats in Indiana and Massachusetts.

Republicans won one democrat-held seat  - Nebraska. They held on in Nevada despite 45,000 voting for neither candidate and pulling out a win in Arizona after some late relevations about the democrat candidate.

So democrats why the presidency they won all the main senate battles after all the money spent. Where little attention was giving was with all those gerrymandered anti-democrat seats where 90% of the politicians can be corrupt yet still elected. So we have a house that is keeping the country hostage.

The presidency doesnt matter.
The senate doesnt matter.

The house, which is rigged like a casino, decides what is good law and what is bad and we have to live with it.

The middle east/europe doesn't sound so bad after all. At least they can kick people out.

Can you clarify?
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« Reply #4 on: September 30, 2013, 12:54:36 AM »

Can anything be done to change the gerrymandered districts in the house or does the country and its people have to wait till 2020 for this farce to potentially end?

Is it true that in 2012, democrats got more votes than republicans yet not a majority in the house races?

Gerrymandering has created this crisis. The 2012 election re-elected Obama. HE IS THE PRESIDENT.

In the senate, democrats and republicans spent millions on both sides in the swing states. After all the campaign ads, the results came in

Democrats held seats in Florida, Ohio, Montana, Wisconsin, North Dakota, Virginia, Missouri, New Mexico and Pennslyvania. They also gained seats in Indiana and Massachusetts.

Republicans won one democrat-held seat  - Nebraska. They held on in Nevada despite 45,000 voting for neither candidate and pulling out a win in Arizona after some late relevations about the democrat candidate.

So democrats why the presidency they won all the main senate battles after all the money spent. Where little attention was giving was with all those gerrymandered anti-democrat seats where 90% of the politicians can be corrupt yet still elected. So we have a house that is keeping the country hostage.

The presidency doesnt matter.
The senate doesnt matter.

The house, which is rigged like a casino, decides what is good law and what is bad and we have to live with it.

The middle east/europe doesn't sound so bad after all. At least they can kick people out.
The answer is no. The Dems did their share of gerrymandering in the 70's and 80's too to keep their seats as safe as can be which the R's are doing now. I'm with you on the issue of gerrymandering but nothing will change on that front in most states.
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