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YaBB God
Posts: 6,896

« on: October 29, 2003, 07:35:14 pm »
« edited: October 11, 2005, 07:41:22 pm by TCash101 »

In the most recent debate (FOX), Dean made the argument against his nomination very clear when he said he isn't afraid to take a stance that 70% of the country doesn't agree with. The number one job of the major nominees is to get a plurality of votes and a majority of electoral votes.

Kerry, Gephardt, and Clark on the other hand have positioned themselves in a place where they can win moderates and be truly competitive with Bush. Lieberman is too far right to appease the Dem primary voters and Edwards is just too far down in the polls.
YaBB God
Posts: 6,896

« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2003, 07:42:47 pm »
« Edited: December 29, 2005, 01:58:15 pm by Governor TCash »

I predict a narrow Dem victory, but slightly different state results. Differences w/ English marked *:

Alaska- Rep
Hawaii- Dem
Washington- Dem
Oregon- Dem
California- Dem
Nevada- Dem (Gain from Rep)
Idaho- Rep
Arizona- Dem*
New Mexico- Dem
Utah- Rep
Montana- Rep
Wyoming- Rep
Colorado- Rep
North Dakota- Rep
South Dakota- Rep
Nebraska- Rep
Kansas- Rep
Oklahoma- Rep
Texas- Rep
Minnesota- Dem
Wisconsin- Dem
Iowa- Rep*
Illinois- Dem
Missouri- Rep
Arkansas- Dem (Gain from Rep)
Louisiana- Rep*
Michigan- Dem
Indiana- Rep
Ohio- Dem*
Kentucky- Rep
Tennesee- Rep
Mississippi- Rep
Alabama- Rep
Georgia- Rep
Florida- Rep*
South Carolina- Rep
North Carolina- Rep
Virginia- Rep
West Virginia- Dem
Maryland- Dem
Pennsylvania- Dem*
Delaware- Dem
New York- Dem
Connecticut- Dem
New Jersey- Dem
Vermont- Dem
New Hampshire- Dem (Gain from Rep)
RI- Dem
Massachusetts- Dem
Maine- Dem

I think that gives the Dem 299 to Bushie's 239

quote author=Governor Mordac link=topic=29109.msg649626#msg649626 date=1127724784]
The worst public schools function, the better.

This is no more than a land grab.
If they want federal land they should pay market price for it.

I find it incredibly ironic that a federal official makes this "land grab" claim. My counter offer would be that we pay what the feds paid, multipled by inflation.

1. Are you aware how much the federal government paid for these lands to  begin with?
2. Are you aware how much state and local tax revenues we have lost because of federal seizure of these lands?
3.  Are you aware how much the bloated federal government spends maintaining these lands? We'd be saving you money by taking these lands back.

Come up with these three figures and then we'll start talking about market value.

Al, when this was originally proposed as an initiative in the SE, I asked for a similar list. (Semi-) Senator-elect Bono proposed the initiative, so IMO, he should provide this list unless the sponsoring senator wishes to.

Also, to add to the debate, here's an interesting editorial on federal lands:


YaBB God
Posts: 6,896

« Reply #2 on: October 30, 2003, 05:13:07 pm »
« Edited: May 22, 2006, 11:38:35 pm by AFCJ TCash »

By the way, I think that your apportioning of the states is probably a little early as we have no idea who the Democrat ticket is.

Geez, what a buzzkill!

And actually, for the record, here's an invitation to research the matter:

ask my brother the name of the principal at the Elementary School he teaches at. Ask him the gym teacher who mentored him. Ask him the school he was mentored at.

He knows it all, and it can be looked up.

Elimination of VP will lead to appointed Presidents, of our history of resignations and declarations of inactivity continue.

One proposal I'd like for us to consider is eliminating what I've stricken below:
The Regions may elect a Governor as chief executive officer, and may establish other executive posts as they wish, however no executive member may be elected for a term of more than six months.

I'm not against term limits, but I don't believe it's appropriate for the federal to mandate limits on the regions.
YaBB God
Posts: 6,896

« Reply #3 on: October 30, 2003, 05:16:02 pm »

If I take a cash advance on my credit card, put it in my checking account and brag about how the balance of my checking account was growing, would anyone have any praise for my management of my household budget?
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