Best POTUS since Eisenhower?
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 26, 2024, 09:44:25 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  General Politics
  Individual Politics (Moderator: The Dowager Mod)
  Best POTUS since Eisenhower?
« previous next »
Pages: [1] 2
Poll
Question: ?
#1
JFK
 
#2
LBJ
 
#3
Nixon
 
#4
Ford
 
#5
Carter
 
#6
Reagan
 
#7
Bush 41
 
#8
Clinton
 
#9
Bush 43
 
#10
Obama
 
Show Pie Chart
Partisan results

Total Voters: 60

Author Topic: Best POTUS since Eisenhower?  (Read 4442 times)
TDAS04
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 23,544
Bhutan


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« on: October 03, 2013, 05:21:08 PM »

Clinton, but I would not consider any of these to be among the ten greatest US Presidents of all time.
Logged
Peter the Lefty
Peternerdman
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 3,506
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #1 on: October 03, 2013, 05:30:37 PM »

JFK.
Logged
Goldwater
Republitarian
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 18,067
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.55, S: -4.52

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #2 on: October 03, 2013, 05:32:46 PM »

Reagan.
Logged
WalterMitty
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 21,572


Political Matrix
E: 1.68, S: -2.26

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #3 on: October 03, 2013, 05:56:49 PM »

clinton.  but ford had a lot of potential.  too bad he wasnt elected in 76.
Logged
FEMA Camp Administrator
Cathcon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,302
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #4 on: October 03, 2013, 06:27:26 PM »


The guy that orchestrated the Cuban Missile Crisis?
Logged
TNF
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,440


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #5 on: October 03, 2013, 06:31:00 PM »

Johnson for his role in establishing the welfare state.

Though literally all of them have been varying shades of awful since Truman.
Logged
RogueBeaver
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 20,058
Canada
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #6 on: October 03, 2013, 06:33:56 PM »

Logged
True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
Ernest
Moderators
Atlas Legend
*****
Posts: 42,156
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #7 on: October 03, 2013, 06:44:12 PM »

As the OP noted, none of these ranks among our top ten, but of these choices, Carter.
Logged
DevotedDemocrat
Jr. Member
***
Posts: 442
United States


Political Matrix
E: -6.00, S: 0.02

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #8 on: October 03, 2013, 06:46:15 PM »

Johnson, followed by Nixon and Ford.

Logged
H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,407
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #9 on: October 03, 2013, 06:59:18 PM »

LBJ followed probably by Obama and Nixon
Logged
FEMA Camp Administrator
Cathcon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,302
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #10 on: October 03, 2013, 07:03:24 PM »


What attracts you to Nixon? His intentionally short-sighted monetary and economic policies, intended to boost the economy temporarily in order to aid his re-election? His Vietnam policy? How about his America-weakening detente? Or maybe it's the plumbers that are just so awesome. After all, G. Gordon Liddy was a real American badass.
Logged
Vosem
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 15,637
United States


Political Matrix
E: 8.13, S: -6.09

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #11 on: October 03, 2013, 07:21:00 PM »

Reagan, mostly because of the dearth of opposition than anything else. Points to LBJ and GWB.
Logged
Oakvale
oakvale
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,827
Ukraine
Political Matrix
E: -0.77, S: -4.00

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2013, 07:27:02 PM »

Only on Atlas would people be rating some of the absolute worst Presidents in American history (Bush Jr, Nixon) as the "best since Eisenhower".
Logged
H. Ross Peron
General Mung Beans
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 9,407
Korea, Republic of


Political Matrix
E: -6.58, S: -1.91

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #13 on: October 03, 2013, 07:45:06 PM »


What attracts you to Nixon? His intentionally short-sighted monetary and economic policies, intended to boost the economy temporarily in order to aid his re-election? His Vietnam policy? How about his America-weakening detente? Or maybe it's the plumbers that are just so awesome. After all, G. Gordon Liddy was a real American badass.

Mostly Nixon's role in opening up China along with creating the EPA and OSHA while pushing for a system of UHC.
Logged
TNF
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,440


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #14 on: October 03, 2013, 07:49:42 PM »


What attracts you to Nixon? His intentionally short-sighted monetary and economic policies, intended to boost the economy temporarily in order to aid his re-election? His Vietnam policy? How about his America-weakening detente? Or maybe it's the plumbers that are just so awesome. After all, G. Gordon Liddy was a real American badass.

Mostly Nixon's role in opening up China along with creating the EPA and OSHA while pushing for a system of UHC.

EPA/OSHA were the Democrats' ideas watered down and made weaker by Nixon. He never would have signed them into law were it not for huge public pressure for him to do so. He never advocated for them nor did he support them beyond doing so for political ends, and you can be sure he would have vetoed both if he thought he could have gotten away with it.
Logged
TDAS04
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 23,544
Bhutan


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #15 on: October 03, 2013, 07:56:50 PM »


What attracts you to Nixon? His intentionally short-sighted monetary and economic policies, intended to boost the economy temporarily in order to aid his re-election? His Vietnam policy? How about his America-weakening detente? Or maybe it's the plumbers that are just so awesome. After all, G. Gordon Liddy was a real American badass.

Mostly Nixon's role in opening up China along with creating the EPA and OSHA while pushing for a system of UHC.

Nixon was relatively reasonable on domestic policy.  His foreign policy was extremely heartless, considering what he and Kissinger did to places such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, and Chile. 
Logged
TNF
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 13,440


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #16 on: October 03, 2013, 08:00:12 PM »


What attracts you to Nixon? His intentionally short-sighted monetary and economic policies, intended to boost the economy temporarily in order to aid his re-election? His Vietnam policy? How about his America-weakening detente? Or maybe it's the plumbers that are just so awesome. After all, G. Gordon Liddy was a real American badass.

Mostly Nixon's role in opening up China along with creating the EPA and OSHA while pushing for a system of UHC.

Nixon was relatively reasonable on domestic policy.  His foreign policy was extremely heartless, considering what he and Kissinger did to places such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, and Chile. 

He was a war criminal.
Logged
FEMA Camp Administrator
Cathcon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,302
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #17 on: October 03, 2013, 08:08:08 PM »

So lemme get this straight here. Being "reasonable" on domestic policy excuses him from running what basically constituted massive scams on both the domestic and foreign policy front? Good to know that the political matrix is all that matters in judging presidencies.
Logged
Lambsbread
20RP12
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 38,365
United States


Political Matrix
E: -5.29, S: -7.13

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #18 on: October 03, 2013, 08:11:56 PM »

JFK (jfk hack)
Logged
FEMA Camp Administrator
Cathcon
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 27,302
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #19 on: October 03, 2013, 08:12:44 PM »

Ah yes. I now remember my specific opposition to Nixon's Vietnam policy. He had opportunities to end the war on the same terms that he eventually did. Nevertheless, from a political standpoint, he judged it as more beneficial to himself to keep it going past the election. In his mind, even if he ended the war pre-election, the populace could then decide that economic issues were front and center and thus vote for the Democrats. Therefore, he kept a war going on needlessly--severely needlessly, I mean so frickin' unnecessarily--for the sake of election victories, allowing both more Americans and more Vietnamese to die.
Logged
© tweed
Miamiu1027
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,562
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #20 on: October 03, 2013, 08:20:31 PM »


What attracts you to Nixon? His intentionally short-sighted monetary and economic policies, intended to boost the economy temporarily in order to aid his re-election? His Vietnam policy? How about his America-weakening detente? Or maybe it's the plumbers that are just so awesome. After all, G. Gordon Liddy was a real American badass.

Mostly Nixon's role in opening up China along with creating the EPA and OSHA while pushing for a system of UHC.

Nixon was relatively reasonable on domestic policy.  His foreign policy was extremely heartless, considering what he and Kissinger did to places such as Cambodia, Bangladesh, and Chile. 

He was a war criminal.

I mean, the US president is the biggest war criminal in the world at any given time almost by definition.  I voted LBJ despite being the king war criminal among war criminals -- though Nixon was uniquely unaffected by it if we look at those conversations with Kissinger captured on the tapes.
Logged
Sopranos Republican
Matt from VT
YaBB God
*****
Posts: 4,178
United States


Political Matrix
E: 3.03, S: -8.87

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #21 on: October 03, 2013, 09:00:59 PM »

Reagan, and JFK are my personal favorites of the group.
Logged
Warren 4 Secretary of Everything
Clinton1996
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 5,208
United States


Political Matrix
E: -1.94, S: -4.70

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #22 on: October 03, 2013, 09:14:51 PM »

LBJ, he'd be remembered as one of the top 10 had Nixon not sabotaged his peace talks with Vietnam.
Logged
Goldwater
Republitarian
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 18,067
United States


Political Matrix
E: 1.55, S: -4.52

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #23 on: October 03, 2013, 09:54:38 PM »

Reagan, mostly because of the dearth of opposition than anything else. Points to LBJ and GWB.

I always find it odd to see conservatives praising LBJ...
Logged
© tweed
Miamiu1027
Atlas Superstar
*****
Posts: 36,562
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #24 on: October 03, 2013, 09:56:12 PM »

Reagan, mostly because of the dearth of opposition than anything else. Points to LBJ and GWB.

I always find it odd to see conservatives praising LBJ...

he did kill his share of gooks, in fairness.
Logged
Pages: [1] 2  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.055 seconds with 14 queries.