German Elections & Politics

[EPG]

So no substantive answer, apart from no multiculti, one Volk?

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

So no substantive answer, apart from no multiculti, one Volk?

It depends on what kind of "Multikulti". The Polish, the Italians, the Spanish, the Greeks, the Croatians, the Albanians have perfectly integrated with society. Only most Turks and basically all of the Arabs refuse unwaveringly to accept our cultural, democratic and legal values.
In Germany, many parallel societies and parallel justices have evolved. The police and paramedics don't even dare to enter those hoods.
Erdogan's Schutzstaffel intimidates, menace and even attack the few decent opponents of that sultan.

Here's a coverage of German boxer Ünsal Arik, one of the most prominent Erdogan despisers.
All those Turks were gathering to see and worship "THEIR" president Erdogan. He visited the crowd and was immediately threatened and insulted.
Take a look at 4:29, 6:12, 7:38, at 7:55 he is being encircled by the police for half an hour because Erdogan' Schutzstaffel slandered him as a "terrorist" (a common mean by the Turkish regime to arrest the sultan's detractors), and last but not least 10:42.
Some members of the German-Turkish Sturmstaffel even showed the Grey Wolves salute, the Turkish equivalent of the German Hitler salute:



Here he was being intimidated and insulted by another boxer and Erdogan fanboy at the vegan fair (lol): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymeKRrawjDw
And here is challenged and and threatened by another German-Turkish boxer, whose grammar skills are, let's say, capable of improvement ("Üsch herausfordere düsch!"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiSuu18008w

And here is a German car that Erdogan's Schutzstaffel converted into a Turkish police car. In Germany:



So, do you still think every kind of "Multikulti" is that great?

[JerryArkansas]

So no substantive answer, apart from no multiculti, one Volk?

It depends on what kind of "Multikulti". The Polish, the Italians, the Spanish, the Greeks, the Croatians, the Albanians have perfectly integrated with society. Only most Turks and basically all of the Arabs refuse unwaveringly to accept our cultural, democratic and legal values.
In Germany, many parallel societies and parallel justices have evolved. The police and paramedics don't even dare to enter those hoods.
Erdogan's Schutzstaffel intimidates, menace and even attack the few decent opponents of that sultan.

Here's a coverage of German boxer Ünsal Arik, one of the most prominent Erdogan despisers.
All those Turks were gathering to see and worship "THEIR" president Erdogan. He visited the crowd and was immediately threatened and insulted.
Take a look at 4:29, 6:12, 7:38, at 7:55 he is being encircled by the police for half an hour because Erdogan' Schutzstaffel slandered him as a "terrorist" (a common mean by the Turkish regime to arrest the sultan's detractors), and last but not least 10:42.
Some members of the German-Turkish Sturmstaffel even showed the Grey Wolves salute, the Turkish equivalent of the German Hitler salute:



Here he was being intimidated and insulted by another boxer and Erdogan fanboy at the vegan fair (lol): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymeKRrawjDw
And here is challenged and and threatened by another German-Turkish boxer, whose grammar skills are, let's say, capable of improvement ("Üsch herausfordere düsch!"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiSuu18008w

And here is a German car that Erdogan's Schutzstaffel converted into a Turkish police car. In Germany:



So, do you still think every kind of "Multikulti" is that great?

They might not be accepting the culture because racist people like you turn them off from it honey.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

They might not be accepting the culture because racist people like you turn them off from it honey.

Which of I wrote is supposed to be racist?
Do you even have the slightest clue how dangerous those people are?

[JonHawk]

So no substantive answer, apart from no multiculti, one Volk?

It depends on what kind of "Multikulti". The Polish, the Italians, the Spanish, the Greeks, the Croatians, the Albanians have perfectly integrated with society. Only most Turks and basically all of the Arabs refuse unwaveringly to accept our cultural, democratic and legal values.
In Germany, many parallel societies and parallel justices have evolved. The police and paramedics don't even dare to enter those hoods.
Erdogan's Schutzstaffel intimidates, menace and even attack the few decent opponents of that sultan.

Here's a coverage of German boxer Ünsal Arik, one of the most prominent Erdogan despisers.
All those Turks were gathering to see and worship "THEIR" president Erdogan. He visited the crowd and was immediately threatened and insulted.
Take a look at 4:29, 6:12, 7:38, at 7:55 he is being encircled by the police for half an hour because Erdogan' Schutzstaffel slandered him as a "terrorist" (a common mean by the Turkish regime to arrest the sultan's detractors), and last but not least 10:42.
Some members of the German-Turkish Sturmstaffel even showed the Grey Wolves salute, the Turkish equivalent of the German Hitler salute:



Here he was being intimidated and insulted by another boxer and Erdogan fanboy at the vegan fair (lol): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ymeKRrawjDw
And here is challenged and and threatened by another German-Turkish boxer, whose grammar skills are, let's say, capable of improvement ("Üsch herausfordere düsch!"): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BiSuu18008w

And here is a German car that Erdogan's Schutzstaffel converted into a Turkish police car. In Germany:



So, do you still think every kind of "Multikulti" is that great?

They might not be accepting the culture because racist people like you turn them off from it honey.

You're embarrassing yourself, "honey".

[Tender Branson]

So, do you still think every kind of "Multikulti" is that great?

They might not be accepting the culture because racist people like you turn them off from it honey.

It's not the German's duty to accept them with open arms. The immigrants who come have certain duties and not only rights. One of these duties is to integrate as best as possible and not set up parallel societies, which Erdogan and Co. actively try to do. Erdogan and also the Saudi and other extremist fu**ers need to be thrown out of our countries or otherwise combated vigorously, so that the liberal Muslims can have their place here and live their lives without the constant threat of being even more radicalized.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

I, and some other pundits, predicted a FW win in Landshut (northeast of Munich), where FW party leader Hubert Aiwanger ran. He received excellent 25% (+4,7%) of the first votes, but nevertheless narrowly lost against CSU candidate Helmut Radlmeier, who received 27.7% (-14.4%!).

Another FW hopeful was Thorsten Glauber, who competed in Forchheim (north of Nuremberg). His father, Reinhardt Glauber, is also a FW member and used to be the county commissioner of Forchheim County from 1996 till 2014. However, he lost his constituency by 9.2% against CSU candidate Michael Hofmann.

But there is also a very famous candidate of the Free Voters, who has been elected to the Bavarian Landtag: Alexander Hold. He used to be the second-most famous German TV judge until his retirement, and he was the official presidential candidate for the Free Voters in last year's election.
He didn't win his constituency in Kempten (in the southwest corner of Bavaria), but he received many more first votes (21.4%) than his party received second votes in the same district.

[Ethelberth]

Does somebody have maps about historical vote of Bayernparty. 

[DavidB.]

Does somebody have maps about historical vote of Bayernparty. 

The real voting patterns or the ones after the voter fraud that occurs because of the anti-Bayernpartei conspiracy?

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Furthermore, the SPD treacherously betrayed the blue-collar workers with the Blair-like "reforms".

Small defense of Blair (!) - he never did anything as blatantly economically right-wing Agenda 2010 (although he tried).

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Small defense of Blair (!) - he never did anything as blatantly economically right-wing Agenda 2010 (although he tried).

Yes, this is a very important point to understand. This is why the Labour Left did not leave as the SPD Left did.

Anyway, class in a narrow occupational sense isn't really the right way of looking at things for the Bavarian SPD - outside certain parts of Franconia (where, of course, they have retained a higher level of support than elsewhere even now) they were historically more of an urban party than a class party. Catholics in the countryside continued to vote overwhelmingly CSU even after the countryside ceased to be exactly rural and even after they got nice new industrial jobs rather than worked on the family farm.

[DavidB.]

Small defense of Blair (!) - he never did anything as blatantly economically right-wing Agenda 2010 (although he tried).

Yes, this is a very important point to understand. This is why the Labour Left did not leave as the SPD Left did.

That, and FPTP...

[Filuwaúrdjan]

Small defense of Blair (!) - he never did anything as blatantly economically right-wing Agenda 2010 (although he tried).

Yes, this is a very important point to understand. This is why the Labour Left did not leave as the SPD Left did.

That, and FPTP...

And a fundamentally adversarial political culture that can keep large political parties together out of sheer hate for the other side, yes.

[republicanbayer]

Furthermore, the SPD treacherously betrayed the blue-collar workers with the Blair-like "reforms".

Small defense of Blair (!) - he never did anything as blatantly economically right-wing Agenda 2010 (although he tried).

I think the impact of the Agenda on the SPD today is vastly exaggerated. In 2005, 2 years after the Agenda passed, there were still thousands of people protesting the harshest welfare cuts in our history week after week, we had a huge deficit, a stagnant economy, and an unemployment rate of 11.7%. Still, Schröder got 34% in the 2005 election. Yes, many voters left to the Linke, but why would those who voted for the Agenda-SPD in 2005 abandon them in 2018, after 13 years of almost unprecedented economic success, mainly thanks to the Agenda? (btw, the SPD hasn't lost a meaningful number of voters to the anti-Agenda Linke party in any of the recent elections)
If the SPD made any mistake regarding the Agenda, it's that they are ashamed of it. Compared to 2005, almost 7 million more people have a job today. These are Agenda-jobs and they could be SPD-jobs and SPD voters. But they aren't and that's the problem. The SPD is trying everything to distance themselves from their major accomplishment in 16 years of federal government.

Their decline is caused by terrible candidates (Martin Schulz), horribly governed states (NRW, Berlin, Bremen) and no policy ideas expect for gender neutral language and billions of welfare spending. Their party leader seems to be a grown up version of the "cash me outside" girl, their agenda is set by their SJW JuSo leader Kevin Kühnert and the foreign minister has lost three straight election in the joke state of Saarland before he got promoted to the federal level. Oh, and the guy called Thorsten Schäfer-Gümbel, who is supposed to save them in the Hessen state election in 2 weeks, has lost this very election the last two times.

[Middle-aged Europe]

Yes, many voters left to the Linke, but why would those who voted for the Agenda-SPD in 2005 abandon them in 2018, after 13 years of almost unprecedented economic success, mainly thanks to the Agenda? (btw, the SPD hasn't lost a meaningful number of voters to the anti-Agenda Linke party in any of the recent elections)
If the SPD made any mistake regarding the Agenda, it's that they are ashamed of it. Compared to 2005, almost 7 million more people have a job today. These are Agenda-jobs and they could be SPD-jobs and SPD voters. But they aren't and that's the problem. The SPD is trying everything to distance themselves from their major accomplishment in 16 years of federal government.

The mere number of jobs is not in itself a measure of success, but also the quality of these jobs, how much you earn in them and whether how much you earn in them is suffice to live well above the poverty line.

[President Johnson]

Furthermore, the SPD treacherously betrayed the blue-collar workers with the Blair-like "reforms".

Small defense of Blair (!) - he never did anything as blatantly economically right-wing Agenda 2010 (although he tried).

The should have implemented a minimum wage at the time, but the unions and Greens were opposed to it. The large part of the Agenda 2010 reforms were necessary and are a key factor to our economic strenght. Some corrections here and there are needed or were already made, but overall the Agenda has been a success for the country.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

[President Johnson]

New poll out of Hesse, where the state election takes place on October 28:



Source

[Tender Branson]

I, and some other pundits, predicted a FW win in Landshut (northeast of Munich), where FW party leader Hubert Aiwanger ran. He received excellent 25% (+4,7%) of the first votes, but nevertheless narrowly lost against CSU candidate Helmut Radlmeier, who received 27.7% (-14.4%!).

Another FW hopeful was Thorsten Glauber, who competed in Forchheim (north of Nuremberg). His father, Reinhardt Glauber, is also a FW member and used to be the county commissioner of Forchheim County from 1996 till 2014. However, he lost his constituency by 9.2% against CSU candidate Michael Hofmann.

But there is also a very famous candidate of the Free Voters, who has been elected to the Bavarian Landtag: Alexander Hold. He used to be the second-most famous German TV judge until his retirement, and he was the official presidential candidate for the Free Voters in last year's election.
He didn't win his constituency in Kempten (in the southwest corner of Bavaria), but he received many more first votes (21.4%) than his party received second votes in the same district.

It would be fun if Hold becomes Justice minister in the new CSU-FW government ...

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

It would be fun if Hold becomes Justice minister in the new CSU-FW government ...

It would actually be a good and reasonable thing. He would be one of very ministers in Germany who is actually proficient in his métier.

[President Johnson]

It would be fun if Hold becomes Justice minister in the new CSU-FW government ...

It would actually be a good and reasonable thing. He would be one of very ministers in Germany who is actually proficient in his métier.

LOL, when Rex Tillerson was appointed, I said Dieter Zetsche should be foreign minister.

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

It would be fun if Hold becomes Justice minister in the new CSU-FW government ...

It would actually be a good and reasonable thing. He would be one of very ministers in Germany who is actually proficient in his métier.

LOL, when Rex Tillerson was appointed, I said Dieter Zetsche should be foreign minister.

What about Judge Judy as the new Attorney General.

[rob in cal]

Question for Hades, you mentioned some parts of German cities where due to Turk/Arab situation police don't have a presence, and school system is bad to be a non-Moslem.  What would be the prime example of such places?

[palandio]

Question for Hades, you mentioned some parts of German cities where due to Turk/Arab situation police don't have a presence, and school system is bad to be a non-Moslem.  What would be the prime example of such places?

Can't say if it is really like they say, but the stereotypical places that are usually mentioned are:
- Berlin-Neukölln (mostly the locality proper, not the outer parts of the borough; and the most central parts not anymore due to gentrification, but still massive headlines about Mhallami and Palestinian-Lebanese clan criminality)
- Duisburg-Marxloh
- parts of Berlin-Wedding
- sometimes areas in the north of Essen are mentioned (e.g. Altenessen)
- unspecified parts of Bremen

[Anzeigenhauptmeister]

Question for Hades, you mentioned some parts of German cities where due to Turk/Arab situation police don't have a presence, and school system is bad to be a non-Moslem.  What would be the prime example of such places?

Berlin, especially Neukölln. In 2006, the Rütli Schule made news in 2006 when teachers wrote a letter to the senate office demanding the school be closed down, as they were no longer able to deal with violent youngsters. In 158 of 359 primary schools, more than half of the students have foreign roots; in 27 of those schools, German isn't the mother tongue of 90% of the children.

Bremen
Essen
Duisburg
Frankfurt

Look here: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eRtse8QhbAA
Te clan criminality already reaches into uptown neighborhoods and eighth division soccer games (the referrer didn't even dare to red-card the migrant who assaulted the player, who was lying prostrate.)
At the beginning the news anchor explains that the "FBI" has admitted that Arab clan structure have become firmly established and the police and the persecution don't even dare to enter those problem areas as they are menaced by the clan criminals.
At the end one of the clan members explains one reason how it has to come to that: The lenient justice; he explicitly turns the naivety of German judges.
police and the persecution have admit