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Senator Cris
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« Reply #200 on: February 18, 2014, 07:50:19 AM »
Quote from: Ilùvatar on February 18, 2014, 07:07:26 AM
Polls are showing a lead for the center-right in both Piemonte and Abruzzo, but reliability is under question since all polls were also giving a lead to Cappellacci (CR) in Sardegna.
I think Piemonte could also swing to center-left. They are pushing a a heavyweight like Chiamparino for the primary and on the other side no one wants to be the punching bag.

In Piemonte, the CS is the favorite, considering that NCD and UDC can run without Forza Italia.
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« Reply #201 on: February 18, 2014, 08:13:47 AM »
Quote from: Cris on February 18, 2014, 07:50:19 AM
In Piemonte, the CS is the favorite, considering that NCD and UDC can run without Forza Italia.

The polls I've seen were giving a lead to CD and I don't think UDC and NCD will run alone.

But still, I think Chiamparino will be the next President of Piemonte.
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« Reply #202 on: February 18, 2014, 08:30:50 AM »
Quote from: palandio on February 18, 2014, 04:05:06 AM
+Lombardia+Veneto+Lazio+Abbruzzo+Piemonte (though I think the latter could change)

Let's be clear: the fascist traitors are not to be counted as "center-right." Also, Lazio is now with PD after the Polverini debacle.
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« Reply #203 on: February 18, 2014, 08:42:14 AM »
The center-right regional governments are:

Piemonte (Lega), Lombardia (Lega), Veneto (Lega), Abruzzo (Forza Italia), Campania (Forza Italia) and Calabria (NCD)
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« Reply #204 on: February 20, 2014, 02:40:29 PM »
The prospective timetable now is: government announced on Friday, swearing in on Saturday, and confidence vote on Monday. Hopefully it will be respected.
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« Reply #205 on: February 21, 2014, 02:01:02 PM »
Government has been announced today. 8 men and 8 women. Almost all the PD guys have been replaced, but all three NCD ministers keep their portfolios (though Alfano lost his Deputy PM rank). The economy minister is yet another "technician", a guy named Padoan.
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« Reply #206 on: February 22, 2014, 10:58:35 AM »
Renzi has been sworn in as PM

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-europe-26301943
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« Reply #207 on: February 22, 2014, 11:02:41 AM »

Renzi seems like a strong leader; it will be interesting to see what he does with is term.
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« Reply #208 on: February 22, 2014, 11:09:08 AM »
Poisoned chalice.
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« Reply #209 on: February 22, 2014, 11:17:28 AM »
The key date is Monday, when he will announce his government's program and ask for the Senate's confidence. Normally it should pass, but you never know...
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« Reply #210 on: February 22, 2014, 09:27:30 PM »
Quote from: Clarko95 on February 22, 2014, 07:33:27 PM
Whatever may happen, best wishes to him and the new government!

I second this.
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« Reply #211 on: February 24, 2014, 08:25:35 AM »
Renzi speaking before the Senate right now. Confidence vote to follow.
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« Reply #212 on: February 24, 2014, 08:36:38 AM »
PASOK 2015

Oh, wrong thread...
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« Reply #213 on: February 24, 2014, 08:58:33 AM »

UDC 2018! Cheesy
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« Reply #214 on: February 24, 2014, 09:32:18 AM »
What about the fiscal conservatives in the north?
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« Reply #215 on: February 24, 2014, 06:48:40 PM »
Renzi gets 169 votes in his confidence vote.
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« Reply #216 on: February 24, 2014, 07:09:44 PM »
Quote from: Keystone Phil on February 24, 2014, 06:48:40 PM
Renzi gets 169 votes in his confidence vote.

So now it begins for good.


Changed the title for accuracy. Tongue
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« Reply #217 on: February 26, 2014, 06:09:57 AM »
So Renzi got the confidence in the House as well yesterday. Now time to see what he is really capable of.
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« Reply #218 on: March 06, 2014, 05:23:37 PM »
Haha, there might be some deal of truth in the ironic title I just put on for this thread! Grin

Renzi visited a school yesterday, and the children greeted him with a made-for song, a sort of kiddie anthem (with lyrics such as "we clap our hands to greet you, President!" and "Matteo! Matteo!"). Opponents have already drawn parallels with fascism...
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« Reply #219 on: March 13, 2014, 08:26:38 AM »
Electoral reform has passed in the House, and should soon be taken up by the Senate.

Also, Renzi unveiled a pretty major economic stimulus plan, which would cut the income tax on lower incomes by about 1000€ per year. There's also a 10% cut to the production tax, measures to speed up the payment of debts owed by the government, and later a blueprint for labor reform that would include universal unemployment benefits. Pretty big stuff all around.

All this apparently would be paid for by cuts to "unproductive" spending (the salaries of top ranking public administrators, etc), a raise in taxation on capital gains, and savings that will come from lowered interest rates. It's not fully clear whether it would be enough, but the government seems to believe it is.
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« Reply #220 on: March 13, 2014, 08:36:43 AM »
Anything about the Senate in there? Either abolition or reducing its power?
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« Reply #221 on: March 13, 2014, 10:56:32 AM »
Quote from: RogueBeaver on March 13, 2014, 08:36:43 AM
Anything about the Senate in there? Either abolition or reducing its power?

The constitutional amendment abolishing the elective chamber and replacing it with a Bundesrat-like thing with a merely consultative role is due to be introduced in the upcoming days. However, the procedure for constitutional reform is very long in Italy, and will be even longer this time considering the opposition that it will inevitably steer. I don't think that will get passed within this year, tbh.
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« Reply #222 on: March 13, 2014, 11:54:47 AM »
Lib Dem MEP Andrew Duff on Italy's new poor electoral law:

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« Reply #223 on: March 13, 2014, 02:36:27 PM »

Yeah, the law is objectively pretty terrible, and I fault Renzi for not fighting more over gender parity and the runoff threshold. Still, we need an electoral system that works and actually provides us with a stable majority. A sh*tty electoral system is better than status quo.
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« Reply #224 on: March 14, 2014, 03:26:40 AM »
It seems like grasping for a stable majority is what brought us to the status quo in the first place.
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