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« on: March 09, 2005, 04:29:28 AM »

Is there a chance that Santorum, now facing Bob Casey in the general election (if he wins the primary, of course), could decide not to run for reelection and instead run aganist Rendell?

Pros:
has charisma
will unite GOP (especially in District 13, eh Keystone Cheesy)

Cons:
would be portrayed as running away from Casey
usual BS about his right wing agenda

So? What do you think?
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« Reply #1 on: March 09, 2005, 04:32:26 AM »

Is there a chance that Santorum, now facing Bob Casey in the general election (if he wins the primary, of course), could decide not to run for reelection and instead run aganist Rendell?

Pros:
has charisma
will unite GOP (especially in District 13, eh Keystone Cheesy)

Cons:
would be portrayed as running away from Casey
usual BS about his right wing agenda

So? What do you think?

There's usually a bit of an incumbent advantage, which might hurt him doubly if he ran against Rendell instead of for re-election.

There are exceptions, though.
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« Reply #2 on: March 09, 2005, 12:02:51 PM »

Why on earth would he do something that stupid?
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« Reply #3 on: March 09, 2005, 01:28:39 PM »

I've suggested this many times before.

If I were Santorum, I'd wait it out a little longer...do some more polling and decide in the fall.
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« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2005, 01:49:04 PM »

If I was Santorum, I'd either retire or lose in honor.
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« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2005, 03:58:21 PM »

Santorum's name has been floated around as a Gubernatorial candidate before. I don't think he'll do it though. If he did, it would certainly be a good race and he could win it.
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« Reply #6 on: March 09, 2005, 04:01:02 PM »

what is that sound?

it is good ol walter mitty making chicken sounds.
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« Reply #7 on: March 09, 2005, 04:03:01 PM »

it is good ol walter mitty making chicken sounds.

Being the clown that you are, it wouldn't surprise me that you're acting like farm animals.
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« Reply #8 on: March 09, 2005, 04:07:45 PM »

you do know there is no way in hell santorum can win the 2008 nomination if he backs down fromt he senate race in 06?
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« Reply #9 on: March 09, 2005, 04:09:58 PM »

you do know there is no way in hell santorum can win the 2008 nomination if he backs down fromt he senate race in 06?

Actually, there is. He would be one of the first candidates in the primary and could gain a good amount of support. Politicos like you and I see it as Santorum not running because of a political threat but your average voter really won't notice or care that much.
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« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2005, 04:11:17 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.
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« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2005, 04:12:25 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.

Thanks for showing that you know very little about PA politics.
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« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2005, 04:15:44 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.

Thanks for showing that you know very little about PA politics.

rendell is much more popular.  do you think casey;s crazy-ass populism sells well with educated voters in the suburbs? 
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« Reply #13 on: March 09, 2005, 04:17:07 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.

Thanks for showing that you know very little about PA politics.

MY EDDIE AIN'T GOIN NOWHERE!!! heh ok, but really...he's pretty much a lock for re-election. He is the fundraising king, there's no candidate that could beat him, and most Pennsylvanians think he has done a good job.
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« Reply #14 on: March 09, 2005, 04:19:57 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.

Thanks for showing that you know very little about PA politics.

MY EDDIE AIN'T GOIN NOWHERE!!! heh ok, but really...he's pretty much a lock for re-election. He is the fundraising king, there's no candidate that could beat him, and most Pennsylvanians think he has done a good job.

He's not a lock. If most Pennsylvanians thought he did such a good job, why are his disapproval numbers up? Why are his approval ratings the lowest?

Walter, Casey is more popular than Rendell. You might not like him but he's the more well liked of the two.
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« Reply #15 on: March 09, 2005, 04:25:23 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.

Thanks for showing that you know very little about PA politics.

MY EDDIE AIN'T GOIN NOWHERE!!! heh ok, but really...he's pretty much a lock for re-election. He is the fundraising king, there's no candidate that could beat him, and most Pennsylvanians think he has done a good job.

He's not a lock. If most Pennsylvanians thought he did such a good job, why are his disapproval numbers up? Why are his approval ratings the lowest?

Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.

Walter, Casey is more popular than Rendell. You might not like him but he's the more well liked of the two.

Casey is more popular then Rendell...but look who he is up against. Rendell will have no serious challenger. Swann is a joke...he's not even favored to win the primary!
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« Reply #16 on: March 09, 2005, 04:27:55 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.

Thanks for showing that you know very little about PA politics.

MY EDDIE AIN'T GOIN NOWHERE!!! heh ok, but really...he's pretty much a lock for re-election. He is the fundraising king, there's no candidate that could beat him, and most Pennsylvanians think he has done a good job.

He's not a lock. If most Pennsylvanians thought he did such a good job, why are his disapproval numbers up? Why are his approval ratings the lowest?

Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.

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Casey is more popular then Rendell...but look who he is up against. Rendell will have no serious challenger. Swann is a joke...he's not even favored to win the primary!

No I'm not kidding. His approval ratings are lowest, his disapproval numbers are the highest. That's a fact, dan. Learn to accept them. He's not the extremely popular guy you think he is.

Rendell will have a serious challenger if Swann is the nominee but please, keep thinking the way you're thinking. Keep thinking Rendell is the political idol that he was in 2002. Then you can think of a way to get to his office and help him pack up after he loses.
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« Reply #17 on: March 09, 2005, 04:32:57 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.

Thanks for showing that you know very little about PA politics.

MY EDDIE AIN'T GOIN NOWHERE!!! heh ok, but really...he's pretty much a lock for re-election. He is the fundraising king, there's no candidate that could beat him, and most Pennsylvanians think he has done a good job.

He's not a lock. If most Pennsylvanians thought he did such a good job, why are his disapproval numbers up? Why are his approval ratings the lowest?

Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.

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Casey is more popular then Rendell...but look who he is up against. Rendell will have no serious challenger. Swann is a joke...he's not even favored to win the primary!

No I'm not kidding. His approval ratings are lowest, his disapproval numbers are the highest. That's a fact, dan. Learn to accept them. He's not the extremely popular guy you think he is.

Rendell will have a serious challenger if Swann is the nominee but please, keep thinking the way you're thinking. Keep thinking Rendell is the political idol that he was in 2002. Then you can think of a way to get to his office and help him pack up after he loses.


The problem is, dear Phil, Rendell is an incumbent Governor with a massive base of support and no serious challenger. Swann is *not* serious. Pennsylvania is a state that supports the political establishment....it is not an Arnold state. Swann would lose to Rendell, it wouldn't even be that close. The polls also show that.
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« Reply #18 on: March 09, 2005, 04:34:41 PM »

his chances are better against casey than rendell.

Thanks for showing that you know very little about PA politics.

MY EDDIE AIN'T GOIN NOWHERE!!! heh ok, but really...he's pretty much a lock for re-election. He is the fundraising king, there's no candidate that could beat him, and most Pennsylvanians think he has done a good job.

He's not a lock. If most Pennsylvanians thought he did such a good job, why are his disapproval numbers up? Why are his approval ratings the lowest?

Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.

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Casey is more popular then Rendell...but look who he is up against. Rendell will have no serious challenger. Swann is a joke...he's not even favored to win the primary!

No I'm not kidding. His approval ratings are lowest, his disapproval numbers are the highest. That's a fact, dan. Learn to accept them. He's not the extremely popular guy you think he is.

Rendell will have a serious challenger if Swann is the nominee but please, keep thinking the way you're thinking. Keep thinking Rendell is the political idol that he was in 2002. Then you can think of a way to get to his office and help him pack up after he loses.


The problem is, dear Phil, Rendell is an incumbent Governor with a massive base of support and no serious challenger. Swann is *not* serious. Pennsylvania is a state that supports the political establishment....it is not an Arnold state. Swann would lose to Rendell, it wouldn't even be that close. The polls also show that.

Massive base of support? Explain his approval ratings. Explain why if his base is so massive, he didn't beat Fisher by the 20 points everyone was predicting.

Swann is loved out west. Rendell is disliked. Get over it.
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« Reply #19 on: March 09, 2005, 04:47:43 PM »


Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.


So Santorum is a lock for re-election?  He has better numbers than Rendel does.  So...
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« Reply #20 on: March 09, 2005, 05:26:33 PM »


Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.


So Santorum is a lock for re-election?  He has better numbers than Rendel does.  So...

Nope, he has a much stronger challenger in Casey.
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« Reply #21 on: March 09, 2005, 05:37:49 PM »


Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.


So Santorum is a lock for re-election?  He has better numbers than Rendel does.  So...

Nope, he has a much stronger challenger in Casey.

You were one that was saying Hafer could beat Santorum.
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« Reply #22 on: March 09, 2005, 08:55:38 PM »


Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.


So Santorum is a lock for re-election?  He has better numbers than Rendel does.  So...

Nope, he has a much stronger challenger in Casey.

You were one that was saying Hafer could beat Santorum.

Well, I think Hafer could beat Santorum, but Casey is more likely to.  Rendell IS a lock for re-election.  There is no way Santorum or Swann could beat him.
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« Reply #23 on: March 09, 2005, 10:07:23 PM »


Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.


So Santorum is a lock for re-election?  He has better numbers than Rendel does.  So...

Nope, he has a much stronger challenger in Casey.

You were one that was saying Hafer could beat Santorum.

Well, I think Hafer could beat Santorum, but Casey is more likely to.  Rendell IS a lock for re-election.  There is no way Santorum or Swann could beat him.

Smash, stop in NE Philly on your Democratic Fantasy World Express.

No way Santorum or Swann could beat him? Are you crazy? This is not Tom Ridge. This is not Bob Casey, Sr. Get that through your head.

Sure SE PA Dems loves Rendell but please, please, please realize there is more to the state than just this area. Rendell is disliked out west (remember when he won out there in 2002?). He might win re-election but you're incredibly foolish if you think Rendell is a lock.
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« Reply #24 on: March 09, 2005, 10:20:40 PM »


Are you kidding....his dissapproval ratings are hovering around or just below 40 and his approval ratings are above 50....in a state that is so close politically, that is pretty much a lock for re-election.


So Santorum is a lock for re-election?  He has better numbers than Rendel does.  So...

Nope, he has a much stronger challenger in Casey.

You were one that was saying Hafer could beat Santorum.

What does that have to do with anything?
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