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« Reply #25 on: November 05, 2013, 05:58:18 PM »

Ann Richardson was a southerner who attracted crossover voters. Wendy Davis  can only maximize her base. Not enough in the Deep South.

Who's Ann Richardson?


The last Dem gov of TX. She served '91-'95.


This poll is much more what I was expecting.

I thought the last Dem governor of Texas was Ann Richards.
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« Reply #26 on: November 05, 2013, 07:30:29 PM »

Texas is shifting, but not how most people think.  It's not becoming a swing state, it's becoming the Democrats' answer to the GOP's Pennsylvania: the state that seems tantalizingly in reach that if they could win would guarantee their victory every time, yet decisively rejects them every election.
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« Reply #27 on: November 05, 2013, 09:35:55 PM »

Texas is shifting, but not how most people think.  It's not becoming a swing state, it's becoming the Democrats' answer to the GOP's Pennsylvania: the state that seems tantalizingly in reach that if they could win would guarantee their victory every time, yet decisively rejects them every election.

Except for the curious fact that the GOP has plenty of statewide offices in PA and the Democrats keep losing in Texas.
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« Reply #28 on: November 06, 2013, 12:08:49 AM »

Ann Richardson was a southerner who attracted crossover voters. Wendy Davis  can only maximize her base. Not enough in the Deep South.

Who's Ann Richardson?


The last Dem gov of TX. She served '91-'95.


This poll is much more what I was expecting.

I thought the last Dem governor of Texas was Ann Richards.

Actually, Ann Richards was the last Democratic Governor of Texas. Smiley
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« Reply #29 on: November 06, 2013, 12:33:23 AM »

Well this cancels out the other 2 polls out from other firms showing Abbott up below 10. This looks pretty realistic.
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« Reply #30 on: November 06, 2013, 02:57:02 PM »

Texas is shifting, but not how most people think.  It's not becoming a swing state, it's becoming the Democrats' answer to the GOP's Pennsylvania: the state that seems tantalizingly in reach that if they could win would guarantee their victory every time, yet decisively rejects them every election.

Except for the curious fact that the GOP has plenty of statewide offices in PA and the Democrats keep losing in Texas.

It's becoming =/= has become
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« Reply #31 on: November 07, 2013, 11:19:57 PM »

Texas is shifting, but not how most people think.  It's not becoming a swing state, it's becoming the Democrats' answer to the GOP's Pennsylvania: the state that seems tantalizingly in reach that if they could win would guarantee their victory every time, yet decisively rejects them every election.

Except for the curious fact that the GOP has plenty of statewide offices in PA and the Democrats keep losing in Texas.

Actually very true. TX Dems haven't been able to get it together for a while.
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« Reply #32 on: November 07, 2013, 11:26:06 PM »

Texas is shifting, but not how most people think.  It's not becoming a swing state, it's becoming the Democrats' answer to the GOP's Pennsylvania: the state that seems tantalizingly in reach that if they could win would guarantee their victory every time, yet decisively rejects them every election.

Except for the curious fact that the GOP has plenty of statewide offices in PA and the Democrats keep losing in Texas.

It's becoming =/= has become

'Becoming' is a curious phrase. The Democrats were closer a decade ago than they were today. The Republicans only won the legislature properly in the early 2000s.
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« Reply #33 on: November 08, 2013, 12:17:39 AM »

The sudden Democratic excitement for Texas is baffling. We have lower hanging fruit... Like Florida; always have. 15 points isn't tantalizingly close; it's not even close to being tantalizing close. The GOP regularly gets 47 in Pennslvania.
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« Reply #34 on: November 08, 2013, 01:52:06 AM »

The sudden Democratic excitement for Texas is baffling. We have lower hanging fruit... Like Florida; always have. 15 points isn't tantalizingly close; it's not even close to being tantalizing close. The GOP regularly gets 47 in Pennslvania.

Sure but I think it's because most people expect a lot of relative movement in Arizona, Georgia, and Texas over the next 10-20 years if only because of demographics whereas Pennsylvania is seen as pretty stable. Makes it pretty interesting in general.

I agree with the lower-hanging fruit sentiment though. Florida is a much more viable Democratic target, especially important considering its weight in 2016. That said, Florida becoming lean-D wouldn't be as devastating to the GOP compared to them losing Texas so that probably adds to the excitement.
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« Reply #35 on: November 25, 2013, 04:33:34 PM »

Ann Richards was much more conservative then Wendy is/ever will be.

Wendy is something else, ditching her first husband after he paid for her to go to Harvard
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