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RogueBeaver
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« on: November 09, 2013, 08:30:08 PM »

Getting this scenario is fairly easy. Convention scenario was the exact same as Iggy/Rae in '06, so better coordination with Winters and giving a half-decent speech instead of RL's self-nuke should do it. Left goes haywire with the centre-right's return after a decade in exile, but centre-right swing voters could give Hellyer a strong majority at PC expense. Problem for them in '72 is a disappointed left causing a Dipper surge similar to RL's if progressives don't get enough.

More generally, how does Hellyer do as PM, how long can he stay PM, policy implications down the line?
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 07:21:00 PM »

Hellyer was centre-right? I thought he was a lefty due to his Canadian Action Party background.

If there's no Hellyermania, I could see yet a 4th straight Liberal minority. There's too much inertia at this point for a major NDP breakthrough (perhaps this happens in the 1970's) The Liberals lose to the NDP and Socreds and a bit to the Tories as well. In terms of seats, the Socreds pick up a few seats in Quebec and retain one seat in BC, the NDP have a minor breakthrough (think Broadbent results), the Tories win a chunk of seats and the Liberals lose many.

Liberal 115
PC 87
NDP 42
Social Credit 20

We get an election in the early 1970's where the NDP emerge as a major force.
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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2013, 05:57:41 PM »

Yeah, Hellyer was on the party's centre-right then but he did have backing from a wide range of the Liberal spectrum, including parts of the centre-left. Most famously Judy LaMarsh. Tongue One of his themes was CONTROL after 5 years of psychodrama and weak political leadership, or as Newman puts it, he'd deal with the bureaucrats the same way he dealt with the admirals. So he can campaign as himself while touting the popular parts of Pearson's record. No mania but I think a Liberal majority is still possible.

In policy terms you'd see a continuation of Pearson's foreign policy, but domestic issues will be a problem. LaMarsh would remain in politics, and as a close ally she'd probably have enough leeway to enact progressive-pleasing policy initiatives. Otherwise the Dippers surge in '72 and quite possibly hand Stanfield the Sussex keys. Quebec is a tough one, and since Hellyer didn't hold a domestic policy portfolio I don't know what his views on it would be. Most likely the confrontational strategy continues, since that fits Hellyer's personality and ROC public opinion would demand an aggressive pushback against the Unionist push for greater autonomy and closer ties with France.
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