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« on: November 10, 2013, 01:26:42 PM »

According to you, who wins this match up? And what are the likely maps (before and after Election Day)
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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 01:48:58 PM »



This map?
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 02:30:56 PM »

Why would she ever pick McAuliffe?They're friends but she knows she can't win against a Christie/Martinez ticket with McAuliffe.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 02:33:31 PM »



I would say this. If McAuliffe is popular then VA might be Lean D but he couldn't really do much to help anywhere else. If it looks like Clinton is winning WI and NV might be Lean D and NC might be Tossup.

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« Reply #4 on: November 10, 2013, 03:39:50 PM »



Clinton/McAuliffe: 303
Christie/Martinez: 235
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 12:11:25 AM »

This is how the tickets will look and Christie will win. However, Christie does have other options like Rubio as a running mate.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2013, 12:17:36 AM »

McAuliffe wont even be on Hillary's shortlist. In fact I'm sure he is astute enough to tell her that.
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« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2013, 12:23:27 AM »

This is how the tickets will look and Christie will win. However, Christie does have other options like Rubio as a running mate.

Not after Rubio's poor performance in the Senate recently.
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« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2013, 12:26:07 AM »



Clinton/McAuliffe: 281
Christie/Martinez: 257

HOWEVER, the idea of McAuliffe being on Clinton's ticket is lunacy at worst.
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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2013, 01:14:03 PM »

This is how the tickets will look and Christie will win. However, Christie does have other options like Rubio as a running mate.

Not after Rubio's poor performance in the Senate recently.

It'll be fine because no one really looks at the bottom of the ticket. It's not even a top 25 issue. Records don't matter as much as rhetoric.
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« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2013, 07:44:02 PM »

This is how the tickets will look and Christie will win. However, Christie does have other options like Rubio as a running mate.

Not after Rubio's poor performance in the Senate recently.

It'll be fine because no one really looks at the bottom of the ticket. It's not even a top 25 issue. Records don't matter as much as rhetoric.



You sure?
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« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2013, 08:43:49 PM »

lol
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« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2013, 08:46:26 PM »

Holy Reagan an atlas forum poll is showing a republican and democrat tied, a poll with CLINTON in it.  Where are Hillary-merchandise-wearers now?
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« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2013, 09:49:46 PM »

Holy Reagan an atlas forum poll is showing a republican and democrat tied, a poll with CLINTON in it.  Where are Hillary-merchandise-wearers now?

I voted for Christie just because of McAuliffe's baggage. Of course this ticket will never happen so it doesn't matter.
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« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2013, 07:31:24 AM »

It depends on the state of the country. If there are new economic problems, or major Democratic policies are seen as failures, the Christie/ Martinez ticket would be pretty strong.



If the economy's doing well and Obamacare is seen as a success, Clinton will probably win at slightly less than Obama 2012 levels.



Why would she ever pick McAuliffe?They're friends but she knows she can't win against a Christie/Martinez ticket with McAuliffe.
Veep candidates rarely make a difference. McAuliffe would be a swing-state Governor who clearly has a good relationship with the Clintons. It avoids stories of how a Veep candidated is untested (McCain/ Palin), doesn't get along with the top of the ticket (Kerry/ Edwards) or may be the power behind the throne (Bush/ Cheney.)
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« Reply #15 on: November 14, 2013, 02:53:29 PM »

This is how the tickets will look and Christie will win. However, Christie does have other options like Rubio as a running mate.

Not after Rubio's poor performance in the Senate recently.

It'll be fine because no one really looks at the bottom of the ticket. It's not even a top 25 issue. Records don't matter as much as rhetoric.



You sure?

You think people outside of partisans cared about Palin one way or the other? Are you saying more Democrats would've voted for McCain if he picked Huckabee, Romney, or someone else?
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« Reply #16 on: November 14, 2013, 03:00:33 PM »

You think people outside of partisans cared about Palin one way or the other?
There are people who did base their decision on it.

Are you saying more Democrats would've voted for McCain if he picked Huckabee, Romney, or someone else?
It's possible.

And records still matter, that's why the last two Presidents had VPs who were older and more experienced than them.
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« Reply #17 on: November 14, 2013, 09:55:27 PM »

This is how the tickets will look and Christie will win. However, Christie does have other options like Rubio as a running mate.

Not after Rubio's poor performance in the Senate recently.

It'll be fine because no one really looks at the bottom of the ticket. It's not even a top 25 issue. Records don't matter as much as rhetoric.



You sure?

You think people outside of partisans cared about Palin one way or the other? Are you saying more Democrats would've voted for McCain if he picked Huckabee, Romney, or someone else?

Are you saying that her presence on the 2008 Republican ticket didn't negatively impact McCain's vote total in any way?
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« Reply #18 on: November 15, 2013, 01:10:06 AM »

It depends on the state of the country. If there are new economic problems, or major Democratic policies are seen as failures, the Christie/ Martinez ticket would be pretty strong.



If the economy's doing well and Obamacare is seen as a success, Clinton will probably win at slightly less than Obama 2012 levels.



Why would she ever pick McAuliffe?They're friends but she knows she can't win against a Christie/Martinez ticket with McAuliffe.
Veep candidates rarely make a difference. McAuliffe would be a swing-state Governor who clearly has a good relationship with the Clintons. It avoids stories of how a Veep candidated is untested (McCain/ Palin), doesn't get along with the top of the ticket (Kerry/ Edwards) or may be the power behind the throne (Bush/ Cheney.)

1) Don't expect Wisconsin to go Republican any time soon, baring a major economic collapse in the last three years of the Obama Presidency.
2) I know PA likes Christie, but there's no way it goes GOP in a healthy economy.
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« Reply #19 on: November 15, 2013, 01:21:32 AM »
« Edited: November 15, 2013, 01:35:36 AM by Illini142 »

Anyway, this is my early call.



Clinton: 275
Christie: 263
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« Reply #20 on: November 15, 2013, 03:29:32 AM »

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« Reply #21 on: November 15, 2013, 03:32:39 AM »



Here would be the battleground states.
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« Reply #22 on: November 15, 2013, 04:00:42 AM »

Toss Ups:

Iowa 49/50
Nevada 49/50
New Hampshire 49/50
Ohio 49/49

Battlegrounds:

Minnesota 47/52
Virginia 47/52
Colorado 49/51
Pennsylvania 51/49
Florida 51/49
New Jersey 51/48
North Carolina 52/48
New Mexico 52/47

States of Interest:

West Virginia 70/30
Kentucky 63/36
Tennessee 63/37
Missouri 60/39
Arkansas 64/36
Louisiana 58/42
Texas 60/40
Georgia 55/45
Indiana 58/41
South Dakota 64/35
Montana 63/37
Oregon 46/54
Washington 44/55
Maine 43/56
Michigan 45/55
Wisconsin 45/54
Illinois 46/54
New York 32/67
Delaware 46/53
Arizona 57/43
Alaska 56/43
Massachusetts 35/64
Connecticut 45/55
California 38/61
Hawaii 32/67
Utah 79/20
South Carolina 57/43
Oklahoma 68/31
Mississippi 55/45
Alabama 62/38

Other Clinton States:

Vermont
Rhode Island
Maryland
D.C.

Other Christie States:

Idaho
Wyoming
Kansas
Nebraska
North Dakota
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« Reply #23 on: November 15, 2013, 07:46:58 AM »

After Benghazi, Hillary is not as strong a candidate as she would have been before 2012 for 2016. Christie, by contrast, looks like a uniter and someone who puts people first, party second and that is what the public has been looking for.
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« Reply #24 on: November 15, 2013, 05:24:10 PM »

Assuming he can escape the primary with not too many injuries, I think Christie/Martinez would be the favored ticket here. As for Virginia, I think McAuliffe on the ticket would be much more of a liability than a positive for Clinton.



Christie wins, 289-249. Closest states: Wisconsin, Ohio, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Iowa
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