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« on: November 10, 2013, 02:55:21 PM »

This matchup to me is a bit more realistic, especially if Clinton actually picks McAuliffe.



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« Reply #1 on: November 10, 2013, 03:44:08 PM »



Clinton/McAuliffe: 324
Walker/Rubio: 214
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« Reply #2 on: November 10, 2013, 04:24:59 PM »

I could see this ending up 269-269:



That's probably a small Walker PV victory; a PV tie would probably have Hillary win at least OH on top of that map.
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« Reply #3 on: November 10, 2013, 04:51:59 PM »

I could see this ending up 269-269:



That's probably a small Walker PV victory; a PV tie would probably have Hillary win at least OH on top of that map.


More or less.

Such a selection would be a disaster for Democrats. Selecting McAuliffe will just paint Hillary in all sorts of bad light that she really doesn't need. Hopefully we'll keep it to just one corporate champion per ticket.
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« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2013, 12:18:32 PM »

McAuliffe's charisma carries the day and leads to an overwhelming landslide.
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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2013, 12:36:33 PM »

McAuliffe, unless he turns out to be the best Governor Virginia ever had, and personally saves drowning orphans, will never be Clinton's VP pick.
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« Reply #6 on: November 11, 2013, 01:15:54 PM »

I really don't think Walker would do well or even be the nominee.
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« Reply #7 on: November 12, 2013, 11:38:59 AM »

This matchup to me is a bit more realistic, especially if Clinton actually picks McAuliffe.




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« Reply #8 on: November 14, 2013, 07:24:00 AM »

The typical map would probably have Republicans flip Florida (which Romney lost by one point) and Wisconsin (where Walker will presumable have won two elections.)



Obviously, much would depend on the state on the country in three years. If things are bad, Clinton could lose in a McCain 2008 style landslide.

For the record, I don't think McAuliffe is a bad VP, as long as he's a reasonably popular Governor. He comes from a swing state, and it's likely to avoid stories about how the candidates on a national ticket don't know or like one another.
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« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2013, 05:18:59 AM »

The enthusiasm gap sinks the Clinton/McAuliffe ticket.

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« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2013, 01:21:40 PM »
« Edited: November 18, 2013, 07:58:06 AM by pbrower2a »

The typical map would probably have Republicans flip Florida (which Romney lost by one point) and Wisconsin (where Walker will presumable have won two elections.)




Obviously, much would depend on the state on the country in three years. If things are bad, Clinton could lose in a McCain 2008 style landslide.

For the record, I don't think McAuliffe is a bad VP, as long as he's a reasonably popular Governor. He comes from a swing state, and it's likely to avoid stories about how the candidates on a national ticket don't know or like one another.

Walker must win re-election in Wisconsin or he is out of consideration. If he can convince Wisconsin voters that they need pay cuts to create  jobs -- he is a national candidate. Rubio is a god-awful political hack. He would have a difficult time winning re-election in 2016. McAuliffe is unproved.  
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« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2013, 03:26:17 PM »

The enthusiasm gap sinks the Clinton/McAuliffe ticket.



Pennsylvania is Hillary turf. No way in hell would Walker beat her. Christie potentially could though.
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« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2013, 08:11:07 AM »
« Edited: November 19, 2013, 12:21:50 AM by pbrower2a »

Indeed I see no reason for Scott Walker to win any state that Barack Obama won in 2012 barring an economic meltdown as severe as 2007-2009 or a war going bad  (and time is running out for either to help Republicans; President Obama has not fostered a speculative boom, and he shows no proclivity to start wars). He's as much a d@mnyankee as Barack Obama, only a right-wing corporatist version who could put a few Southern states at risk of flipping. The most favorable  prediction that I could have for Scott Walker is that he loses like McCain in 2008 except trading Arizona, Georgia, and/or Missouri for Indiana. Wisconsin has no economic miracle to offer.
    

Walker has shown no sign of winning Wisconsin against Hillary Clinton in several polls.  


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« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2013, 08:06:56 PM »

The typical map would probably have Republicans flip Florida (which Romney lost by one point) and Wisconsin (where Walker will presumable have won two elections.)




Obviously, much would depend on the state on the country in three years. If things are bad, Clinton could lose in a McCain 2008 style landslide.

For the record, I don't think McAuliffe is a bad VP, as long as he's a reasonably popular Governor. He comes from a swing state, and it's likely to avoid stories about how the candidates on a national ticket don't know or like one another.

Walker must win re-election in Wisconsin or he is out of consideration. If he can convince Wisconsin voters that they need pay cuts to create  jobs -- he is a national candidate. Rubio is a god-awful political hack. He would have a difficult time winning re-election in 2016. McAuliffe is unproved.  
Slight mistake on my part.

I meant to say that Walker is expected to be reelected twice in Wisconsin (counting the special election as a reelection.) He'll presumably have won three statewide elections there.

I'd imagine Wisconsin would be quite elastic. If Walker's down five points in the popular vote, he could lose the state by ten. If he's up two points in the popular vote, he might win the state by five.
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« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2013, 08:48:30 PM »

Clinton would wipe the floor with Walker. He's an amateur.

And this "Clinton losing Pennsylvania" stuff is nonsense. She'll dramatically out-perform Obama there. Christie might win it, in a very good year, but the other Republicans won't.
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« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2013, 09:15:12 PM »

McAuliffe, unless he turns out to be the best Governor Virginia ever had, and personally saves drowning orphans, will never be Clinton's VP pick.

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I really don't think Walker would do well or even be the nominee.
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« Reply #16 on: November 19, 2013, 12:00:00 AM »

Hillary would take this one with ease IMO assuming all goes well for her. I know WV and AK are risky calls. Very high unionization in those states but perhaps I am overestimating the impact. Not sure.

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« Reply #17 on: November 19, 2013, 12:52:11 AM »

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