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« on: November 20, 2013, 10:04:09 am »

46-38 Christie/Clinton
47-44 Paul/Clinton
45-43 Ryan/Clinton
44-44 Cruz/Clinton

Do you approve or disapprove of the way Barack Obama is handling his job as President?

36-59 disapprove

From November 15 - 18, Quinnipiac University surveyed 1,206 registered voters with a margin of error of +/- 2.8 percentage points. Live interviewers call land lines and cell phones.

http://www.quinnipiac.edu/institutes-and-centers/polling-institute/colorado/release-detail?ReleaseID=1978
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« Reply #1 on: November 20, 2013, 10:05:27 am »

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Colorado voters say 48 - 29 percent that Christie would make a good president. The other contenders, including Clinton, don't have what it takes, voters say, ranging from a negative 46 - 49 percent for Clinton to a negative 24 - 66 percent for Vice President Joseph Biden.

"The race might be hypothetical, but the lead is very real. Coloradans showing the love for Garden State Gov. Christopher Christie, who for the first time in running well ahead of Hillary Clinton," said Tim Malloy, assistant director of the Quinnipiac University Polling Institute.

"Right now, Colorado voters say Gov. Christie is the only contender who would make a good president."
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« Reply #2 on: November 20, 2013, 10:05:51 am »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?
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« Reply #3 on: November 20, 2013, 10:06:54 am »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

Yes this, plus CO's hatred with the Clintons.

But nonetheless, those numbers are pretty bad for her (and Obama).
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« Reply #4 on: November 20, 2013, 10:07:55 am »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

Yes this, plus CO's hatred with the Clintons.

But nonetheless, those numbers are pretty bad for her.

I'm not sure it really matters in the end though, if we're winning Colorado, but losing states like Arkansas. 
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« Reply #5 on: November 20, 2013, 10:22:42 am »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

This is interesting, yeah.

Because PPP will release a poll today which shows Cruz just 2 points ahead of Clinton in Mississippi.

Of course, the fact that MS is relatively poor might help Hillary there (also among poorer/middle-class Whites (women), which were probably reluctant to vote for Obama).
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« Reply #6 on: November 20, 2013, 11:04:42 am »

Quinnipiac has gotten to be a joke lately.
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« Reply #7 on: November 20, 2013, 11:56:11 am »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

There is a profound conservative renaissance in Colorado that the rest of the country is just getting wind of.
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« Reply #8 on: November 20, 2013, 11:58:53 am »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

There is a profound conservative renaissance in Colorado that the rest of the country is just getting wind of.

Did somebody just set their watch to 1994?
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« Reply #9 on: November 20, 2013, 12:01:14 pm »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

There is a profound conservative renaissance in Colorado that the rest of the country is just getting wind of.

Did somebody just set their watch to 1994?
No, it's called CO getting tired of left wing politics and stride to be back in the center as the state is clearly purple.
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« Reply #10 on: November 20, 2013, 12:16:00 pm »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

There is a profound conservative renaissance in Colorado that the rest of the country is just getting wind of.

Did somebody just set their watch to 1994?

Quinnipiac says that Obama's 36 percent approval rating is the lowest that he has gotten on any if its polls. Anywhere. Ever. That is probably indicative of the fact  that a lot of folks just badly misread Colorado.
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« Reply #11 on: November 20, 2013, 12:18:43 pm »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

There is a profound conservative renaissance in Colorado that the rest of the country is just getting wind of.

Did somebody just set their watch to 1994?

Quinnipiac says that Obama's 36 percent approval rating is the lowest that he has gotten on any if its polls. Anywhere. Ever. That is probably indicative of the fact  that a lot of folks just badly misread Colorado.

I didn't misread the fact that several places in Colorado just voted to ban fracking.
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« Reply #12 on: November 20, 2013, 01:58:54 pm »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

There is a profound conservative renaissance in Colorado that the rest of the country is just getting wind of.

Did somebody just set their watch to 1994?

Quinnipiac says that Obama's 36 percent approval rating is the lowest that he has gotten on any if its polls. Anywhere. Ever. That is probably indicative of the fact  that a lot of folks just badly misread Colorado.

I didn't misread the fact that several places in Colorado just voted to ban fracking.

Yes, three, and the fourth us being recoubted.  None i
of which have much fracking going on--if any at all. They were largely symbolic protest votes, and occured in liberal cities like collegiate Boulder and Fort Collins. This poll actually shows a majority if Coloradans supporting fracking. In a delicious twist of irony, the liberal governor has threatened to sue any city that bans fracking, which has hurt him with the Democratic base.
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« Reply #13 on: November 20, 2013, 02:05:30 pm »

The Clintons were never good in Colorado. This state is like the reverse of Arkansas for Hillary.
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« Reply #14 on: November 20, 2013, 02:09:37 pm »

why have the Clintons had trouble in Colorado?
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« Reply #15 on: November 20, 2013, 02:18:26 pm »

Guys, it's a bad poll. Ted Cruz is still Ted Cruz and Hillary Clinton is still one of the most popular politicians in the country.
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« Reply #16 on: November 20, 2013, 02:23:51 pm »

Guys, it's a bad poll. Ted Cruz is still Ted Cruz and Hillary Clinton is still one of the most popular politicians in the country.

Besides, Quinnipiac was showing the Republicans overperforming in Colorado even before the strange drop in Obama's numbers recently.

Also, didn't Quinnipiac show Romney winning last year?
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« Reply #17 on: November 20, 2013, 02:58:27 pm »

Yeah. This is about where Obama was in CO in terms of job approval this time in 2009.
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« Reply #18 on: November 20, 2013, 03:56:26 pm »

Cruz is TIED with Clinton? Wtf.  Either this poll is wrong, or there is good news for Republicans in Colorado.  Then again, doesn't CO usually have Republican leaning polls this far out?

There is a profound conservative renaissance in Colorado that the rest of the country is just getting wind of.

Did somebody just set their watch to 1994?

Quinnipiac says that Obama's 36 percent approval rating is the lowest that he has gotten on any if its polls. Anywhere. Ever. That is probably indicative of the fact  that a lot of folks just badly misread Colorado.

Quinnipiac polls only Northeastern and swing states.  Barack Obama is way down in the polls for now, and probably as low as he will ever get. This is what one can expect when the President's approval rating is around 40%. It does not poll any former-Confederate states except Florida and Virginia. Just imagine how low its approvals of President Obama would be from Texas or Alabama. PPP has polled such states as Idaho, Utah, and Wyoming.

There's some question of whether President Obama will take the Democratic party down with him... and of course whether President Obama will stay down in the polls. He was in roughly the same territory about three and a half years ago before the 2010 Tea Party election. His approvals returned to about 50% before the 2012 election.

...Is there some 'profound conservative revival' in Colorado, let alone nationwide?  I doubt it. PPP just released a poll of Mississippi, a profoundly-conservative state culturally and otherwise (only 22% of the electorate would approve of the legalization of same-sex marriage). Hillary Clinton has no reasonable chance of winning the state, but she is not down by the 20% or so margins that President Obama lost by. The Colorado Right is very loud. The Democratic Senator (Udall) up for re-election in 2016 isn't in obvious danger, and Governor Hickenlooper is afloat.
 
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« Reply #19 on: November 20, 2013, 04:01:05 pm »

Bill Clinton won 70% of the electoral college vote in 1996.  Colorado was in the 30%.
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« Reply #20 on: November 20, 2013, 07:35:37 pm »

It's called CO getting tired of left wing politics and stride to be back in the center as the state is clearly purple.
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« Reply #21 on: November 20, 2013, 07:48:33 pm »

Christie and Hillary may well both be paper tigers, so they could cancel each other out. Nevertheless, she's an awful fit for the state.
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« Reply #22 on: November 20, 2013, 08:24:41 pm »

why have the Clintons had trouble in Colorado?

I don't live in Colorado nor am I a political geography expert, but my best guess is that Colorado is simply following the Western anti-establishment/pro-libertarian streak of the Democratic Party.  A 2008 Hillary vs. Christie map will be very interesting, especially the swing map.
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« Reply #23 on: November 20, 2013, 08:37:20 pm »

Some of the weighting is questionable. Sure, Christie is a strong fit in CO but Hillary will not lose the state if she loses whites by only 10. Obama lost them 54-44 and won by over 5. Q has been somewhat GOP biased in Colorado for awhile, kind of interesting but their previous polls back this up. That said, Hillary may have friendlier terrain in VA and FL.
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« Reply #24 on: November 20, 2013, 08:53:14 pm »

So apparently Mississippi is now only two points more Republican than Colorado.

One (or both) of these polls are dead wrong.
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