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« on: December 09, 2013, 02:50:04 pm »

Chris Christie .................................................. 46%
Hillary Clinton.................................................. 39%

Rand Paul ....................................................... 47%
Hillary Clinton.................................................. 45%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Ted Cruz ......................................................... 45%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 47%
Jeb Bush......................................................... 43%

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Do you think same-sex marriage should be allowed, or not?

It should be allowed ........................................ 53%
It should not .................................................... 39%

In general, do you think marijuana usage should be legal or illegal?

Legal............................................................... 53%
Illegal .............................................................. 38%

Would you support or oppose raising the minimum wage to $10 an hour?

Support ........................................................... 56%
Oppose ........................................................... 33%

http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/pdf/2013/PPP_Release_CO_120913.pdf
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« Reply #1 on: December 09, 2013, 02:51:12 pm »

CO's hatefest with the Clintons continue (especially with her).
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« Reply #2 on: December 09, 2013, 02:54:12 pm »

That's certainly odd. It's almost like an inverse PUMA effect, it seems.

This gives some hope for SSM advocates, though.
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« Reply #3 on: December 09, 2013, 04:13:11 pm »

Very Republican sample at 47-46 Obama-Romney, though.
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« Reply #4 on: December 09, 2013, 04:15:58 pm »

LOL at how far Hillary runs behind pot, gay marriage, and $10 an hour minimum wage.
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« Reply #5 on: December 09, 2013, 05:05:00 pm »

Very Republican sample at 47-46 Obama-Romney, though.

VERY Republican sample.

We need our own unskewer just for PPP because they make this same mistake so much.
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« Reply #6 on: December 09, 2013, 05:14:34 pm »

You gotta love how voters say they agree with the Democratic position on every issue polled, then say they're going to vote Republican anyway.
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« Reply #7 on: December 09, 2013, 06:15:23 pm »

Very Republican sample at 47-46 Obama-Romney, though.

This could be a 'likely voters' poll.
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« Reply #8 on: December 09, 2013, 06:23:11 pm »

Very Republican sample at 47-46 Obama-Romney, though.

VERY Republican sample.

We need our own unskewer just for PPP because they make this same mistake so much.

So when Republicans talk about skewed polls, we're wrong? Let's stop with the "all these polls are wrong" stuff. The Obama coalition was comprised of voters who had not previously been known for turning out to the polls in big numbers. It is quite possible that Obama's absence from the ticket could revert us to turnout models that are less-favourable for the Dems.
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« Reply #9 on: December 09, 2013, 06:24:51 pm »

I can't wait until 2016 when Christie's cruel position on medical marijuana is made clear and known to the voters.
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« Reply #10 on: December 09, 2013, 06:26:52 pm »

It is quite possible that Obama's absence from the ticket could revert us to turnout models that are less-favourable for the Dems.

Or less favorable to the Dems in states like Colorado while more favorable in states like Kentucky.  The map doesn't have to look the same as 2008 or 2012, even if Clinton wins, since Clinton is not Obama.

At present, the most recent polling has Christie leading Clinton in PA and CO, while losing to her in FL and AR.  Not sure that will hold up, but it would be a fun map.
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« Reply #11 on: December 09, 2013, 06:44:42 pm »

Freedom State.
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« Reply #12 on: December 09, 2013, 06:50:10 pm »

Freedom State.

Indeed. Bush is the most behind.
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« Reply #13 on: December 09, 2013, 07:27:01 pm »

You gotta love how voters say they agree with the Democratic position on every issue polled, then say they're going to vote Republican anyway.

Christie vetoed these very three issues too:

http://www.nytimes.com/2012/02/18/nyregion/christie-vetoes-gay-marriage-bill.html

http://thinkprogress.org/economy/2013/01/28/1505761/new-jersey-governor-vetos-minimum-wage-increase/

http://news.nuggetry.com/medical-marijuana/chris-christie-will-veto-medical-marijuana-expansion-bill-in-new-jersey/
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« Reply #14 on: December 09, 2013, 07:45:40 pm »

It's midterm voters so its a bit GOP skewed for 2016..obviously Hillary will dump millions into this state. Remember NH looked like it was R+5 before Romney won the GOP primary there, states tend to revert to normal once the campaign comes. That said, CO has more white voters for the GOP to grab whereas places like FL they've more or less started to max out.
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« Reply #15 on: December 09, 2013, 07:52:25 pm »

How exactly does the GOP win Colorado big without doing any better with whites than last year? http://www.cnn.com/election/2012/results/state/CO/president#exit-polls

Considering the Dems edge with Latino voters, I'm skeptical in the small subsamples showing non-Christie repubs with 44%
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« Reply #16 on: December 09, 2013, 08:21:21 pm »

The gender gap is big.  A 26 point differential between the sexes on Christie vs. Clinton, and a whopping 33 point differential for Paul vs. Clinton:

Christie vs. Clinton:
men: Christie +20
women: Clinton +6

Paul vs. Clinton:
men: Paul +19
women: Clinton +14

Christie vs. Clinton by age:
18-45: Christie +2
46-65: Christie +9
65+: Christie +13

Also, looks like Republicans are a bit more likely to be football fans than Dems.  Have we seen that in other polls?
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« Reply #17 on: December 09, 2013, 10:04:51 pm »

You gotta love how voters say they agree with the Democratic position on every issue polled, then say they're going to vote Republican anyway.

Hah I know right? 

Freedom State.

Indeed. Bush is the most behind.

I  enjoy your dislike of the Bush, but possibly for different reasons.  I've noticed a few of your posts stating your disapproval of him.  Mind if I ask why that is?  Just a bit curious is all.
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« Reply #18 on: December 09, 2013, 10:39:01 pm »
« Edited: December 09, 2013, 10:41:36 pm by Indeed »

You gotta love how voters say they agree with the Democratic position on every issue polled, then say they're going to vote Republican anyway.

Hah I know right?  

Freedom State.

Indeed. Bush is the most behind.

I  enjoy your dislike of the Bush, but possibly for different reasons.  I've noticed a few of your posts stating your disapproval of him.  Mind if I ask why that is?  Just a bit curious is all.

People want a liberal, but not a pointy-haired know it all? But I digress. It seems that like the people they represent (preachers and big money), it just seems that Republican politicians seem to be always be one step ahead of Democrats in being smooth. Does Liberal == akward?
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« Reply #19 on: December 09, 2013, 11:14:52 pm »

CO does look like it could have an R PVI though. Doubt more than R+1 or 2 in the end. Not that Dems wouldn't trade CO for FL in a second.
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« Reply #20 on: December 10, 2013, 02:08:54 am »

You gotta love how voters say they agree with the Democratic position on every issue polled, then say they're going to vote Republican anyway.

Hah I know right? 

Freedom State.

Indeed. Bush is the most behind.

I  enjoy your dislike of the Bush, but possibly for different reasons.  I've noticed a few of your posts stating your disapproval of him.  Mind if I ask why that is?  Just a bit curious is all.

I have a general disdain for the Bush's, who are a bunch of lying sacks of sheiss (with H.W. and W. being terrible Presidents, almost objectively), and Jeb strikes me as a "Serious Person" that the media takes seriously in spite of huge flaws (like flip flopping on his totem pole issue).
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« Reply #21 on: December 10, 2013, 02:10:18 am »

You gotta love how voters say they agree with the Democratic position on every issue polled, then say they're going to vote Republican anyway.

Hah I know right? 

Freedom State.

Indeed. Bush is the most behind.

I  enjoy your dislike of the Bush, but possibly for different reasons.  I've noticed a few of your posts stating your disapproval of him.  Mind if I ask why that is?  Just a bit curious is all.

I have a general disdain for the Bush's, who are a bunch of lying sacks of sheiss (with H.W. and W. being terrible Presidents, almost objectively), and Jeb strikes me as a "Serious Person" that the media takes seriously in spite of huge flaws (like flip flopping on his totem pole issue).

The Bushes are America's biggest crime family.
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« Reply #22 on: December 10, 2013, 03:05:36 am »

As of now, Lean R if Christie vs. Hillary, Toss-up with anybody else.
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« Reply #23 on: December 10, 2013, 01:06:04 pm »

As of now, Lean R if Christie vs. Hillary, Toss-up with anybody else.

Probably this. 
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« Reply #24 on: December 10, 2013, 01:17:40 pm »

Hilary would win this state against even the fat man.  Remember, folks, Colorado always polls much more R than it actually votes.
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