8th Pacific Council Legislation Introduction and Discussion Thread

[PJ]

Like the last council, all previous bills that were not debated in the 7th will be debated and passed or failed here because I said so. This won't apply if the sponsor is no longer an officeholder.

I will also be keeping track of all our current bills here.

Bills on the floor:
1. Pacific Budget 2014 (Waiting on Feds)
2. Great Reform Amendment (New Amendment Introduced)
3. Rural Housing Act (Debating)
4. Small Business Start-Up Loan Act (Debating)
5. A Long Overdue Resolution Concerning Canadian Provinces (Final Vote)

Bills in the Queue:
1. Resolution Concerning The Amount of Legislation in the Pacific Council
2. Constitutional Protect Our Forests Act
3.  Executive Order Restriction Act
4. End of Session Act
5. Pacific Vital Civic Information Thread Act
6. Non-Reusable Bag Act
7. Alcohol Restriction Loosening Act
8. Autonomous Vehicle Legalization Act
9. Honesty in DNA Sequencing Act
10.  Fix Genetically Modified Products Act
11. Be Safe When You Drive Act
12. Be Fair Towards Students Act
13. Let's Be Technological, Environmental, and Cool Act
14. Fairness in Election Funding Act
15. False Emergency Signals Are Bad Act
16. 2nd AIDS Prevention Act Funding Extension
17. An Act to Prevent That Guy From Yelling "Fire!" in a Crowded Theater
18. Repeal of the Pacific Protection of Commerce in Arms Act
19. Clean Slate Act
20. A Long Overdue Resolution Concerning Canadian Provinces
21. Small Business Start-Up Loan Act
22. 2nd Transgender Protection Act
23. The People's Courthouse Act
24. Age of Consent Bill
25. The Constitutional Get Your Kids Involved in School Act
26. The Constitutional We'll Miss You Act
27. Telecommunication Investment Encouragement Act
28. Amendment to the Bartelomé Day Act
29. Accordance with Federal DUI Laws Act

[PJ]

I also request that the Repeal of the Pacific for the Children Act of 2006 be moved up in the queue. I will provide text for these bills when I have more time.

[DemPGH]

I'm not sure what the status is here, but 2.4 of the Third Pacific Const. says this:

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So you could appoint any of the folks in the election if they wanted to join us. We certainly have vacancies. Then if and when we're up and running, I'll just pick up where we left off and bump some of those threads.

I'd also like to be confirmed as Speaker if no one else wants it - we should probably do that.

[PJ]

Okay, I second your nomination for Speaker. I need to discuss the lawsuit with Tyrion, but I believe BK already ruled on this matter, specifying that we our currently a body of 3 councillors. I'm currently searching for candidates.

[President Tyrion]

Okay, I second your nomination for Speaker. I need to discuss the lawsuit with Tyrion, but I believe BK already ruled on this matter, specifying that we our currently a body of 3 councillors. I'm currently searching for candidates.

Sorry, I'm in the middle of a throe of finals. I'll type up a nice brief soon.

[PJ]

Okay, I second your nomination for Speaker. I need to discuss the lawsuit with Tyrion, but I believe BK already ruled on this matter, specifying that we our currently a body of 3 councillors. I'm currently searching for candidates.

Sorry, I'm in the middle of a throe of finals. I'll type up a nice brief soon.

Yeah me too.

[PJ]

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I motion to move this amendment to the top of the queue.

[DemPGH]

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I motion to move this amendment to the top of the queue.

Done. Not sure about clogging or the state of the Council right now, so I'll hold off for the moment. I think IF we have the people to pass it, we can just pass it, and then get to the stuff that's tailed off.

I sympathize with the necessity of your exec order, but am worried about how that could be abused in other circumstances. I wish we could build an argument that says that this is a really unique situation, and admit that beyond that it would be unconstitutional, but I'm not sure how to do that yet.

[PJ]

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I motion to move this amendment to the top of the queue.

Done. Not sure about clogging or the state of the Council right now, so I'll hold off for the moment. I think IF we have the people to pass it, we can just pass it, and then get to the stuff that's tailed off.

I sympathize with the necessity of your exec order, but am worried about how that could be abused in other circumstances. I wish we could build an argument that says that this is a really unique situation, and admit that beyond that it would be unconstitutional, but I'm not sure how to do that yet.

That's why I introduced the Executive Order Restriction Act. I don't really believe that it's unconstitutional in its current form.

[PJ]

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[PJ]

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These were bills recently passed in the Midwest, and their unemployment rate has recently dropped. We are in desperate need of these bills here in the Pacific.

[Flake]

Do we even have an annual budget?

[PJ]

Do we even have an annual budget?

It's an awful budget, but here it is. https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Budget_FY2013

[DemPGH]

Okay, how do we want to proceed? Do we want to change to three councillor or just proceed under the ruling until things pick up or we are consolidated? I think the ruling gives us a lot of leeway.

Then, do we want to bump some of those threads - I know a couple of them I have started votes on, so I guess it will be Flo and me (they are now, I think, toward the bottom of page 2). I would say that we need 2 of 3 votes to pass anything, which would be Flo and me.

[PJ]

Okay, how do we want to proceed? Do we want to change to three councillor or just proceed under the ruling until things pick up or we are consolidated? I think the ruling gives us a lot of leeway.

Then, do we want to bump some of those threads - I know a couple of them I have started votes on, so I guess it will be Flo and me (they are now, I think, toward the bottom of page 2). I would say that we need 2 of 3 votes to pass anything, which would be Flo and me.

I think we need a new thread for the Great Reform Amendment; the original one was getting too long. It should be of note that the current text for that amendment is not in the OP. The other ones should be fine to be bumped. First, we need to vote on the Fix the Council Amendment, so we can actually be a legitimate body.

[Bacon King]

Where can one find the RACO and can it be added to the wiki? I can get around to adding it if you link me to the text and amendments but it might be a while

[PJ]

Where can one find the RACO and can it be added to the wiki? I can get around to adding it if you link me to the text and amendments but it might be a while

All statute is already added to the wiki. Here is the statute page. RACO was passed under Governor Spamage's 2nd term. https://uselectionatlas.org/AFEWIKI/index.php/Pacific_Statute

[Flake]

(in the wiki page could my name please be Flo instead of the name I chose in 2011?)

[PJ]

(in the wiki page could my name please be Flo instead of the name I chose in 2011?)

Okay, but I'm not sure how to link you to your wiki page under the name Flo.

[Flake]

(in the wiki page could my name please be Flo instead of the name I chose in 2011?)

Okay, but I'm not sure how to link you to your wiki page under the name Flo.

[[Flo]] would work! Both names link to the Flo page

[PJ]

(in the wiki page could my name please be Flo instead of the name I chose in 2011?)

Okay, but I'm not sure how to link you to your wiki page under the name Flo.

[[Flo]] would work! Both names link to the Flo page

Okay, great! I will do that for all future voting records.

[PJ]

Here's the Pacific Budget so far. It's still in progress.

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[DemPGH]

Before I call for a vote on the Fix the Council Amendment I would like to be installed formally as Speaker. It appears to require a majority. So I'll nominate myself for Speaker.

If we can do it here, the vote is Yes. We don't need a thread for that, do we?

[PJ]

Before I call for a vote on the Fix the Council Amendment I would like to be installed formally as Speaker. It appears to require a majority. So I'll nominate myself for Speaker.

If we can do it here, the vote is Yes. We don't need a thread for that, do we?

We can do it here.

[Flake]

Why do we only have one discussion thread open?