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« on: December 18, 2013, 01:20:37 pm »

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 42%
Chris Christie .................................................. 45%

Joe Biden........................................................ 35%
Chris Christie .................................................. 49%

Howard Dean.................................................. 29%
Chris Christie .................................................. 51%

John Kerry ...................................................... 35%
Chris Christie .................................................. 46%

Elizabeth Warren ............................................ 33%
Chris Christie .................................................. 49%

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Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Rand Paul ....................................................... 43%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Mike Huckabee ............................................... 42%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 49%
Ted Cruz ......................................................... 41%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Jeb Bush......................................................... 43%

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/12/christie-leads-both-democratic-and-gop-fields.html#more
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« Reply #1 on: December 18, 2013, 01:57:47 pm »

How is this possible? The guy is nothing but a self-righteous blowhard.
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« Reply #2 on: December 18, 2013, 02:03:19 pm »

Please run, Dean.
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« Reply #3 on: December 18, 2013, 02:10:58 pm »

How is this possible? The guy is nothing but a self-righteous blowhard.

Well, Christie just got out of a landslide reelection victory and Hillary hasn't been in the news much lately.  This isn't good news for Hillary, but this is not totally unexpected either.
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« Reply #4 on: December 18, 2013, 02:26:41 pm »

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 42%
Chris Christie .................................................. 45%

Joe Biden........................................................ 35%
Chris Christie .................................................. 49%

Howard Dean.................................................. 29%
Chris Christie .................................................. 51%

John Kerry ...................................................... 35%
Chris Christie .................................................. 46%

Elizabeth Warren ............................................ 33%
Chris Christie .................................................. 49%

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Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Rand Paul ....................................................... 43%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Mike Huckabee ............................................... 42%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 49%
Ted Cruz ......................................................... 41%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Jeb Bush......................................................... 43%

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/12/christie-leads-both-democratic-and-gop-fields.html#more

Ehem, does anyone actually view John Kerry as a possible contender in 2016?
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« Reply #5 on: December 18, 2013, 03:39:41 pm »

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 42%
Chris Christie .................................................. 45%

Joe Biden........................................................ 35%
Chris Christie .................................................. 49%

Howard Dean.................................................. 29%
Chris Christie .................................................. 51%

John Kerry ...................................................... 35%
Chris Christie .................................................. 46%

Elizabeth Warren ............................................ 33%
Chris Christie .................................................. 49%

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Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Rand Paul ....................................................... 43%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Mike Huckabee ............................................... 42%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 49%
Ted Cruz ......................................................... 41%

Hillary Clinton.................................................. 48%
Jeb Bush......................................................... 43%

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http://www.publicpolicypolling.com/main/2013/12/christie-leads-both-democratic-and-gop-fields.html#more

Ehem, does anyone actually view John Kerry as a possible contender in 2016?

Assuming the Iran deal works out well, he'd have credentials to boast on. But I still think he's a MAJOR long-shot.
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« Reply #6 on: December 18, 2013, 03:49:35 pm »

Question raised by this is: Just how much stronger is Clinton running than the "Generic Democrat"? Is Biden's performance in general polls on par with "Generic Democrat"?
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« Reply #7 on: December 18, 2013, 03:50:43 pm »

LOLZ PPP IS A DEMOCRAT HACK POLL!1!1!!!

Seriously though, these numbers worry me now. I'm now praying for the far-right to destroy Christie in some way.
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« Reply #8 on: December 18, 2013, 03:54:23 pm »

LOLZ PPP IS A DEMOCRAT HACK POLL!1!1!!!

Seriously though, these numbers worry me now. I'm now praying for the far-right to destroy Christie in some way.

It's a three-point lead and the election is still three years away...
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« Reply #9 on: December 18, 2013, 04:16:49 pm »

LOLZ PPP IS A DEMOCRAT HACK POLL!1!1!!!

Seriously though, these numbers worry me now. I'm now praying for the far-right to destroy Christie in some way.

It's a three-point lead and the election is still three years away...
Very true, but her numbers against other R's are kinda concerning and AFAIK Clinton has better name rec than Christie does (I could be wrong though).
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« Reply #10 on: December 18, 2013, 05:29:00 pm »

LOLZ PPP IS A DEMOCRAT HACK POLL!1!1!!!

Seriously though, these numbers worry me now. I'm now praying for the far-right to destroy Christie in some way.

It's a three-point lead and the election is still three years away...
Very true, but her numbers against other R's are kinda concerning and AFAIK Clinton has better name rec than Christie does (I could be wrong though).

Her fav/unfav #s here are 47/45%, while his are 43/31%, so yes, she has better name recognition.
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« Reply #11 on: December 18, 2013, 05:31:55 pm »

fav/unfav #s:

Christie 43/31% for +12%
Huckabee 38/35% for +3%
Clinton 47/45% for +2%
Warren 23/27% for -4%
Paul 34/39% for -5%
Kerry 36/44% for -8%
Bush 31/41% for -10%
Biden 38/49% for -11%
Cruz 26/40% for -14%
Dean 18/41% for -23%
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« Reply #12 on: December 18, 2013, 05:32:10 pm »

We'll see how he polls after he veers right in the primaries. And  the only reason Christie is polling well is that he's getting so much support from Democrats and blacks.
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« Reply #13 on: December 18, 2013, 06:04:50 pm »

LOLZ PPP IS A DEMOCRAT HACK POLL!1!1!!!

Seriously though, these numbers worry me now. I'm now praying for the far-right to destroy Christie in some way.

Don't worry, even if Christie gets the nomination, he'll be covered in bile from the far right and will not look nearly as appealing as he does now.

This poll is also using a 2014 electorate, whereas 2016 will be a presidential year with higher turnout.
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« Reply #14 on: December 18, 2013, 06:12:39 pm »

The gender gap in this poll is unreal:

Men:
Christie 56%
Clinton 32%
(24 point Christie lead)

Women:
Clinton 51%
Christie 36%
(15 point Clinton lead)

So a 39 point gender gap between men and women.  The all time record for a presidential election in modern times is just 20 points, but many of the "Clinton vs. X" polls we've seen for 2016 show a 30 point+ gender gap.
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« Reply #15 on: December 18, 2013, 06:14:28 pm »

Look at those Hillary favorability ratings crumble.

BUT DON'T WORRY! She has a landslide victory wrapped up for her. Some people on the Internets said so.
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« Reply #16 on: December 18, 2013, 06:21:52 pm »

Here's the trendline for polls from all pollsters (except excluding internet polls like Yougov, which otherwise dominate the statistics) on Hillary Clinton's favorability:


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« Reply #17 on: December 18, 2013, 10:10:24 pm »

<bandit>Once again PPP has too many Romney voters in its poll.</bandit>
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« Reply #18 on: December 18, 2013, 10:22:26 pm »

LOLZ PPP IS A DEMOCRAT HACK POLL!1!1!!!

Seriously though, these numbers worry me now. I'm now praying for the far-right to destroy Christie in some way.
It won't be the far right that destroys him, but it will be Christie's Governing nature that will destroy him. I just don't think Christie is going to appeal to Democrats in New Jersey, Pennsylvania, Iowa and wherever else 3 years from now with the BS he's already pulling post-election. Plus NJ's approval of him will probably downgrade as he continues to be the veto king of the Garden State.

Huntsman is really the only way Republicans can win the Presidency in 2016 and also Rand Paul in the case that Hillary doesn't run. Christie just isn't Presidential material and his boost from the Obama/Christie connection and the Sandy aid will ware off within the next year. Trust me, he won't win.
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« Reply #19 on: December 18, 2013, 11:16:45 pm »

<bandit>Once again PPP has too many Romney voters in its poll.</bandit>

In a 2014 poll, that's expected due to lower turnout. But in a 2016 election, having too many Romney voters is indeed a problem.
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« Reply #20 on: December 19, 2013, 03:22:39 am »

Remember when America's Mayor was crushing Hillary and the other Democrats in 2007?
Fun Times.
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« Reply #21 on: December 19, 2013, 04:00:41 am »

Christie favorability/unfavorability by party:
Dems: 38/36 for +2%
GOP: 48/26 for +22%
Indies: 46/28 for +18%

Clinton favorability/unfavorability by party:
Dems: 83/11 for +72%
GOP: 14/78 for -64%
Indies: 34/55 for -21%

Christie vs. Clinton by party:
Dems: Clinton +71%
GOP: Christie +76%
Indies: Christie +23%

Christie vs. Clinton by race:
whites: Christie +21%
blacks: Clinton +75%
Hispanics: Clinton +24%
other: Clinton +18%

Christie vs. Clinton by age:
18-29: Clinton +16
30-45: Christie +1
46-65: Christie +6
65+: Christie +13
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« Reply #22 on: December 19, 2013, 04:11:19 am »

LOLZ PPP IS A DEMOCRAT HACK POLL!1!1!!!

Seriously though, these numbers worry me now. I'm now praying for the far-right to destroy Christie in some way.

I'm sure there's some unskew the polls moron who thinks that because this is PPP, Christie must be up more than 22 points over Dean.
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« Reply #23 on: December 19, 2013, 04:37:17 am »

LOLZ PPP IS A DEMOCRAT HACK POLL!1!1!!!

Seriously though, these numbers worry me now. I'm now praying for the far-right to destroy Christie in some way.

It's a three-point lead and the election is still three years away...

Yeah, but let's face it: the whole point of being "Ready for Hillary" is so that 2016 is a cake-walk to a third consecutive Democratic term in the White House. Otherwise, she loses a good amount of appeal.

I could totally go for Kerry 2.0 if she continues to weaken. She better make up her mind pretty fast - if she's running, I think we'll know within the next 12-14 months.
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« Reply #24 on: December 19, 2013, 08:18:53 am »

Remember when America's Mayor was crushing Hillary and the other Democrats in 2007?
Fun Times.


Oh, now you're saying that. Ok. Never heard that snark when she was cruising before.
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