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« Reply #25 on: January 03, 2014, 05:09:16 pm »

Didn't you say the only reason Kerry lost KY was because of voter fraud?

He lost the whole election because of fraud.
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« Reply #26 on: January 03, 2014, 05:11:04 pm »

Didn't you say the only reason Kerry lost KY was because of voter fraud?

He lost the whole election because of fraud.
Why did I even bother arguing against you? Tongue
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« Reply #27 on: January 03, 2014, 05:11:34 pm »

Didn't you say the only reason Kerry lost KY was because of voter fraud?

He lost the whole election because of fraud.

Debatable. But I asked about KY, which voted Bush 60-40.
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« Reply #28 on: January 03, 2014, 05:42:22 pm »

Not surprising. Closer is better in states like these, in order to ebb the bleeding at a local level.
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« Reply #29 on: January 03, 2014, 05:46:26 pm »

Think of it this way: The Republicans have gotten so bad under the Tea Party, that why wouldn't they lose support?
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« Reply #30 on: January 03, 2014, 05:55:04 pm »

Clinton has been losing ground in the Kentucky polls, and we're still years away from the election. As 2016 draws nearer, her chances of winning Kentucky are shrinking.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Statewide_opinion_polling_for_the_United_States_presidential_election,_2016#Kentucky

Honestly, this is like a Republican saying that their candidate will win Rhode Island.
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« Reply #31 on: January 03, 2014, 08:31:33 pm »

You know there won't be enough deaths by 2016. You must be joking if you think Kentucky will actually do Democratic in the next election. Wait until the 2020 election for that.

Uh, Hillary is already beating Ted Cruz in that poll.

But it's doubtful he'll be the nominee, unfortunately.

Only against Cruz or a joke candidate (like Carson, Trump, etc.) could Clinton win KY.
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« Reply #32 on: January 03, 2014, 08:34:58 pm »

Only against Cruz or a joke candidate (like Carson, Trump, etc.) could Clinton win KY.

But since the GOP is a joke party, Clinton could win KY anyway.
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« Reply #33 on: January 03, 2014, 08:40:00 pm »
« Edited: January 03, 2014, 08:43:43 pm by IceSpear »

Only against Cruz or a joke candidate (like Carson, Trump, etc.) could Clinton win KY.

But since the GOP is a joke party, Clinton could win KY anyway.

We'll see. I think Grimes will need a pretty solid victory in the Senate race (5+ points) before I consider it possible that KY could vote for Hillary. If McConnell wins or it's very close, definitely no chance.

It's a young, attractive statewide elected official with Kentucky roots vs. an old career politician dinosaur with a 31% approval rating. If they can't break with their recent GOP trend for that race, they never will.
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« Reply #34 on: January 03, 2014, 08:42:22 pm »

Didn't you say the only reason Kerry lost KY was because of voter fraud?

He lost the whole election because of fraud.

Oh yeah, totally.
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« Reply #35 on: January 03, 2014, 08:54:36 pm »

Clinton will not even be contesting this state and if Paul is the nominee anyway she will have no trouble winning.
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« Reply #36 on: January 04, 2014, 01:56:34 am »
« Edited: January 04, 2014, 01:58:29 am by Tender Branson »

Why do you post this again ?

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=184307.0

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« Reply #37 on: January 04, 2014, 10:42:32 am »

If anything, Kerry lost Ohio due to electoral fraud as the R pols made sure to put plenty of voting machines in R-friendly districts and too few in D-friendly precincts and had more stringent demands for documentation of voters' IDs in D-friendly precincts. Such was the allegation.
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« Reply #38 on: January 04, 2014, 05:56:31 pm »

It's usually only right before elections occur that threads are train-wrecked quite like this. Congratulations, guys (I guess).
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« Reply #39 on: January 08, 2014, 12:38:52 pm »

You had to know her numbers would come down like this. Voters are much more willing to give her the benefit of the doubt years out just because of her name than when it gets closer and even moreso once the election starts up and the punches start flying. Kentucky will settle back nicely into the Republican column. The only Democrat who can contest it is Schweitzer, but even he would not win because gains in Appalachia are not enough to tip the state like they are in WV (since the entirety of that state is essentially located in Appalachia).
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« Reply #40 on: January 08, 2014, 02:53:22 pm »

Kentucky will not vote for Hillary. It's actually amazing that her husband won it amidst his war with the tobacco industry.
Bill Clinton probably won Kentucky due to Ross Perot's third-party run syphoning off voters who would have otherwise went for Bob Dole.
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« Reply #41 on: January 08, 2014, 03:54:56 pm »

Kentucky will not vote for Hillary. It's actually amazing that her husband won it amidst his war with the tobacco industry.
Bill Clinton probably won Kentucky due to Ross Perot's third-party run syphoning off voters who would have otherwise went for Bob Dole.

Bill Clinton dropped off a lot in Kentucky in '96. I didn't vote for him then, because he ran such a right-wing campaign.
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« Reply #42 on: January 08, 2014, 08:00:50 pm »

Kentucky will not vote for Hillary. It's actually amazing that her husband won it amidst his war with the tobacco industry.
Bill Clinton probably won Kentucky due to Ross Perot's third-party run syphoning off voters who would have otherwise went for Bob Dole.

Still, 46% is quite high compared to everyone else that come since.
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« Reply #43 on: January 09, 2014, 12:13:21 pm »

Here's the trend:

In the Dec. 2012 PPP poll from KY, Hillary led Paul by 5 (47-42).

In their April 2013 poll, the race was tied 45-45.

And now she's down by 6.

In other words it's been a 10 point race between Hillary and a Republican in Kentucky since 2007/2008.
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