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« Reply #1475 on: May 29, 2015, 07:37:50 am »

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« Reply #1476 on: May 29, 2015, 07:40:07 am »

My only mild surprise is that he retired now rather than in opposition. Knowing he'd never be leader, plus with previously mentioned family concerns... makes sense.
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« Reply #1477 on: May 29, 2015, 07:44:26 am »

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« Reply #1478 on: May 29, 2015, 11:38:36 am »

So who is the frontrunner to replace Harper as Conservative leader when that time eventually comes? I always though MacKay was his preferred successor.
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« Reply #1479 on: May 29, 2015, 11:42:49 am »

Frontrunner is Jason Kenney. MacKay has never been Harper's preferred successor. Red Tories would probably support James Moore.
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« Reply #1480 on: May 29, 2015, 12:40:14 pm »

Didn't know that Harper and MacKay are close personal friends.
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« Reply #1481 on: May 29, 2015, 04:01:15 pm »

L+1

The Liberals managed one weak win in 1993. They might get Central Nova if they win a heft majority, but not when they're at 30% in the polls.
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« Reply #1482 on: May 29, 2015, 04:08:15 pm »

Peter MacKay only won a majority of the votes once. Take him out of the picture, and the Liberals can win the seat, especially the way they are polling in Nova Scotia.
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« Reply #1483 on: May 29, 2015, 04:10:34 pm »

What matters more than national polls is the Conservatives are polling in the low 20's in the Atlantic, around what the PCs got in their 1993 nadir when they lost every NS seat. I'd say it's vulnerable. Definitely not "L+1!!!" though.
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« Reply #1484 on: May 29, 2015, 04:14:41 pm »

Definitely not "L+1!!!"

What's wrong with having a little flare for the dramatic? Smiley
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« Reply #1485 on: May 29, 2015, 05:34:51 pm »

Wells writes MacKay's political eulogy.
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« Reply #1486 on: June 01, 2015, 11:24:51 pm »

Parizeau died last night after a months-long illness.
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« Reply #1487 on: June 02, 2015, 06:49:21 am »

I don't have many nice things to say about Parizeau, so I'll leave it at that.
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« Reply #1488 on: June 02, 2015, 04:48:09 pm »

I don't have many nice things to say about Parizeau, so I'll leave it at that.

I see the Angryphone media did its usual hatchet job. They even tried today, asking Couillard how he dared honour the memory of an evil separatist. Thankfully, he put her to her right place.

He was a very strong left-winger, the last intellectual hearyweight politician in Quebec (Landry, Charest, Marois and Couillard are dumb and idiot comprared to him), very charismatic, the finance minister of Levesque and the father of many Quebec institutions, like the CDPQ (the investment fund of the Quebec, owning things all around the world) and the RRQ (our retirement fund). Really sad than the Angryphones managed to taint his strong left-wing credentials to theeyes of fellow left-wingers.

He was passoniate about independence, but probably way too much, which caused some verbal excesses, but he wasn't a racist (unlike some in PQ) and was good-hearted. PQ needs more people like him and less Péladeaus.

Couillard announced the CDPQ HQ will be renamed Jacques-Parizeau.
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« Reply #1489 on: June 02, 2015, 09:52:35 pm »

I was an impressionable child during the mid 1990s, so separatists where very much a boogeyman to me. That era of Canadian politics still feels nightmarish to me. I hope you understand why so many anglophones have irrational feelings about Quebec nationalism.
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« Reply #1490 on: June 02, 2015, 10:26:28 pm »

I see the Angryphone media did its usual hatchet job. They even tried today, asking Couillard how he dared honour the memory of an evil separatist. Thankfully, he put her to her right place.

Pretty good, complex obituary in the Gazette, though:

http://montrealgazette.com/news/local-news/jacques-parizeau-obit
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« Reply #1491 on: June 03, 2015, 03:33:09 am »

Let's say he was intense, passionate, stubborn, obstinate and larger than life. Which enlarged very much his qualities but also his flaws.

As a public servant under Lesage's government, in the 60's, he was one of the main creators of the modern Quebec economical structures (which was dominated, before, by Anglophones who were lukewarm, as best, hostile, at worst, to French Canadians having economical power).

Probably the last living father of the Quiet Revolution.
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« Reply #1492 on: June 03, 2015, 07:30:43 am »

Wells also has a good Parizeau obit.

Parizeau told Castonguay that had he known how Bouchard would govern, he would never have resigned.
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« Reply #1493 on: June 03, 2015, 04:04:44 pm »

I was an impressionable child during the mid 1990s, so separatists where very much a boogeyman to me. That era of Canadian politics still feels nightmarish to me. I hope you understand why so many anglophones have irrational feelings about Quebec nationalism.

Doubly so out East, where Quebec nationalism aimed to turn us into an exclave cut off from the rest of the country. Anti-Quebecer sentiment runs deep here.
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« Reply #1494 on: June 03, 2015, 07:12:55 pm »

Ontarians aren't "anti-Quebec". We're anti-Quebec separatism. In fact, Ontario is probably the most pro-Quebec province outside of Quebec. Of course, I might be biased, growing up on the border.
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« Reply #1495 on: June 04, 2015, 04:14:39 pm »

On another note, the 3 Senate leaders are among those with expense problems. Of the 9 files sent to the RCMP, 2 are incumbents (Tory and a Grit) and both have been asked to resign. Harper should not have let them set up the Binnie thing either.
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« Reply #1496 on: June 04, 2015, 11:12:09 pm »
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Are conservatives seriously boycotting Tim Hortons over pulling an Enbridge ad?
http://globalnews.ca/news/2036702/tim-hortons-faces-backlash-after-yanking-enbridge-ads-from-stores/?hootPostID=fe43cf0e03c0343e7de441d2b852e7e4
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« Reply #1497 on: June 05, 2015, 12:48:40 am »

Are conservatives seriously start boycotting Tim Hortons over pulling an Enbridge ad?
http://globalnews.ca/news/2036702/tim-hortons-faces-backlash-after-yanking-enbridge-ads-from-stores/?hootPostID=fe43cf0e03c0343e7de441d2b852e7e4
It says a lot about how conservatives have built such a bunker mentality that they get angry over a private organization pressuring a private company's decision to enter sponsorship agreements with another private company. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #1498 on: June 05, 2015, 01:55:47 am »

Oh, continue like that, dear Conservatives!

Given the opinion the average person has of Tim Hortons and Enbridge, this should badly reflect on Conservatives.
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« Reply #1499 on: June 07, 2015, 09:54:13 pm »

Senate expense breakdown from CTV.
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