Canada General Discussion 1.5: The Countdown Begins

[RogueBeaver]

Wynne says there will be transit taxes in the budget. Hudak: Ontarians want an election, and it's unfortunate that the premier sees Ontarians as revenue tools.

[RogueBeaver]

Zach Paikin is running against Chris Charlton in Hamilton-West-Ancaster-Dundas next year.

[Njall]

For those who are interested: the policy resolutions that have been submitted to the LPC's convention.  One that jumped out to me was number 97, calling for a trial of a guaranteed income supplement.

[Linus Van Pelt]

Zach Paikin is running against Chris Charlton in Hamilton-West-Ancaster-Dundas next year.

Are you sure Charlton is running in this riding? It doesn't say this in your link. Why would she run here when her current Hamilton Mountain riding has undergone only minor changes and is more NDP-leaning?

[Hatman 🍁]

Zach Paikin is running against Chris Charlton in Hamilton-West-Ancaster-Dundas next year.

Are you sure Charlton is running in this riding? It doesn't say this in your link. Why would she run here when her current Hamilton Mountain riding has undergone only minor changes and is more NDP-leaning?

Beat me to it. That would be incredibly stupid if she runs there.

So, the Paikins are Liberal? Makes sense, I guess. I wish TVO would hire non partisan journalists...

[RogueBeaver]

That's what it said earlier IIRC. Either way he loses.

[RogueBeaver]

Zach Paikin is running against Chris Charlton in Hamilton-West-Ancaster-Dundas next year.

Are you sure Charlton is running in this riding? It doesn't say this in your link. Why would she run here when her current Hamilton Mountain riding has undergone only minor changes and is more NDP-leaning?

Beat me to it. That would be incredibly stupid if she runs there.

So, the Paikins are Liberal? Makes sense, I guess. I wish TVO would hire non partisan journalists...

Is there such a thing in political journalism?

[Linus Van Pelt]

That's what it said earlier IIRC. Either way he loses.

Hmm, that suggests maybe they realized it was a mistake.

Anyway, Zach Paikin and Steve Paikin are not the same person and Paikin Sr. should not have to resign from journalism just because his son is running for office. Maybe he shouldn't moderate the debate this time around though, which is a pity, since he's been good at it.

[Hatman 🍁]

That's what it said earlier IIRC. Either way he loses.

Not necessarily.

Transposed results:

Cons: 42%
NDP: 28%
Lib: 25%

Suburban Hamilton tends to be a bellwether, so I wouldn't be surprised if the Liberals win it.

[RogueBeaver]

Ipsos has 37L/29C/24N nationally.

[Smid]

That would almost be enough for a majority, if it were not for the Tories pulling ahead in BC. Difficult to get a majority when you're on the nose pretty much everywhere West of Ontario.

[Hatman 🍁]

That would almost be enough for a majority, if it were not for the Tories pulling ahead in BC. Difficult to get a majority when you're on the nose pretty much everywhere West of Ontario.

Meanwhile, we have the Tories in third in BC :S

[RogueBeaver]

Doubtful. Lead is too small and as always, highly inefficient vote. Meanwhile they're slipping in another key area: regional Quebec, and trail the NDP 32/27 among Francophones provincewide.

[DC Al Fine]

Latest Ipsos Reid poll



Things to note:

1) The Tories are at 12% in Atlantic Canada
2) The Grits are at almost 40% in Alberta!

[RogueBeaver]

Ipsos is excellent, but I have trouble believing Alberta and Atlantic. Angus-Reid has 33L/28C/26N among EV, 32C/31L/28N among LV.

In other news, Hiebert will retire next year. Said he never intended to be a career pol. Might also be knowing he won't rise higher, and I wouldn't be surprised to see others do the same. Cabinet personnel won't change substantially for the next while barring Flaherty's retirement. Leadership pool is also well-established.

If Harper did that it would be called preplanned fakery.

[RogueBeaver]

Grits are moving tilting to port economically, gives us a bigger target.

Meanwhile Hudak has said RTW will not be in the Tory platform.

[Linus Van Pelt]

Grits are moving tilting to port economically, gives us a bigger target.

Bringing in Larry Summers to talk about stimulus is moving "leftward" from where the Liberals were? Some of these journalists haven't left the 1990's.

[RogueBeaver]

Kenney's made the key Jobs Grant concession demanded by the provinces.

Nanos has 34L/29C/23N nationally.

[RogueBeaver]

Forgot to mention it, but Friday was the 40th anniversary of Tim Horton's death.

[RogueBeaver]

Trudeau thinks Russia might invade Ukraine because they lost in hockey. In case anyone doubted he's in way over his head... but also continuing in the family foreign affairs tradition.

[DC Al Fine]

Trudeau thinks Russia might invade Ukraine because they lost in hockey. In case anyone doubted he's in way over his head... but also continuing in the family foreign affairs tradition.

I for one welcome our teen popstar overlord.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Trudeau thinks Russia might invade Ukraine because they lost in hockey. In case anyone doubted he's in way over his head... but also continuing in the family foreign affairs tradition.

I for one welcome our teen popstar overlord.

So Justin Bieber is the secret leader of the Liberals?  Who knew?  Still, I think a fair share of this forum would say that Bieber would do a better job as Canadian PM than Steven Harper.

[RogueBeaver]

Flaherty says he's undecided about running next year. Obviously he won't confirm one way or the other until just before the election... but a marked departure from his previous vehement insistence that he's running again. For all intents and purposes (since no one will ever remotely equal Fielding's 20 years) he'll be the longest-serving finance minister next year.

Trudeau has apologized to the Ukrainian Canadian Congress. In related news, his economic pitch is BS.

[RogueBeaver]

Conflicting reports on whether the premiers have accepted the Jobs Grant from CBC and Globe.

[RogueBeaver]

Tories are courting Cannon (too old IMO) and a bunch of PLQ/CAQ candidates for next year.