Canada General Discussion 1.5: The Countdown Begins

[DC Al Fine]

Headline from 1990. Trudeau says all Grit candidates must be pro-choice.

Guess Szabo & McTeague aren't running again.

[RogueBeaver]

Earl: Was referring to the expanded veto.

DC: Guess not, but I'd also guess he wants to limit the number of retreads.

[RogueBeaver]

Hmm... per Rosie Barton McKay wishes his party was more pluralistic.

[RogueBeaver]

100% agreed w/Newman.

[RogueBeaver]

La Presse reported on Ville-Marie hocus-pocus 2 months ago, now Maclean's has details.

[RogueBeaver]

Feds trying to offload responsibility for aboriginal policing. Bad idea IMO.

PMO suggested Nadon resign and join the QC bar.

G&M interview with the new Chinese ambassador.

[MaxQue]

The expanded Atlas also us to explore further back in the history and see some curiosities, like a Independent winning York North in 1984. (York North was huge then, including current Vaughan, Thornhill, Richmond Hill, Markham-Unionville and parts of Oak Ridges-Markham). It's an interesting story.

The PC incumbent, John Gamble (1979-1984) was a controversial hard-right and anti-communist MP. He ran for PC leadership in 1983 and got a very small result. Tony Roman was the mayor of Markham and local influent people convinced him of running to get rid of the hard right MP, because the Liberal candidate was weak (those local people were PCers, independents and Liberals). He ran on on some wierd halfway between Liberals and PC and won. He retired after one term and returned to Markham mayorship.

John Gamble tried to run for Reform in 1993, but was expelled for its links with neo-nazi Heritage Front.

[RogueBeaver]

Historic: PLQ 40%, CAQ 27%, PQ 19%. PQ third among Francophones (!!!) 33% CAQ, 29% PLQ, 23% PQ. Last among voters under 45. Part of this is normal for landslide defeats, but Leger said he's never seen anything like it. Question is now whether Vincent Lemieux was right and PQ is a one-generation pony.

Grits still stratospheric in the Atlantic provinces.

[DC Al Fine]

Historic: PLQ 40%, CAQ 27%, PQ 19%. PQ third among Francophones (!!!) 33% CAQ, 29% PLQ, 23% PQ. Last among voters under 45. Part of this is normal for landslide defeats, but Leger said he's never seen anything like it. Question is now whether Vincent Lemieux was right and PQ is a one-generation pony.

That looks pretty bad for the PQ when it comes to seats. The PQ has the same problem as the Bloc; not many bastions of support. When the tide goes against them, they really feel it. They might salvage a dozen seats with that result.

[Linus Van Pelt]

A funny coincidence I just realized looking at the 1984 map following MaxQue's post above: in that year, all three parties elected an Anglican priest MP in Toronto (Dan Heap, NDP, Spadina; Reginald Stackhouse, PC, Scarborough West; Roland De Corneille, Liberal, Eglinton-Lawrence).

[Citizen Hats]

The expanded Atlas also us to explore further back in the history and see some curiosities, like a Independent winning York North in 1984. (York North was huge then, including current Vaughan, Thornhill, Richmond Hill, Markham-Unionville and parts of Oak Ridges-Markham). It's an interesting story.

The PC incumbent, John Gamble (1979-1984) was a controversial hard-right and anti-communist MP. He ran for PC leadership in 1983 and got a very small result. Tony Roman was the mayor of Markham and local influent people convinced him of running to get rid of the hard right MP, because the Liberal candidate was weak (those local people were PCers, independents and Liberals). He ran on on some wierd halfway between Liberals and PC and won. He retired after one term and returned to Markham mayorship.

John Gamble tried to run for Reform in 1993, but was expelled for its links with neo-nazi Heritage Front.

People like Gamble remind to laugh at all the PC-nostalgics

[RogueBeaver]

Alberta regime still in extremis and Prentice may create another voter whiplash if he clears the field when nominations close on the 30th. Not elected by a riding, party or province. Climate is so radioactive that Wildrose could even knock him off in Calgary-Foothills, in which case Braid says Prentice's leadership would be instantly over before it began.

NDP introducing an abortion resolution.

CETA can't live up to hype if isn't signed.

More Bruce Carson charges.

Police could see tax data without a warrant due to an omnibus clause. Hopefully that gets fixed.

[RogueBeaver]

WTF: Smith claims Prentice intermediaries asked for a merger. If true he's absolutely delusional and an arrogant asshole.

[Citizen Hats]

Someone Polled BC! namely 39% NDP, 38% Liberal, 14% Green

http://www.insightswest.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/05/ReportCardMay2014_Tables.pdf

[RogueBeaver]

NDP taxpayer funded office controversy still going, but typical bubble issue IMO.

Cardinal Collins isn't happy with the Grits on abortion, but no mention of the NDP's stance. Better response than what happened last time.


Still no mention of Trudeau's carbon tax except in Sun. Wonder why.

[Njall]

WTF: Smith claims Prentice intermediaries asked for a merger. If true he's absolutely delusional and an arrogant asshole.

I highly doubt that this is true, at least in its entirety.

[RogueBeaver]

Denials haven't been terribly convincing.

[RogueBeaver]

Old news but forgot to post: Tory MPs Greg Kerr (West Nova, BC) and Colin Mayes (Okanagan-Shuswap, BC) will retire next year.

[MaxQue]

Old news but forgot to post: Tory MPs Greg Kerr (West Nova, BC) and Colin Mayes (Okanagan-Shuswap, BC) will retire next year.

Surprising for Greg Kerr, he is only elected since 2008, but I suppose he thought he would lose next time (Harper is very unpopular in the Atlantic), and his riding voted Liberal in 2006. He won 47-36 over the former Liberal MP last time.

Mayes was elected first in 2006. Riding is quite safe, last time it was one by another party than Reform/Conservtive was in 1988 (NDP). He won 55-36 last time against NDP, with Liberals 4th, behind Greens in 3rd.

[DC Al Fine]

Old news but forgot to post: Tory MPs Greg Kerr (West Nova, BC) and Colin Mayes (Okanagan-Shuswap, BC) will retire next year.

Surprising for Greg Kerr, he is only elected since 2008, but I suppose he thought he would lose next time (Harper is very unpopular in the Atlantic), and his riding voted Liberal in 2006. He won 47-36 over the former Liberal MP last time.

He's been in politics since 1978. I imagine he's ready to retire. Kerr was probably the Tories only hope in West Nova. Goodbye West Nova I guess

[RogueBeaver]

Unsurprisingly, O'Connor is also retiring next year. Vern White might run.

[Hatman 🍁]

West Nova, BC

[DC Al Fine]

West Nova, BC

Can't believe I missed that one

Also, West Nova & Central Nova are stupid riding names.

[Hatman 🍁]

West Nova, BC

Can't believe I missed that one

Also, West Nova & Central Nova are stupid riding names.

Yes, they are. What would you call them?

[RogueBeaver]

Forgot to mention that FEA passed the House, but waiting for Senate + royal assent.