Canada General Discussion 1.5: The Countdown Begins

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

West Nova, BC

Can't believe I missed that one

Also, West Nova & Central Nova are stupid riding names.

Yes, they are. What would you call them?

I'd combine them into one riding named Super Nova.

[Citizen Hats]

West Nova, BC

Can't believe I missed that one

Also, West Nova & Central Nova are stupid riding names.

Yes, they are. What would you call them?

 Annapolis Valley-Yarmouth and East Shore-Pictou

[DC Al Fine]

West Nova, BC

Annapolis Valley-Yarmouth and East Shore-Pictou

Can't believe I missed that one

Also, West Nova & Central Nova are stupid riding names.

Yes, they are. What would you call them?

West Nova is easy: Yarmouth-Digby-Annapolis. Covers the three main counties that make up 90% of the riding.

Central Nova is a bit tougher since it's an awkward riding. Maybe Pictou-Eastern Shore or Pictou-Antigonish-Eastern Shore. The 2nd one is more accurate but it sounds funny

[Hatman 🍁]

What about Yarmouth-Digby-Annapolis Valley ?

I would also go with Pictou-Antigonish-Eastern Shore for Central Nova.

[Citizen Hats]

What about Yarmouth-Digby-Annapolis Valley ?

I would also go with Pictou-Antigonish-Eastern Shore for Central Nova.

Antigonish is just such a damndably long string of long syllables when properly pronounced

[DC Al Fine]

What about Yarmouth-Digby-Annapolis Valley ?

Yeah that would work. It would also cover the chunk of Kings county that's in the riding without adding another place to the riding name. What are some other terribly named ridings? The only one I can think of off the top of my head is New Brunswick Southwest, but I'm sure there are others... Maybe some of the Alberta ridings? There's no way that "Manning" is an actual neighbourhood in Edmonton

[Hatman 🍁]

British Columbia Southern Interior.

Any riding named after a person.

Names with more than three places in its title.

[Hatman 🍁]

For NB SW, I would suggest: Charlotte-Saint John Valley
For BC SI: Kootenay-Okanagan or Kootenay-Similkameen or Kootenay-Boundary-Okanagan/Similkameen

[Citizen Hats]

For NB SW, I would suggest: Charlotte-Saint John Valley
For BC SI: Kootenay-Okanagan or Kootenay-Similkameen or Kootenay-Boundary-Okanagan/Similkameen

Thankfully, BCSI riding is gone, replaced with the more sensibly shaped ridings of 'South Okanagan-West Kootenay'  and 'Central Okanagan-Similkameen-Nicola'  

Both of which are horrible names.  I think a name that contains more than four-five words should be struck, along with pointless directionals. SOWK could be replaced with Okanagan-Kootenay.  COSN could easily be Okanagan-Similkameen-Nicola or Okanagan-Merritt-Keremeos or Boundary Okanagan or whatever.

as for the old riding, I feel 'Kootenay-Keremeos' would have been an artful name

Of course, the BC Commission was fond of ensuring that everyone knew at a glance what particular part of some area was attached to another area, thus we end up with Vancouver Island North-Comox-Powell River and Burnaby North-Seymour. I would rename so many of them

Also, thoughts on 'Vancouver Quadra'? It's been named that for decades, but Quadra isn't a neighborhood. Quadra is an island north of here, and was a Spanish explorer. Despite my dislike of ridings-from-people, I do feel that Quadra has been Quadra for so long that it has become part of the Geography

[Hatman 🍁]

For Quadra: Why not Quilchena-Point Grey? (for the provincial ridings)

[Citizen Hats]

For Quadra: Why not Quilchena-Point Grey? (for the provincial ridings)

Especially after redistribution that would make some sense. Thing is that, while I don't mind the just-pick-a-name approach, 'Quilchena' isn't actually the name of anything other than a mid sized park and a smallish street and a small town in the Interior. 

Vancouver-West would be the most logical name if not for the existence of the municipality of West Vancouver.  Perhaps Vancouver-University? It might even be polite to make it Vancouver-Musquem or something like that

[Hatman 🍁]

I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

[DC Al Fine]

I'm kind of curious what they'll do in in Calgary next redistribution. It's big enough that they could start using riding names other than Calgary_______ but the city grew so fast, there aren't really any alternative place names to use. There's no equivalent to Etobicoke or Scarborough for Calgary is there?

[Hatman 🍁]

I'm kind of curious what they'll do in in Calgary next redistribution. It's big enough that they could start using riding names other than Calgary_______ but the city grew so fast, there aren't really any alternative place names to use. There's no equivalent to Etobicoke or Scarborough for Calgary is there?

Not really, no. It's incredibly difficult to name ridings in Calgary, because the city isn't really divided into large regions with a unique names (even Edmonton as Mill Woods). Rather, the city is divided up into hundreds of small little neighbourhoods.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

I'm kind of curious what they'll do in in Calgary next redistribution. It's big enough that they could start using riding names other than Calgary_______ but the city grew so fast, there aren't really any alternative place names to use. There's no equivalent to Etobicoke or Scarborough for Calgary is there?

Not really, no. It's incredibly difficult to name ridings in Calgary, because the city isn't really divided into large regions with a unique names (even Edmonton as Mill Woods). Rather, the city is divided up into hundreds of small little neighbourhoods.

Can they just divide into "North Calgary" and "South Calgary" or something?

[Citizen Hats]

I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

Cardinal-Direction geography is tricky in Vancouver, and any name including a cardinal direction is probably in no way a symmetrical concept with a similar name including a different cardinal direction.  'The West End' refers to the portion of the downtown peninsula NW of Burrard St. and SW of Georgia St, which is part of Vancouver-Centre.

Point Grey refers to two things- the headland on which UBC sits (a term which is not frequently encountered for lack of need to use it), and the rather tony neighborhood between Blanca St, 16th Avenue, and Alma St. This neighborhood is quite small compared to Vancouver Point Grey, and smaller still next to Vancouver Quadra, though the headland does itself make a good name. 

What's wrong with -University?

[Citizen Hats]

I'm kind of curious what they'll do in in Calgary next redistribution. It's big enough that they could start using riding names other than Calgary_______ but the city grew so fast, there aren't really any alternative place names to use. There's no equivalent to Etobicoke or Scarborough for Calgary is there?

Not really, no. It's incredibly difficult to name ridings in Calgary, because the city isn't really divided into large regions with a unique names (even Edmonton as Mill Woods). Rather, the city is divided up into hundreds of small little neighbourhoods.

Can they just divide into "North Calgary" and "South Calgary" or something?

There are ten constituencies within Calgary city limits

[Hatman 🍁]

I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

Cardinal-Direction geography is tricky in Vancouver, and any name including a cardinal direction is probably in no way a symmetrical concept with a similar name including a different cardinal direction.  'The West End' refers to the portion of the downtown peninsula NW of Burrard St. and SW of Georgia St, which is part of Vancouver-Centre.

Point Grey refers to two things- the headland on which UBC sits (a term which is not frequently encountered for lack of need to use it), and the rather tony neighborhood between Blanca St, 16th Avenue, and Alma St. This neighborhood is quite small compared to Vancouver Point Grey, and smaller still next to Vancouver Quadra, though the headland does itself make a good name. 

What's wrong with -University?

Every major city in Canada has a university, there is nothing unique about using it in a riding name.

As for Point Grey, there is a golf course in the southern part of Vancouver Quadra named Point Grey, which is why I thought it would be a good name.

[DC Al Fine]

I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

Cardinal-Direction geography is tricky in Vancouver, and any name including a cardinal direction is probably in no way a symmetrical concept with a similar name including a different cardinal direction.  'The West End' refers to the portion of the downtown peninsula NW of Burrard St. and SW of Georgia St, which is part of Vancouver-Centre.

Point Grey refers to two things- the headland on which UBC sits (a term which is not frequently encountered for lack of need to use it), and the rather tony neighborhood between Blanca St, 16th Avenue, and Alma St. This neighborhood is quite small compared to Vancouver Point Grey, and smaller still next to Vancouver Quadra, though the headland does itself make a good name. 

What's wrong with -University?

Every major city in Canada has a university, there is nothing unique about using it in a riding name.

I think it would be ok if the riding used a specific university name that wasn't just a place name. i.e. Toronto-Ryerson would be ok but Toronto-UofT would not.

[Hatman 🍁]

I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

Cardinal-Direction geography is tricky in Vancouver, and any name including a cardinal direction is probably in no way a symmetrical concept with a similar name including a different cardinal direction.  'The West End' refers to the portion of the downtown peninsula NW of Burrard St. and SW of Georgia St, which is part of Vancouver-Centre.

Point Grey refers to two things- the headland on which UBC sits (a term which is not frequently encountered for lack of need to use it), and the rather tony neighborhood between Blanca St, 16th Avenue, and Alma St. This neighborhood is quite small compared to Vancouver Point Grey, and smaller still next to Vancouver Quadra, though the headland does itself make a good name. 

What's wrong with -University?

Every major city in Canada has a university, there is nothing unique about using it in a riding name.

I think it would be ok if the riding used a specific university name that wasn't just a place name. i.e. Toronto-Ryerson would be ok but Toronto-UofT would not.

Maybe, also having the name "University Heights" for York West would be acceptable.

[Citizen Hats]

I hate appending "University" to riding names. But you're right about Quilchena. I couldn't find much referring to the area as that.

This may be getting too long for you, but what about "Vancouver West End--Point Grey"?


ETA: Actually, "Vancouver-Point Grey" might be inclusive enough, since there are areas in the south of the riding called Point Grey as well.

Cardinal-Direction geography is tricky in Vancouver, and any name including a cardinal direction is probably in no way a symmetrical concept with a similar name including a different cardinal direction.  'The West End' refers to the portion of the downtown peninsula NW of Burrard St. and SW of Georgia St, which is part of Vancouver-Centre.

Point Grey refers to two things- the headland on which UBC sits (a term which is not frequently encountered for lack of need to use it), and the rather tony neighborhood between Blanca St, 16th Avenue, and Alma St. This neighborhood is quite small compared to Vancouver Point Grey, and smaller still next to Vancouver Quadra, though the headland does itself make a good name. 

What's wrong with -University?

Every major city in Canada has a university, there is nothing unique about using it in a riding name.

As for Point Grey, there is a golf course in the southern part of Vancouver Quadra named Point Grey, which is why I thought it would be a good name.

Every major city in Canada has a north end or a west end, and University seems more interesting than that. 

And true, there is the Point Grey golf course. I used to live near there, over on the Musquem Reserve. 

[RogueBeaver]

Hebert: revert to much stricter early voting.

Ibbitson: Trudeau doesn't understand the realities of modern foreign policy.

[Citizen Hats]

Hebert: revert to much stricter early voting.

Ibbitson: Trudeau doesn't understand the realities of modern foreign policy.

Ibbitson's article could be summarized as 'I'm going to pretend that Justin Trudeau is actually 1988 vintage John Turner'

[RogueBeaver]

John Turner used the terms "imperialist" and "colonial" when discussing foreign policy? News to me. Nah, what Ibbitson's saying is that Trudeau's embodying Laurentia.

[RogueBeaver]

Nanos tracker: 56% would consider voting Grit, 45% NDP, 44% Tory. PPM is Harper 31, Trudeau 27, Mulcair 19.