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« on: March 28, 2005, 11:56:49 PM »

How soon BEFORE thd polls in Zimbabwe close does Jimmy Carter declare the elections "free and fair"
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« Reply #1 on: March 29, 2005, 05:43:38 PM »

How soon BEFORE thd polls in Zimbabwe close does Jimmy Carter declare the elections "free and fair"
You are such a troll.



Carter loves autocratic leftist governments, that's fact.  How does stating it make me a troll?

You're such a bore!
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« Reply #2 on: March 30, 2005, 09:37:08 PM »

How soon BEFORE thd polls in Zimbabwe close does Jimmy Carter declare the elections "free and fair"
You are such a troll.
Carter loves autocratic leftist governments, that's fact.  How does stating it make me a troll?

You're such a bore!
Umm...I wouldn't call Mugabe a leftist dictator. Not someone who goes around intimidating the leftist opposition party, promotes taliban religion and bashes gays.




Mugabe took power as a socialist/communist.  Like other socialist/communist dictators, Mugabe rigs the vote so that only he can win, and in the even that he still loses, he jails or murders his opponents.  Like other socialist/communist dictators, he steals farmland from the rightful owners, which ensures that famine and starvation will result.  Like other socialist/communist dictators, he uses nepotism to hand out govt posts, land, and national wealth--at the expense of the people he 'fought' to help.  Like other socialist/communist dictators, he has no use for gays or other so-called  'intellectuals' after he has taken power, since they are a threat to continued rule.  Like other socialist/communist dictators he is antagonistic to any religion, social organization, or trade union  that challenges his personal power.


The reference to Carter is pure sarcasm, since Carter has shown fawning support for such socialist/communist dictators as Hussein, Castro, Kim, and Chavez.
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« Reply #3 on: April 03, 2005, 06:12:09 PM »

I was delighted to learn of Robert Mugabe's victory. I believe that his land distribution policies, while flawed, are the only way to displace certain of white colonial domination. Hopefully, Zimbabwe will move forward rather than backward.



If murdering the landowners, and displacing their skilled farmworkers with Zanu-PF cronies that are incapable of growing food is the most equitable way to redistribute land, I hope like hell that you never get elected to any political office.
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« Reply #4 on: April 03, 2005, 10:31:28 PM »

Now please point me to Jimmy Carter's praise of Mugabe or his claims that the elections were fair.

This is an article on Jimmy Carter and Mugabe.

the Mugabe of 1980 is far different than today. Look at the archived Freedom House scores.

The question is whether Carter has praised Mugabe recentely, or claimed the recent elections were legitimate, as Notre dame has claimed here.



As I pointed out to you earlier, the comment about Carter was sarcasm, and was based on his earlier comments in which he praises dictators, or dictator wannabees, for winninng their 'free' elections.  I have no doubt that Carter will praise the statesman that is Mugabe for conducting an honorable campaign.   Carter has become a pathetic caricature of a former statesmen.  I guess that is what an ass-whooun at the hands of Ronald Reagan can do to you, even after this much time has passed.
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« Reply #5 on: April 04, 2005, 08:12:37 PM »

Now please point me to Jimmy Carter's praise of Mugabe or his claims that the elections were fair.

This is an article on Jimmy Carter and Mugabe.

the Mugabe of 1980 is far different than today. Look at the archived Freedom House scores.

The question is whether Carter has praised Mugabe recentely, or claimed the recent elections were legitimate, as Notre dame has claimed here.



As I pointed out to you earlier, the comment about Carter was sarcasm, and was based on his earlier comments in which he praises dictators, or dictator wannabees, for winninng their 'free' elections.  I have no doubt that Carter will praise the statesman that is Mugabe for conducting an honorable campaign.   Carter has become a pathetic caricature of a former statesmen.  I guess that is what an ass-whooun at the hands of Ronald Reagan can do to you, even after this much time has passed.
Umm, no. The Carter Center has a record of condemning Zimbabwe's farces  Mugabe calls elections.

"The election process was fundamentally flawed by pre-election intimidation and violence against the opposition by ruling party militants with tacit or even active support from the government, as widely reported by credible international and domestic observers on the scene. Nonetheless, candidates from all parties campaigned actively and relative calm prevailed on the two days of balloting, although a significant number of voters were turned away and scattered reports of intimidation in rural areas were received."

http://www.cartercenter.org/viewdoc.asp?docID=1023&submenu=news







The article admits that Mugabe stole yet another election, yet gives him credit for not murdering opposition voters, or at least not too many of them.  Give me a break!  The only reason that relative peace ensued is because oppostion candidates know that if they riot, they will be killed.  It's that simple.  Africans aren't stupid!  They have learned from Rwanda's experience that anything can happen in Afirica, including wholesale genocide, and nobody from the outside world will do ANYTHING meaningful to stop it.
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