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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2014, 05:54:55 PM »

Hoover just inherited the mess Coolidge left for him and took the blame
What? The Great Depression began under Hoover's administration.
So? Just because it began under Hoover doesn't mean he should get 100% of the blame, Coolidge's economic policy helped the depression to start, did Hoover sign some crap that was pretty f**king terrible and may have continued the Depression's existence? Yes, but his policies didn't start it.
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2014, 05:56:56 PM »

So much approval for poisoning moonshine wells.
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2014, 05:59:50 PM »

So much approval for poisoning moonshine wells.

Well, it's a deterrant. And a rather 'karmic' one at that.
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2014, 06:06:30 PM »
« Edited: February 21, 2014, 06:18:39 PM by Rep. Deus »

Hoover just inherited the mess Coolidge left for him and took the blame
What? The Great Depression began under Hoover's administration.
So? Just because it began under Hoover doesn't mean he should get 100% of the blame, Coolidge's economic policy helped the depression to start, did Hoover sign some crap that was pretty f**king terrible and may have continued the Depression's existence? Yes, but his policies didn't start it.
Well, yeah, the Wall Street Crash of 1929 started the Depression. However, it was Hoover's interventionist reaction to what could have been a brief but painful recession (like the previous recession of 1920-21) and caused it to become the worst economic period in American history.

Regardless, I don't see how Coolidge is to blame here.
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2014, 06:12:06 PM »

The most useless president sorry*
And yes, I tend to believe he was globally my dear Jacques Chirac. Moderately rightwing though not excessively, but he doesn't seem to simply be a politician: really discret, doesn't like speaking... That's why he's a HP for me. But I don't hate him, Warren Harding was by far a bigger ass hole than him.
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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2014, 06:29:50 PM »

Hoover just inherited the mess Coolidge left for him and took the blame
What? The Great Depression began under Hoover's administration.
So? Just because it began under Hoover doesn't mean he should get 100% of the blame, Coolidge's economic policy helped the depression to start, did Hoover sign some crap that was pretty f**king terrible and may have continued the Depression's existence? Yes, but his policies didn't start it.
Well, yeah, the Wall Street Crash of 1929 started the Depression. However, it was Hoover's interventionist reaction to what could have been a brief but painful recession (like the previous recession of 1920-21) and caused it to become the worst economic period in American history.

Regardless, I don't see how Coolidge is to blame here.

The economy had been slowing throughout the year 1929 before the crash had started. It is true that the combination of tariffs backfiring, taxes and the failure of the FED to maintain liquidity in the banks caused the Great Depression over the next few years.

But that only means that actions taken in that period caused The Great Depression to be a Depression. In terms of a slowdown in any degree or level, such was already in the cards. The 1920's had been rather rocky and banks not located in the cities and north were already struggling thanks to the crash in farm prices following World War I. Kind of like how Michigan was left out of the 2000's expansion and Texas out of the 1980's. Such is the cost of living tied to a singular industry, especially when it is in turn so dependent on commodity prices.

A correction of some sort was bound to happen, particularly with such loose credit as was the case in the 1920's. To the extent that such planted the seeds of what would become the Depression, falls on Coolidge because he was President at the time. Though unlike Clinton, Coolidge cannot be directly tied to an overt action that planted those seeds in the form of certain pieces of banking legislation passed in the late 1990's. The left is blaming Coolidge for specific inactions, not intervening to help the farmers or redistribute income in general. The problem is that this wouldn't have stopped the contraction from occuring, and as I stated the depth of the correction was fault of letting all the banks fail, as well as the tariffs. 
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2014, 06:31:27 PM »

FF, he's easily the best 1920's Republican.
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2014, 06:35:42 PM »

Hoover just inherited the mess Coolidge left for him and took the blame
What? The Great Depression began under Hoover's administration.
So? Just because it began under Hoover doesn't mean he should get 100% of the blame, Coolidge's economic policy helped the depression to start, did Hoover sign some crap that was pretty f**king terrible and may have continued the Depression's existence? Yes, but his policies didn't start it.
Well, yeah, the Wall Street Crash of 1929 started the Depression. However, it was Hoover's interventionist reaction to what could have been a brief but painful recession (like the previous recession of 1920-21) and caused it to become the worst economic period in American history.

Regardless, I don't see how Coolidge is to blame here.

The economy had been slowing throughout the year 1929 before the crash had started. It is true that the combination of tariffs backfiring, taxes and the failure of the FED to maintain liquidity in the banks caused the Great Depression over the next few years.

But that only means that actions taken in that period caused The Great Depression to be a Depression. In terms of a slowdown in any degree or level, such was already in the cards. The 1920's had been rather rocky and banks not located in the cities and north were already struggling thanks to the crash in farm prices following World War I. Kind of like how Michigan was left out of the 2000's expansion and Texas out of the 1980's. Such is the cost of living tied to a singular industry, especially when it is in turn so dependent on commodity prices.

A correction of some sort was bound to happen, particularly with such loose credit as was the case in the 1920's. To the extent that such planted the seeds of what would become the Depression, falls on Coolidge because he was President at the time. Though unlike Clinton, Coolidge cannot be directly tied to an overt action that planted those seeds in the form of certain pieces of banking legislation passed in the late 1990's. The left is blaming Coolidge for specific inactions, not intervening to help the farmers or redistribute income in general. The problem is that this wouldn't have stopped the contraction from occuring, and as I stated the depth of the correction was fault of letting all the banks fail, as well as the tariffs. 

So, essentially, the Great Depression was Andrew Mellon's fault.
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2014, 08:32:10 PM »
« Edited: February 21, 2014, 08:35:11 PM by Flawless Victory »

Ehh, HP.

He had a notorious habit of breaking up strikes and not caring about natural disasters.  And signing strict immigration laws.  And supporting corporatistic tariffs.  As well, his staunch belief in following the letter of the law and the Constitution, even for issues he know were wrong (Prohibition) is not something to be commended.  With that said, he should be commended for having a progressive view of minorities in America, giving Native Americans US citizenship, and continuing the reversal of the Wilson terror that Harding began.
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2014, 11:26:18 PM »

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That bit of pointless vandalism has since been corrected.  Coolidge's actual alleged reply is much funnier than any mere vulgarity could be: "You lose."
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2014, 11:43:37 PM »

Major FF
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« Reply #36 on: February 22, 2014, 10:45:33 AM »

FF on balance. 
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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2014, 11:51:16 PM »

I have a lot of personal sympathy for the man, but as a President I do not think of him very highly.
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