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« Reply #1350 on: August 23, 2018, 03:07:48 pm »

Sounds like Crooked Hs views to a T

That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.


LMAO


Hillary wanted to increase taxes, supported a more leftist version of Obamacare, increase regulations  and opposed Right to Work

Arguing whether you want a more conservative or more liberal version of Obamacare isn't really that huge of a difference. He obviously doesn't care much about right to work either way since the description was only a single line and he was "conflicted" and only "leaned" in support of it, so I don't see why that would matter.

Taxes and regulations is about all there is that he has substantive disagreements with her on. Compare to the current Republican Party leader who the vast majority of Republican voters worship and the vast majority of Republican politicians enthusiastically support, where he disagrees with them on:

Abortion, Same sex marriage, drug laws, gun control, religious freedom, political correctness, euthanasia, environment, immigration, minimum wage, healthcare, free trade, and foreign policy.


LMAO GOP politicians are more in favor of free trade than Dem politicians. It just that the Tarrif power was handed to the President a long time ago so there isnt much congress can do. Look at the TPP vote from 2015

Foreign policy: Again most GOP politicians are more interventionist than Dems are


Political Correctness: Um Dems favor using government action on this issue, he clearly said he wouldnt support that.

Gun Control: Rick Scott passed similar measures

Drug Laws: Trump himself favors letting the states decide

The vast majority of Republican voters now support tariffs because Trump does. And it's not really worth a damn if Republican politicians say they oppose tariffs but don't do anything about it because they love their strongman god emperor and don't want to risk his wrath. A vote from 2015 isn't relevant to the present day. In case you haven't noticed, Trump has made the GOP sell whatever was left of their soul and principles in exchange for power.

There's really no evidence of that foreign policy claim. It's not 2004 anymore. The god emperor, who again I must stress has the support of >90% of Republican voters, enjoys letting the hellholes destroy themselves and loves cuddling up to Russia and Putin now while bashing NATO and any other American allies.

I guess you missed the "don't be a dick" portion of his political correctness section, which the god emperor and an increasing number of GOP politicians violate on a daily basis.

Rick Scott is a single person. The vast majority of Republicans, including the god emperor, oppose background checks and waiting periods. If they didn't, they would've passed by now.
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« Reply #1351 on: August 23, 2018, 03:12:00 pm »

^ LOL, IceSpear I think you know you're wasting your time. Tongue  Anyway, this is the last spam I'll drop on this thread:

Sounds like Crooked Hs views to a T

That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.

The bolded is undeniable.  So, it comes down to what I would personally prefer, and even now in the age of Trump, the best Republicans >>>>>>>>>>>>> the least bad Democrats, regardless of how the entire parties shake out.  At least to this RINO.
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« Reply #1352 on: August 23, 2018, 03:24:06 pm »

^ LOL, IceSpear I think you know you're wasting your time. Tongue  Anyway, this is the last spam I'll drop on this thread:

Sounds like Crooked Hs views to a T

That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.

The bolded is undeniable.  So, it comes down to what I would personally prefer, and even now in the age of Trump, the best Republicans >>>>>>>>>>>>> the least bad Democrats, regardless of how the entire parties shake out.  At least to this RINO.

Yeah, I know I am, lol. But this entire forum is a waste of time, so whatever. Tongue

What's your take on post #1351? Unless I'm missing something here, I can only assume you weight taxes/regulation extremely heavily and everything else very lightly for you to be a persistent Republican in this day and age. I would think that voting for Hillary would've caused you to rethink your party affiliation (not necessarily to become a Democrat, but at least not be a Republican.) Of course, I realize you have historical/non policy based attachments to the party as well, exactly how much do those factor into your decision?
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« Reply #1353 on: August 23, 2018, 03:27:32 pm »

Sounds like Crooked Hs views to a T

That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.


LMAO


Hillary wanted to increase taxes, supported a more leftist version of Obamacare, increase regulations  and opposed Right to Work

Arguing whether you want a more conservative or more liberal version of Obamacare isn't really that huge of a difference. He obviously doesn't care much about right to work either way since the description was only a single line and he was "conflicted" and only "leaned" in support of it, so I don't see why that would matter.

Taxes and regulations is about all there is that he has substantive disagreements with her on. Compare to the current Republican Party leader who the vast majority of Republican voters worship and the vast majority of Republican politicians enthusiastically support, where he disagrees with them on:

Abortion, Same sex marriage, drug laws, gun control, religious freedom, political correctness, euthanasia, environment, immigration, minimum wage, healthcare, free trade, and foreign policy.


LMAO GOP politicians are more in favor of free trade than Dem politicians. It just that the Tarrif power was handed to the President a long time ago so there isnt much congress can do. Look at the TPP vote from 2015

Foreign policy: Again most GOP politicians are more interventionist than Dems are


Political Correctness: Um Dems favor using government action on this issue, he clearly said he wouldnt support that.

Gun Control: Rick Scott passed similar measures

Drug Laws: Trump himself favors letting the states decide

The vast majority of Republican voters now support tariffs because Trump does. And it's not really worth a damn if Republican politicians say they oppose tariffs but don't do anything about it because they love their strongman god emperor and don't want to risk his wrath. A vote from 2015 isn't relevant to the present day. In case you haven't noticed, Trump has made the GOP sell whatever was left of their soul and principles in exchange for power.

There's really no evidence of that foreign policy claim. It's not 2004 anymore. The god emperor, who again I must stress has the support of >90% of Republican voters, enjoys letting the hellholes destroy themselves and loves cuddling up to Russia and Putin now while bashing NATO and any other American allies.

I guess you missed the "don't be a dick" portion of his political correctness section, which the god emperor and an increasing number of GOP politicians violate on a daily basis.

Rick Scott is a single person. The vast majority of Republicans, including the god emperor, oppose background checks and waiting periods. If they didn't, they would've passed by now.


You need 2/3 of congress to override trump tarrifs. There is enough populist dems and a minority of republicans who can stop that . By the way way more Republicans voted for TPP than dems did .

Again you talk about Voters , I talk about politicians and  They overwhelmingly voted to sanction Russia , and More of them were hawkish in Syria than Democrats.

Lmao most Republican politicians  arent dicks either only Trump really is . If they are dicks so are the Dems and really only Trump stands out as very bad on that .


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« Reply #1354 on: August 23, 2018, 04:39:12 pm »

^ LOL, IceSpear I think you know you're wasting your time. Tongue  Anyway, this is the last spam I'll drop on this thread:

Sounds like Crooked Hs views to a T

That's probably why he voted for her. Wink

In all seriousness, I wouldn't go that far, but it's a massive stretch to argue that those views fit in better in the modern day GOP than they do in the modern day Dems. Though he'd obviously be catching flack either way.

The bolded is undeniable.  So, it comes down to what I would personally prefer, and even now in the age of Trump, the best Republicans >>>>>>>>>>>>> the least bad Democrats, regardless of how the entire parties shake out.  At least to this RINO.

Yeah, I know I am, lol. But this entire forum is a waste of time, so whatever. Tongue

What's your take on post #1351? Unless I'm missing something here, I can only assume you weight taxes/regulation extremely heavily and everything else very lightly for you to be a persistent Republican in this day and age. I would think that voting for Hillary would've caused you to rethink your party affiliation (not necessarily to become a Democrat, but at least not be a Republican.) Of course, I realize you have historical/non policy based attachments to the party as well, exactly how much do those factor into your decision?

Yes, a good enough description.  I also don't believe the Democratic Party will ever represent a truly appropriate vehicle for policies that I want in the future.  Even if it is a "better fit" now than the GOP (something I disagree with but can understand the thinking behind), I am highly skeptical that as I grow older (and especially as Boomers die off and Millennials get more power) the Democratic Party will ever resemble my politics in majority, especially for a sustained period of time. 

Hypothetical Future GOP >>>>>>>>>>>>> Modern Democratic Party > Modern GOP, if you will.
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« Reply #1355 on: September 10, 2018, 08:21:11 am »

Social issues:
- Pro-Choice
- Pro-SSM
- Pro-Gun (however I do support certain regulations, raise the age to buy a rifle to 21 and mandate 90 day waiting period for gun purchase)
- Pro-Criminal Justice Reform
- Pro-Marijuana
- Pro-Immigration Reform

Economic:
- Fiscal responsibility
- Multipayer Healthcare is a good idea
- Capitalist
- Cut aid to tyrannical/oppressive countries
- Free trade

Foreign Policy:
- Pro-Israel
- Hawk
- Anti-Russia
- Anti-China
- Anti-Saudi
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« Reply #1356 on: September 11, 2018, 04:14:06 pm »

Abortion: uncertain, lean against (after 10 weeks or so), but I find most vocally pro life men are empathy free scum.
Drugs: legalize less dangerous drugs, decriminalize all drugs. Greatly expand access to treatment programs
Guns: don't really think about it
Immigration: Pretty much anyone should be allowed to immigrate. We should make sure to understand who's coming in and going out
National ID system: support, but don't make it easy to spy on people, etc with it.
Criminal justice reform: support, justice should be rehabilitative
LGBTQ+ rights: support. Not accepting a Trans child is abuse. Enbies should be accepted. You're a s##t person if you pretend ace/aro people don't exist.
Content warnings: support, and the abuse of the word "triggered" is disgusting
Women's rights:have far to go
Racial issues:ditto
Child abuse:cps is a disgraceful failure, taking away poor kids for little reason and failing to stop abuse in higher class families (as well as pretending emotional abuse doesn't exist)
Autistic people:should not be pathologized and demonized.
Ablism: is depressingly common in modern society. Disabled people deserve respect and consideration
Vaccines and medical care: should be mandatory. Denying your child medical care because of religious reasons especially is abuse and should result in calls to cps
Prostitution: buying should be criminal, sellers should be respected(it's immoral to buy but not to sell)

Everyone deserves Healthcare, there is no right to own things that aren't for personal use (eg land), asceticism is good, we should seek communism, meritocracy means good people get less because of lower natural ability. Protectionism in a developed economy is bad.

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« Reply #1357 on: September 14, 2018, 12:42:56 pm »

I'm gonna do one now.

Foreign Policy: I believe in expanding NATO, increasing military spending, having US troops in Ukraine, and liberating Syria, Iran, North Korea, Venezuela, Cuba, Zimbabwe, Belarus, Sudan. And continuing drone strikes to kill terrorists.
Drugs: I believe all drugs should be legal. Including meth, heroin, DMT, whatever. People are still responsible for crimes they commit while under the influence, however.
Abortion: No government ban, but also no federal funding.
LGBT: Legal SSM. Let people do whatever they want with their sexuality, government doesn't belong in it. That means it's also okay to not sell to LGBT, but you're an idiot if you're running a business and actively refusing customers.
Welfare/Social Security: I believe in ending Social Security. I think welfare should still exist for poor children and adults who prove they are responsible enough to deserve it. I do not believe anti-vaxxers should get welfare benefits.
Free Trade: Free trade is the best, I support NAFTA, TPP, and want the US more integrated in free trade and the global economy.
Education: I think the government should replace teachers with computers. It will save a lot of money.
Taxes: I believe in lower corporate rates, lower rates on high-income earners, abolishing capital gains taxes, as well abolishing estate taxes. I believe in getting tax rates as low as possible.
Minimum Wage: I don't believe in a minimum wage, certainly not increasing it either. Minimum wage jobs are to build experience, not to have a family on.
Prostitution: I believe it should be legal nationwide for any consenting person over the age of 21, to either buy or sell.
Immigration: Make it as easy as possible for people to immigrate here, without going open-borders. Background check for no criminal connections, but otherwise no restrictions on legal immigration.
Separation of Church and State: I don't believe there should be any references to religion in government. No Ten Commandments in courthouses, no religious-based policies, none of it. We are a secular nation.
Environment: I believe the free market will solve all environmental issues.
Euthanasia: Oppose on a personal basis. Lawyers should have to produce documentation that you want to die and confirm it in court before anyone has euthanasia done.
Healthcare: Repeal PPACA with no replacement, government doesn't belong in healthcare, except to provide healthcare for poor children.
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« Reply #1358 on: September 15, 2018, 09:14:07 pm »

Social issues:
- Pro-life, but can accept a 20-week ban as a compromise position.
- Pro-SSM
- LGBT should be added to civil rights laws
- Pro-Gun
- Pro-Criminal Justice Reform
- Pro-Marijuana
- Pro-Immigration Reform
- Abolish qualified immunity for police officers

Economic:
- Fiscal restraint
- Multi-payer or all-payer healthcare but with the market as the first resort.
- Capitalist
- Free trade
- Market solutions to resolve climate change
- Give states more leverage to solve major policy issues
- Repeal the 16th Amendment and replace our tax system with a Land-value tax and Pigouvian tax

Foreign Policy:
- Pro-Israel
- Realist
- Cut aid to dictatorships
- Anti-Russia
- Anti-Saudi Arabia
- Treat China as a frenemy
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« Reply #1359 on: September 18, 2018, 02:34:24 pm »

Foreign Policy: I believe that NATO should be disbanded, and that we should decrease military spending, focus on diplomacy and international dialogue, and follow an independent course in terms of foreign politics.
Drugs: Legalization of marijuana, decriminalisation of other drugs, but focus on prevention and rehabitilation. Driving while drunk or driving under influence should not be tolerated though.
Abortion: Pro-choice. If woman are against abortion, they can chose to not have an abortion when they're pregnant, but it's not my business or business of the state. Illegal abortions are also not safe and not preferrable by any means, because the government or private instutions doesn't provide a safer way.
LGBT: I support LGBTQ-rights, but we shouldn't start to pro-discriminate them which is currently happening. People are starting to feel like they're being forgotten when they're "too normal".
Welfare/Social Security: Expand. Social security might be the most important task a government has to offer their citizens. It's the only way to combat poverty, and it's the most humanitarian approach. Economic equality is very important to me.
Free Trade: Lean towards oppose. Or... at least less than now. Let's put it that way. Globalism has gone too far, and multinationals have too much of a hegemony over the market. We should focus on supporting local economy, and more protectionist measures against international corporations, but... still more than reasonable.
Education: I support free tuition fees, and would invest a lot in quality college. Education is what shapes a person and what helps them in their further life. Anything starts with going to college. That's why we should spend a lot here. I'm a proponent of the Finnish system.
Taxes: Lowering rates on middle and lower classes, higher or keeping high on high-income earners, and progressive tax system on corporations (high multinationals, less high on local corporations). Taxes should be used to provide more economic equality.
Minimum Wage: I believe in a minimum wage yes. People who work need to have a decent income. Should be up to 15 dollar / hour at least. Anything below is basically slavery.
Prostitution: Legal, starting at the age of 21, for both people who offer / make use of it.
Immigration: I believe we should be tough on immigration, but be anti-racist. But we need to stop importing poverty here, and focus on stabilizing other regions on the world. The world isn't culturally homogenous enough or tolerant enough to other cultures to have mass-immigration of this rate. Immigration should thus be tough, but correct and humane. We also need to make sure that immigrant groups already staying in our country, can truly integrate in our country.
Separation of Church and State: We should be a secular nation, and there should be no reference of religion in the state, even at school.
Environment: Climate change might be the most important issue of 21st century, so we need to take harsh measures here. We currently are not doing enough to combat climate change. We need to prioritize green energy and focus on a sustainable green economy, focus on public transport, and have a tax of 21% on meat.
Euthanasia: I support euthanasia. People have the right to die if they want too. It's also more humane that suicide efforts and it can offer a way for people to say goodbye to that person and accept it.
Healthcare: I support universal single-payer healthcare system. Healthcare is very important, and everyone should afford it. No-one should die or get sick because they simply can not afford to go to the doctor or pay a visit to the hospital.
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« Reply #1360 on: September 21, 2018, 06:36:28 pm »

Social Policy
Abortion: 100% morally Pro-life. Politically pro-life with the early exceptions.
Drugs: Legalize medical marijuana, then let states decide for recreational. Not a fan or hard drugs; do not legalize.
Censorship: Allow when misleading or false information is spread.
Gay Marriage: Support
Death penalty: Livestream executions for terrorists and war criminals. Zero tolerance.
Prostitution: Morally against, politically undecided.
Stem cell research: Support, but no killing babies.
Gun control: Against in nearly all cases.
Gambling: Natural selection in action. Allow it.

Electoral Reform
Term Limits: Support for congressmen, and against for Presidents. We should repeal the 22nd amendment.
Statehood: Statehood to all the US territories.
Voting Age: 18.
Campaign Finance Reform: Publicly finance all campaigns.
Gerrymandering: Against.
Voter ID: Fully support.

Economic Issues
Unions: Unions are the barrier between fair labor and wage slavery. I strongly support them.
Privatization: Go in the opposite direction! Nationalize the airlines, energy companies, and telecom.
Minimum Wage: Just adjust it for inflation every few years. Should not be a living wage.
Taxation: Lower taxes on those making under $200k, progressive tax otherwise
Healthcare: The system is broken but I dont support single-payer.
Trade: Support fair trade, prioritize America but don't go full protectionist. Only sign free trade agreements with labor protections.
Military: We should build up our military and intervene in direct threats.
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« Reply #1361 on: September 27, 2018, 07:24:18 am »

Foreign Policy: I'm for an internationalist and globalist foreign policy based on democratic and liberal values. Support most forms of political co-operation between the states, such as the EU. If for example Ukraine wants to join NATO, it should be able to join. Not a fan of offensive wars, but they have their place.
Drugs: Legalize marijuana and other "soft" drugs, decriminalize other drugs as a start. I'd like all drugs being legal, but I'm sceptical about that.
Abortion: Pro-choice. Against banning abortion, including late-term abortion.
LGBT: Full legal equality with heterosexuals and other sexual orientations. For marriage, adoption and other rights.
Gun control: Against. Gun control is paternalism.
Welfare/Retirement: The welfare system should be more cash based - replace food stamps, social housing etc. with cash transfers. Curious about NIT/UBI. I also think that welfare spending should be somewhat reduced. Reduce the retirement system so that it provides just a minimal amount to keep old people from being poor and promote private retirement insurance.
Free Trade: For abolition of all tariffs and for multi-lateral trade agreements to eliminate (or at least reduce) non-tariff barriers. Trade should be as free as possible.
Education: For school vouchers and more private schools.
Taxes: Curious about LVT, I think it's a good replacement to property taxes as it doesn't disincentive development as much. Shift tax burden from income taxes to consumption taxes and reduce overall taxation and spending.
Minimum Wage: Against minimum wage, as it reduces employment.
Privatization: Privatize everything except maybe natural monopolies.
Regulation: Almost always for deregulation. Particularly opposed to zoning, occupational licensing, taxi and anti-Uber regulations...
Prostitution: Should be completely legal.
Immigration: Against any immigration restrictions.
Separation of Church and State: The state should be neutral to all beliefs and non-beliefs. Against restriction of religious freedom and against promotion of religion by the state and religious symbols in state institutions.
Environment: For market-based solutions such as carbon tax or cap-and-trade.
Euthanasia: For legalizing euthanasia, as long as it's done with appropriate consent
Healthcare: For a market-based multipayer system of universal healthcare.
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« Reply #1362 on: October 01, 2018, 09:58:16 pm »

If I start going issue-by issue it will take forever, so I will break it down into three parts, summarized briefly: social issues, economic issues, and foreign policy.

On nearly all the social issues I can think of I am a libertarian and usually hold positions near the extreme end of the spectrum.  However immigration and gun control are exceptions: in both cases I hold positions very near the political center.

On economics I am more moderate.  I am not opposed in principle to either government spending or regulation, but I believe that the justification for either one has to be pretty strong.  Regulation in particular, I think is excessive: I believe the only acceptable regulations are those address an externality, an imbalance of information, or a natural monopoly, and then only if the burden is commensurate with the harm the regulation addresses.  When it comes to spending, there are more reasons I would support it, but usually only if there is also strong fiscal multiplier.  I oppose deficit spending except in times of war or a major recession, but I also don't think we'll get the debt down in my lifetime.  When it comes to taxes, I don't like them (who does?) but am more concerned with loopholes than the rate.

On foreign policy, I'm much more internationalist than movement libertarians, and I loved John McCain's "League of Democracies" idea.  I support drone assassinations and some cases of targeted air strikes, but strongly oppose offensive wars involving ground forces.  I believe free trade and cultural ties are the best way to effect regime change in dictatorships.  I am skeptical of foreign aid because of the evidence that the most popular forms are counterproductive. I think withdrawing the US from the Orwellian "United Nations Human Rights Council" is one of the only things Trump got right, and I would like to kick the UN out of New York City as well, so that foreign dictators with outstanding travel bans can't speak at Columbia University or go shopping on Fifth Avenue.
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« Reply #1363 on: October 13, 2018, 12:50:43 pm »

I don't know if I ever answered this thread before, but here we go. I'm going to include some issues that are hotly debated in the US even if they are not in Denmark.

Abortion: I support abortion rights, but with a time limit. In Denmark we have free access to abortions during the first trimester, with some exceptions being made up to 20 weeks. It seems to work well. Crucially, sex education is super important.

Affirmative action: Bill O'Reilly's beloved "White christian straight male power structure" is very real and it needs to be challenged to give minorities and women equal chances. Therefore I tend to support various versions of preferential treatment for minorities and women (or even men in some female dominated areas), with the caveat that these are meant to be icebreakers to change said power structure, not as permanent fixtures.

Immigration: I have nothing whatsoever against immigrants. I'm not afraid of brown people or muslims. Quite the contrary, actually. I have a lot of empathy for those people, because they don't have it easy in Denmark these days. However, I am sick of losing elections over this issue - this issue alone has caused the progressive side to lose 4 of the last 5 parliamentary elections in Denmark (every election since 2001, except the one in 2011). The fact is that many people are deeply concerned about the cultural impact of third-world immigration and we have to take that concern seriously. That's why I am ok with a somewhat strict immigration policy, even if I don't actual like that policy myself. However, I am TOTALLY against all the initiatives that are basically designed to harrass muslims. I think we need to do MUCH more to make immigrants actually feel at home here and as it currently is, I certainly can't blame immigrants for not feeling at home, because the overall sentiment in danish politics and danish media is heavily anti-immigrant and even more heavily anti-muslim. As for the US, I believe that Donald Trump won because of this issue and I think Democrats should take it seriously. If democrats are perceived (however wrongly) as being the party of unlimited immigration, they will lose again.

Crime: I support being massively more lenient in the criminal system. Alternative methods of punishment should be used far more and funds are better spent on prevention and resocialization programs than on keeping people locked up. I am obviously against the death penalty.

Gun control:If you had a well-functioning country basically without guns, would you support allowing for people to buy guns at will?? I think any reasonable person would answer "NO!" to that question, which is why it for Europeans seems nonsensical that Americans cling to their guns the way they do. I realize that getting rid of guns in the US is not going to be easy, but they did it in Australia, so it is not impossible.

LGBTQ-issues: I support equal rights for everyone. Always have, always will.

The environment/climate change: MASSIVE initiatives needs to be taken to battle global warming and it needs to happen now. The Paris treaty was just a baby step. All wealthy nations need to pour massive resources into scientific research and we need strict CO2-quotas for all to follow. Countries that do not follow suit should be heavily sanctioned.

Taxes: I support fairly high levels of taxes and in particular higher taxes on property, resource use and inheritance.

Trade:I support REGULATED free trade, not the libertarian version of free trade. But regulated free trade make us all richer.

Health-care: Access to health care is a human right. I fully support a single-payer universal health care model.

Automation:Automation is GREAT. It makes humanity richer and allows for us to have more interesting, less physically demanding and probably better paying jobs. If you don't agree with this think about whether you'd really like to go back to the early 1800s.

Education: Education should be governmentally funded. In Denmark we get paid to take an education. I realize that this might not be an immediately feasible solution for many countries, but ideally I think it is a great system.

Benefits: I support a strong social security net. Western countries are so rich that nobody should be poor, period. The government needs to provide funds for a decent life for anybody who can't find work or simply cannot work.

Minimum wage: In Denmark we don't have a legal minimum wage, as we have strong enough unions to take care of the issue. The de facto minimum wage is around $17-18. I certainly support a higher minimum wage in the States but don't have any strong feelings as to what exactly the level should be at.

Foreign Policy:
The western world needs the US to return to the Obama years of being a general force for good in the world. We cannot take peace for granted. The peaceful times we have had in the west since WW2 has happened for a reason. Without a strong US it is far from certain that it would have been as peaceful. But for the US to remain strong, they need to stop fighting unwinnable wars. The wars in the middle east were a mistake and should not be repeated.

Voter reform/election reform: Automated national registration at 18 years of age. Voting rights are RIGHTS, you should not be able to lose those under any circumstances, which means that felons should also be able to vote. Gerrymandering should be outlawed - all congressional districts should be drawn by nonpartisan boards. Ideally a proportional voting system should be adopted, but that is probably unrealistic. I support the national popular vote initiative, since I don't believe the electoral college will be abolished. Another unrealistic idea is that ideally I'd like to see the senate abolished as it gives way to much power to microstates, which do not even form a sociocultural unit in any meaningful fashion other than geographical proximity (much more important if you are urban or rural, black or white, rich or poor, well educated or not, or male or female than if you live in Iowa or Minnesota).

Drugs/prostitution: I generally don't believe in criminalizing behaviour that only hurts the actual people involved in the acts. Furthermore, I don't think criminazation accomplishes anything. So I support the legalization of prostitution and drugs. Both should be combated but in different ways than through the legal system.

The budget: It is generally nonsense to regard it is important to "balance the budget". A public budget does not need to balance, but it IS wise to avoid debt levels getting out of control. The US running trillion dollar deficits during a boom is most definitely NOT responsible fiscal policy. If the US should ever run a surplus it should be right now while the economy is booming and unemployment is very low. During a boom is the BEST time to raise taxes, so the US should get on with that immediately (as if that's going to happen....).
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« Reply #1364 on: October 18, 2018, 12:07:23 pm »

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Abortion: Personally I'm pro-life, but allow for first trimester only, as well as no sex selective abortion. Women getting safe abortions is better than in an alley ig.
Drugs: Decriminalize some drugs like marijuana
Censorship: No
Gay Marriage: Gay people should be allowed to get married
Death penalty: Legal for war criminals/terrorists, as well as for people who commit industrial crimes (DuPont dumping chemicals in the water)
Prostitution: Keep it illegal
Stem cell research: Conflicted feelings
Gun control: The 2nd amendment asserts the right of every American to bear arms, and we should keep it that way
Assisted suicide: Legal for terminal illnesses and the like
Gambling: Casinos should stay illegal

Electoral Reform
Term Limits: No term limits
Voting Age: Stay the same
Campaign Finance Reform: Publicly financing is an ok idea, definitely ban corporate donations
Gerrymandering: Bad

Economic Issues
Unions: Unions protect the working class, extremely good
Privatization: No, nationalize some industries instead
Minimum Wage: $15 + adjust for inflation
Taxation: Lower taxes on the middle/lower classes and higher on the highest earners
Healthcare: Universal healthcare system
Trade: Support fair trade, prioritize America but don't go full protectionist. Only sign free trade agreements with labor protections.
Military: Scale back the military, withdraw troops slowly from Middle East

Foreign Policy
War: No wars of aggression
Israel-Palestine: Very messy, just don't bother
UN: Remain in UN, but less involvement
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« Reply #1365 on: October 29, 2018, 12:43:33 pm »

Social Policy
Abortion: Pro-life. If you have a baby it's your own fault not the baby's so it's wrong to kill it just because you were being stupid. Exceptions include rape, incest, and the like.
Drugs: Legalize medicinal, not recreational.
Censorship: Only in the most extreme cases, eg. porn
Gay Marriage: Support.
Death penalty: Only in the most extreme cases, eg. mass shootings.
Prostitution: Should be illegal.
Church and State: Keep separate.
Stem cell research: Support, as long as no babies are killed.
PATRIOT Act: Mildly against. Personal rights and national security must be balanced.
Gun control: For. It's been my view that an American citizen who hasn't committed crimes should be able to get guns (not AR-15s and the like though) even under strong regulations.
Assisted suicide: For. It's their choice.
Gambling: I wouldn't do it but people should get to choose whether to meme themselves or not.

Electoral Reform
Term Limits: Against. No need, except for presidential term limits.
Statehood: Give PR statehood, idk about the other territories since they are too small.
Voting Age: Lower to 16. Probably will change once I get older lol.
Campaign Finance Reform: Companies should be able to donate money if they want to. Still, limits should be imposed.
Gerrymandering: Against. Nonpartisan committees should draw boundaries for all states. I would support a constitutional amendment on this issue.
Voter ID: Against. Voter suppression tactic.

Economic Issues
Unions: I support the right to organize, provided they aren't used as excuses for poor performance.
Privatization: Let's keep things as they are. Obviously prison privatization is a human rights disaster, but in other areas it's not so bad...
Minimum Wage: Let's keep it as it is.
Taxation: Lessen the slope of incremental tax, the rich work hard for their money and shouldn't be forced to give it up, but it's important to fund government programs at the same time. There shouldn't be new taxes, government needs to be more efficient with revenue.
Healthcare: Universal healthcare would be nice but would cost a ton. Personally, I'm good with the ACA.
Trade: Free trade best trade!
Military: Strike a balance between protecting liberty around the world/protecting against domestic terrorism and not wasting funds that could go to worthier domestic causes. I would support some cuts.

Foreign Policy
War: Only if human rights violations are clearly being committed, or to defend an ally (eg. South Korea)
Israel-Palestine: Neutral.
Draft: Don't really know. Hopefully there won't be a war to trigger one.
UN: Stay in, the US must remain involved in world affairs as a voice for human rights.
Nukes: Nuclear war bad, so try and get other countries to disarm instead of pissing them off by withdrawing from treaties.
Foreign Aid: Only give to nations with democratic ideology.
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« Reply #1366 on: November 08, 2018, 12:43:35 pm »

Social Policy
Abortion: Personally not a fan, but pro-choice. Open to a ban after the first trimester.

Drugs: Decriminalize all, legalize most.

Gay Marriage: Support.

Death penalty: Permitting the government to kill its citizens is the slippiest slope.

Prostitution: Decriminalize.

Church and State: Politicians can base their votes on whatever they want. Don't establish a national religion or discriminate, obviously.

Stem cell research: Support

PATRIOT Act: Strongly support repeal. Also reform the intelligence apparatus and bring it under Congressional review. Auditing the NSA > auditing the Federal Reserve.

Gun control: I really don't care.

Assisted suicide: Again I personally have a problem with it, but this I can't decide one way or another.

Gambling: Its my problem if you're an idiot.

Electoral Reform
Term Limits: We already have elections

Statehood: Statehood for all territories and DC.

Voting Age: Lower to 16

Campaign Finance Reform: Publicly finance all campaigns, overturn Citizens United and ban corporate donations.

Gerrymandering: Disgusting, but Democrats need to level the playing field.

Voter ID: Bad solution to a non-existent problem.

Institutional Reform: Strongly support increasing the House to 995 members and reforming the Senate into a proportional representation system.

Economic Issues
Unions: Strongly support.

Privatization: Hell no.

Minimum Wage: $11, indexed to age of the employee, area economy, and inflation

Taxation: Repeal the 2017 tax bill, expand credits and deductions for low-income (especially families with children). End welfare cliffs.

Healthcare: Multiplayer market solution

Trade: Strongly support free trade, but agreements should contain provisos for labor protections

Military: Maintain current levels or scale back slightly

Foreign Policy
War: Only to protect human rights (Bosnia) or if attacked first

Israel-Palestine: Lean pro-Israel, but criticism of Israel is not anti-semitism.

Draft: We don't need it anymore. Abolish.

UN: Strongly support it

Foreign aid: Expand, but cut off support with totalitarian regimes (e.g. Iran, Saudi, Russia).
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« Reply #1367 on: November 25, 2018, 05:02:51 am »

Since I don't think I've done one of these before...

Overview:
Social: Left
Economic: Left
Foreign: Centrist, I guess?
Party Affiliation: Democratic

Social Policy:
Abortion: Strongly pro-choice until fetal viability.
Same-Sex Marriage: Strongly support, obviously.
Drug Laws: Legalize marijuana, or at minimum decriminalize it. Treat drug addiction as a medical condition that needs treatment, not a crime.
Death Penalty: Support for particularly heinous crimes where there is no doubt whatsoever that the person is guilty.
Gun Control: Standardize the background check system, close the loopholes, and ban military style assault weapons. I don't support blanket gun bans.
Religious Freedom: Who doesn't support religious freedom? Seems like this is code for something else.
Affirmative Action: Generally support, but it tends to depend on how it is implemented.
Political Correctness: People who are overly politically correct are annoying, but I've tended to notice that most people who complain non stop about "political correctness" are just mad they can't use the N word in public anymore without getting called out for it.
Euthanasia: Strongly support. People should have the right to have a painless and dignified death if they so choose. Nobody should have the right to take their agency away from them.
Prostitution: Legalize it, or at the very least decriminalize it.
Immigration: I support comprehensive immigration reform. Give the Dreamers immediate citizenship, give those already here who aren't criminals a reasonable and non draconian path to citizenship, secure the border. I'd even give Trump his stupid, pointless, money wasting wall if it was included in a comprehensive and reasonable bill. I don't support open borders.

Economic Policy:
Minimum Wage: The nationwide floor should be around $12, indexed for inflation. States/cities with a higher cost of living should be encouraged to raise theirs higher.
Right to Work: Oppose. The decline of unions has had a horrendous impact on the American middle class.
Taxation: Raise taxes for corporations and the super wealthy.
Healthcare: Ideally a Canadian or European style universal healthcare system, but I recognize it will take America a long time to get there, if we ever do. I support whatever steps will expand healthcare in the meantime. Obamacare (particularly Medicaid expansion) was a good start, but we need to go further.
Education: The American education system is abysmal. Our schools are underfunded, our teachers are underpaid, and we're not preparing the future generations with the knowledge and skills they need to be successful. Not only that, we burden our future generations with massive amounts of student debt. Tuition at public colleges should be low cost or free.
Free Trade: No opinion. This has always been the one "major issue" I have little interest/investment in. I've read about it at times and hear convincing arguments from both sides, and haven't fully bought into one or the other.

Foreign Policy and National Security:
I would say I'm a foreign policy realist. I oppose both neoconservatism and isolationism. I think potential and current conflicts should be evaluated on a case by case basis. Diplomacy, sanctions, etc. should always be exhausted before entering into a conflict, but sometimes conflict is inevitable. I support a two state solution for Israel/Palestine. Russia is a hostile adversary that needs to continue to face serious consequences for interfering in our election, and our current president cozying up to Putin and refusing to acknowledge his attacks on our democracy is disgusting.

Environment:
Climate Change: Exists obviously, but I'm a bit of nihilist here. I honestly don't think the status quo is ever going to change until it's too late. Luckily I won't have kids so the potential destruction of the world won't affect me. But the same won't apply to all the rich people destroying the environment for the sake of profits.

Electoral and Political Reform:
Term limits: It's an intriguing idea, but I'm not sure it would do much to fix the problems it professes to solve. I'd be open to hearing opposing arguments on this though.
Electoral College Reform: Abolish the archaic anachronism already.
Voter ID: Support, but only if IDs are free and easily accessible. Otherwise it's an unconstitutional poll tax and/or attempt at voter suppression, so I oppose most voter ID laws in their current form.
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« Reply #1368 on: November 25, 2018, 08:43:52 pm »

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« Reply #1369 on: November 26, 2018, 02:33:18 am »

Overview:
Social: Left
Economic: Left
Foreign: non-interventionist
Party Affiliation: Democratic

Social Policy:
Abortion: I can't really justify it, but at the same time I can't really justify banning it, so pretty neutral I guess. Not an issue I care about that much.
Same-Sex Marriage: Strongly support, obviously.
Drug Laws: FREE THE WEED (and everything else!). Pardon everyone convicted of drug offenses.
Death Penalty: Usually oppose as I can't justify giving our justice system that power, but there are a few people who I wouldn't be sad to see go.
Gun Control: Nope.
Religious Freedom: Too broad and vague, if you're talking about the dogwhistle then no but if you take it literally then of course
Affirmative Action: Not a fan, instead we should implement reduced/free tuition, especially for low income people
Political Correctness: Who cares? People who obsess over it are dumb@sses.
Euthanasia: See abortion.
Prostitution: Arresting prostitutes is a bad move. Legalize it I guess.
Immigration: Just leave people be. They came, they're here, so what?
Criminal justice: Ohh boy. Yeah, basically take the most left wing view on everything related to this and I have it.

Economic Policy:
Minimum Wage: It's good to have a minimum wage. Preferably one that's high enough for people to actually be able to afford basic needs.
Right to Work: F**k you, Scott Walker
Taxation: Higher taxes on the rich, lower on everyone else
Healthcare: Universal healthcare is the only way to go (and with that, single payer).
Education: As someone who's part of the American education system, it's...bad. But going in and teaching people to be good little obedient workers ain't good either. Obviously increase funding to the underfunded schools (which really need some funding). For college, make it reduced cost or tuition free. Also, waive all student debt.
Free Trade: Unrestricted free trade is bad, mostly cause I really, really can't trust a lot of the multinational corporations. But, protectionism and tariffs don't work either. I'm good with it as long as the people on both sides of it are benefiting and performing fair labor (no sweatshops for example).

Foreign Policy and National Security:
Most of the time we try to go to war, it, well, just doesn't work. Also, antagonizing countries is a bad strategy, as is supporting sh!tty dictators (supporting and supplying the Saudis now is just like supporting Pinochet or the Contras during the Cold War). Just, respect everyone that's respectable.

If we could ever get true bilateral nuclear disarmament that would be great, but sadly it ain't happening anytime soon.

I'm pro-privacy and oppose surveillance state measures disguised as "national security". Also, the 1st amendment is great.

Environment:
Climate Change: It's here and it's bad. Ideally we'd switch as soon as possible to purely renewable energy but again that ain't happening.

Electoral and Political Reform:
Term limits: Nah.
Electoral College Reform: Get rid of it
Voter ID: Nationwide vote by mail
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« Reply #1370 on: November 26, 2018, 02:59:34 am »

Overview:
Social: Left
Economic: Centrist
Foreign: Left
Party Affiliation: Democratic

Social Policy:
Abortion: Hate discussing this issue. But pro choice obviously. I am also pro condom and pro birth control to prevent these situations as well. Personally very opposed.. residual mormonism.
Same-Sex Marriage: Support obviously.
Drug Laws: Regulated marijuana like alcohol. Decriminalize other drugs
Death Penalty: Opposed. Once it is done there is no going back.
Gun Control: Not sure why the left thinks we can go to every one and confiscate firearms. I am open to compromise and requiring background checks before purchasing weapons.
Religious Freedom: Keep it out of my face but I am okay with religious freedom. I am proud not to have a religion anymore.
Euthanasia: Support in some circumstances.
Prostitution: Legalize it/non issue. Cold button
Immigration: Open borders and try to distribute immigrants evenly throughout the United States. We need to become more diverse and colorful. Ensure that after 1 year of continous residency that they are able to vote in local and state elections at least even before citizenship. Have both English and Spanish as official languages of the United States.

Economic Policy:
Minimum Wage: Should be decided on a local/state basis only.  I voted Yes on 12.00 in Missouri by 2022.
Right to Work: Opposed but we must nuke all public sector unions.
Taxation: Strong opposition to local property taxes especially as a way to fund schools. Creates extreme inequality from the start. Property taxes have damaged Illinois greatly. Just say no to property taxes. Support income taxes and sales taxes. Am even okay with robot taxes even if I believe that job loss due to automation is way overblown. Lower rates and close most loop holes for the federal government. It is imperative that we do not over tax locally as people will leave and decrease revenue. My plan for Illinois would be to abolish property taxes statewide and in opportunity zones abolish sales taxes. Watch revenue increase at that point!
Healthcare: Support medicare for all even if more bare bones than I want. This will reduce the need for other social program spending as we will have a healthier country.
Education: As I stated earlier: NO PROPERTY TAXES TO FUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS That is one of the worst aspects of American education. Just no. Should be funded on a statewide level. College has been oversold especially the FOUR YEAR DEGREE! In the future economy the technical skills are far more important.o opinion.
Free Trade: Support very strongly. No, NAFTA did not kill manufacturing jobs in the Midwest. Outsourcing and automation to a lesser extent did. It has helped keep inflation under control and our cost of living low. NAFTA created a huge net gain of jobs. Strongly opposed to most tariffs and strongly supported TPP. Free trade and free markets are for the best.  Though I wanting more protection of workers in those agreements.

Foreign Policy and National Security:
Very much a dove in this respect. I do not want our country to be a military superpower. We have a national debt of 21 trillion.  We simply can not afford it. Diplomacy is much more effective compared to force.  We should not be the anti-Islam face of the world. That only increases the chance of a terrorist attack.

Environment:
Climate Change: At this point there is little reversal on it. I literally will not move to my ideal state for climate, Florida, due to knowledge that natural disasters will become more frequent. A small part of why I moved back to St. Louis from Utah is due reading an article in the Salt Lake Tribune once about Utah's impeding water shortage of the future. Desalination may save California but we may not be able to transport that water to the interior west. Moisture may even increase overall in the interior west with climate change but rain is not as efficient as snow when it comes to water storage. Even if the monsoons become more powerful and provide more moisture it is so hot in Arizona and much of the interior west that it will evaporate right up in the summer.  The safest place to live may be the Midwest in the United States but climate change will have a agricultural impact here and cause much of the midwest to have very polarized climates. Very hot and humid summers but still having very cold winters.

Basically I am opposed to people moving to the states of Florida, Utah, Nevada and Arizona.

Electoral and Political Reform:

1) Abolish the US Senate. Bye bye!
2) Elect the attorney general every midterm year. The attorney general office needs to be independent from the rest of the executive branch.
3) Federal judges should be limited to 10 year terms. Renewable once.
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« Reply #1371 on: November 28, 2018, 11:10:37 pm »

Haven't done this for a while, and I feel like my views have shifted a tad.

SUMMARY
Social: Center left
Economic: Center right
Foreign: Rather interventionist
Party Affiliation: Republican

SOCIAL POLICY
Abortion: I support Roe v. Wade and generally fall under the umbrella of "pro-choice."  However, I have serious moral qualms with abortion, and I am incredibly turned off by a lot of "liberal" rhetoric on the issue (this issue brings out some of the worst of tribalism).  I absolutely support some type of third trimester ban (except for the big three exceptions), though I would defer to someone with some more medical knowledge than I have to determine the cutoff (which will, of course, inevitably be somewhat arbitrary).
Same-Sex Marriage: I support it, no exceptions.
Drug Laws: I think states should be able to decide RE: marijuana, but I think drug use in general should be decriminalized, with the punishment falling on the large scale dealers.  No kid should face jail time or have their job prospects shattered for being one of the many college kids who comes across drugs and trying it/being that unlucky that they get caught.
Death Penalty: In general, I support its existence ... I have a hard time articulating this view, as there is no perfect "rule" of when to use it that I can land on.  However, I do strongly believe that it is an appropriate punishment for certain cases.
Gun Control: I am generally quite skeptical.  I am sympathetic to the Second Amendment and to the arguments that defend not altering it too much.  I would support common sense measures like background checks and waiting periods, but anything else is Constitutionally dubious and won't help the problem much.
Religious Freedom: Follow the precedent of past civil rights legislation and the Interstate Commerce Clause.
Affirmative Action: I support it for SES, but I am quite skeptical of affirmative action on the basis of race, specifically for minority groups with higher-than-average SES (like Asian-Americans).
Political Correctness: Try not to offend people ... there isn't a "law" that can make a meaningful impact here, IMO.  Rational people can see where the line of common sense is.
Euthanasia: Though I have some real reservations about this morally, I have not arrived at a reason to oppose people's right to die with dignity.  My uncomfortably with the state systematically condoning the killing of innocents (even if the innocents have asked for it) is slightly outweighed by sympathy for the patients who desire that type of ending.
Prostitution: This is a "live and let live" position that I strongly disagree with.  While a prostitute should never be in legal trouble for having to resort to that, prostitution must absolutely remain illegal.  Forgetting for a second the moral decay (unironic use) that would ensue, it enables the sex trade.
Environment: I am in favor of measures to preserve and protect our environment.  While regulations to do both can and should be balanced with policies that encourage the business community and private sector to thrive, punishment for breaking environmental regulations needs to be severe, and incentives for green policies should be generous.
Immigration: It is impractical (especially financially) to deport illegal immigrants that are already here, with the exception of ones that are identified as having committed minor crimes (ones who commit major crimes should be detained here).  However, a mark of a civilized country is to have border security that at least enables you to know who and what are entering your borders.  You owe that to your citizens, period.  I would support a pathway to citizenship for those already here (and amnesty for the crime of immigrating here illegally) and an intentional effort to secure our borders.  Most of my issue with more "conservative" thinking on this issue is with unwelcoming rhetoric that phrases the desire for border security in an unfair and unsavory light ... it's common sense to monitor immigration into your country and to make sure there is security.  How that somehow got associated with any type of "backward" thinking is absurd.

ECONOMIC POLICY
Minimum Wage: Have a federal minimum wage around $10.00 and let cities or states adopt higher ones if they desire to.  Index it to inflation, of course.
Right to Work: I'm rather conflicted, but I lean toward support.
Taxation: Current rates are fine, especially the new corporate ones.
Regulation: Regulation in general targets the wrong sort of companies and fails to truly alter the practices of the companies who acted irresponsibly in the first place.  We obviously need regulations on businesses, but in general what we have now has too much red tape that only ends up passing costs to consumers and lowering wages.
Healthcare: I would support a slightly more conservative version of Obamacare.  Most of my issue with liberal healthcare proposals is that they are too "one size fits all."  It seems to be an obsession of liberals to make everything uniform and under government regulation, but subsidies and whatnot for lower income individuals are a much better idea.  My other major issue with Obamacare is that it was intentionally designed to create a demand for government-run healthcare by making the fine for not offering healthcare less than the cost of providing it to your employees ... it's literally the worst of both worlds.
Free Trade: While human rights conditions and whatnot need to be considered, free trade is the best trade.

FOREIGN POLICY
I have a meeting coming up anyway (Tongue), but I also wanted to keep this one vague since it is a vague issue.  I generally believe that, post-World War II, we have assumed a responsibility (for better or for worse) as the leader and prime example for the free world and democratic West; a critic might call this the "world's police."  We obviously can't get involved in every conflict everywhere, but it is both in our interest and in the world's interest for the Untied States to be a leader in promoting democracy and human rights across the world.  Sometimes, this is inevitably going to mean military involvement.



Not going to bother writing my own post when someone has basically done it for me. Smiley

I'm an Independent though, not a Republican.

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« Reply #1372 on: November 30, 2018, 05:09:27 pm »

Economic and Fiscal Issues : Extreme Conservative
Foreign Policy : Conservative
Domestic Issues: Very Conservative
Social Issues : Centerist
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« Reply #1373 on: December 10, 2018, 11:41:10 pm »

Last time I took the political matrix test (a long while ago) I shifted slightly left economically and a lot to the right socially. I just took the test again and shifted to the right on both.

Economic: Was: -7.81, Now: -5.61 (Change +2.20)

Social: Was: -4.96, Now: -3.57 (Change +1.39)



"Your score pegs you as economically leftist and socially moderately libertarian.

Economic leftists mostly support strict economic controls and programs to assure that the poor are elevated to a higher position in society.

Moderate social libertarians generally favor a hands-off approach to social legislation. They may believe that the government has no right to enforce morals, but may support certain controls on individual rights to avoid crime, drug use, or similar social ills."

Mostly accurate, note "mostly," "generally" "may support certain controls" as some exceptions occur parting my views from the representation in the blurb. Especially agree with the elevating the poor portion.
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Former Parties: Labor, Federalist (in Fed. Main Street Partnership), Independent, Atlas Liberal Democrat, Altasia Conservation Party
Former State, District of Residency: North Carolina, Nyman

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« Reply #1374 on: December 15, 2018, 05:08:51 pm »

mixture rand paul and trump.
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