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« Reply #925 on: January 26, 2014, 09:20:04 pm »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!


May I be the first to say that you make me, as a gay man, an atheist, a man who thinks government shouldn't control what you put in your body, a man who believes that those who can afford it should give back to the community, who believes that science should lead the way on issues of women's health and that women shouldn't be made to carry their rapist's baby, that our military is bloated and needs to be cut, and that everyone deserves a basic standard of living, sick? I think you might find a certain other Vladimir to be a good friend of yours.
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« Reply #926 on: January 27, 2014, 03:47:59 am »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!

...Do you really have Hitler quotes in your signature?
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« Reply #927 on: January 27, 2014, 01:25:18 pm »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!

...Do you really have Hitler quotes in your signature?

No, the second one's Goebbels IIRC.
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« Reply #928 on: February 08, 2014, 12:29:37 pm »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!


May I be the first to say that you make me, as a gay man, an atheist, a man who thinks government shouldn't control what you put in your body, a man who believes that those who can afford it should give back to the community, who believes that science should lead the way on issues of women's health and that women shouldn't be made to carry their rapist's baby, that our military is bloated and needs to be cut, and that everyone deserves a basic standard of living, sick? I think you might find a certain other Vladimir to be a good friend of yours.

Are you really losing your sh*t to an obvious troll?

Then again, I'd probably do the same thing.  THese trolls are like watching a train wreck.  So horrible, but you just got to watch.
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« Reply #929 on: February 16, 2014, 11:26:20 am »

Social Policy:
Abortion: If contraception and comprehensive sex education were freely available, abortion wouldn't even be such a huge issue. Until we correct these problems, we should keep all abortions, for women of all ages, safe and legal.
Gay Marriage: There is literally no reason not to legalize gay marriage.
Drugs: Legalize, tax, and regulate all currently scheduled drugs.
Stem Cell Research: Stem cells save lives. Fund the heck out of research.
Death Penalty: The state shouldn't endorse murder.
Gun control: I support background checks, nothing more.
Church and State: "In God We Trust", "E Pluribus Unum", etc. need to go.
Affirmative Action: I support class-based affirmative action.
Prostitution: Legalize!
Education: See: Finland. Also, school vouchers aren't such a bad idea.
Immigration: Bush II's immigration proposals were pretty nice. Also, the DREAM Act is great.
Euthanasia: Suicide is a right

Economic Issues:
Minimum Wage: Increase, increase, increase.
Welfare: We need to take care of those who can't work or can't find work.
Right-to-Work: Do you mean, right-to-be-subjugated?
Taxation: We're grossly under-taxed--especially our corporate overlords.
Healthcare: Obamacare doesn't go far enough. Start a public option.
Social Security: Raise the retirement age and payroll taxes.
Trade: I'm a tentative supporter of free trade. Overall, free trade should benefit the worker and not faceless corporations.
Deficit Spending: Deficits are not uniquely bad.
Debt Ceiling: Why is this even an issue?

Foreign Policy and National Security
Afghanistan: Pull out.
Iran: They're not a threat.
Syria: Doesn't matter.
Cuba: Greatest country in the world. End the travel ban and the trade embargo. Take some lessons from Fidel.
Military Spending: Abolish the military.
PATRIOT Act: Repeal.
NSA Spying: Totally ridiculous.
Palestine: The U.S. needs to stop being Israel's little lapdog. Palestine deserves statehood.

Environment
Climate Change: Climate change is an issue, and people who don't think so are blind.
Green Energy: Ramp up investment.
Keystone XL Pipeline: Tentative supporter.

Elector Reform
Electoral College: Why is it even still around?
Gerrymandering: All districts should be drawn by the voters themselves.
Term limits: I support term limits for members of Congress and federal judges.
Campaign Finance Reform: Corporates are so not people.
Voter ID: Might as well support it. After all, we don't want voter fraud.
Compulsory Voting: No.
Voting Rights Act Preclearance: All fifty states should be required to gain preclearance under the VRA.
Statehood: If a majority of citizens in a territory support statehood for that territory, then that territory should be a state.
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« Reply #930 on: February 16, 2014, 11:28:42 am »

99% of what you believe makes me cry tears of joy, but I'm not sure if the Voter ID thing is sarcasm or not. Also, why the E Pluribus Unum hate?
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« Reply #931 on: February 16, 2014, 11:53:17 am »

99% of what you believe makes me cry tears of joy, but I'm not sure if the Voter ID thing is sarcasm or not. Also, why the E Pluribus Unum hate?
The Voter ID thing is not sarcasm. If you're 18 years of age and want to take part in the political process, I don't necessarily see the wrong in having to provide a photo ID at the polls.

E pluribus unum, when it became our motto, essentially meant "out of many rich white slaveowners, one elitist society composed of rich white slaveowners". That is still basically true (switch out African-Americans with the average laborer, and you still have slaveowners in corporate boardrooms), and the connotations of the motto just bother the hell out of me.
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« Reply #932 on: February 16, 2014, 12:36:56 pm »

99% of what you believe makes me cry tears of joy, but I'm not sure if the Voter ID thing is sarcasm or not. Also, why the E Pluribus Unum hate?
The Voter ID thing is not sarcasm. If you're 18 years of age and want to take part in the political process, I don't necessarily see the wrong in having to provide a photo ID at the polls.

E pluribus unum, when it became our motto, essentially meant "out of many rich white slaveowners, one elitist society composed of rich white slaveowners". That is still basically true (switch out African-Americans with the average laborer, and you still have slaveowners in corporate boardrooms), and the connotations of the motto just bother the hell out of me.

On the voter ID thing, you seem to be assuming that everyone has a photo ID, which is simply not true. Those sorts of laws have been shown again and again to disenfranchise legitimate voters at basically no benefit to the integrity of the system - the number of voter impersonation cases in every election is negligible.

Of course, it's rather obvious that old-timey America was a terrible place with slavery and all those things, but (and here I go being all idealistic with my head in the clouds) the whole point of America is, as I see it, the place where anyone can come and forge a new life, get ahead, raise a family if they want, yada yada yada. The reality of that vision is, sadly, basically not true at all in today's society, but mottoes are about ideals. If national mottoes reflected a country's history, most of them would be depressing as .

Also, you can have your beliefs, but I'm not a fan of comparing the current conditions of the non-wealthy to slavery, no matter how bad they are.
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« Reply #933 on: February 16, 2014, 12:45:05 pm »

99% of what you believe makes me cry tears of joy, but I'm not sure if the Voter ID thing is sarcasm or not. Also, why the E Pluribus Unum hate?
The Voter ID thing is not sarcasm. If you're 18 years of age and want to take part in the political process, I don't necessarily see the wrong in having to provide a photo ID at the polls.

E pluribus unum, when it became our motto, essentially meant "out of many rich white slaveowners, one elitist society composed of rich white slaveowners". That is still basically true (switch out African-Americans with the average laborer, and you still have slaveowners in corporate boardrooms), and the connotations of the motto just bother the hell out of me.

On the voter ID thing, you seem to be assuming that everyone has a photo ID, which is simply not true. Those sorts of laws have been shown again and again to disenfranchise legitimate voters at basically no benefit to the integrity of the system - the number of voter impersonation cases in every election is negligible.

Of course, it's rather obvious that old-timey America was a terrible place with slavery and all those things, but (and here I go being all idealistic with my head in the clouds) the whole point of America is, as I see it, the place where anyone can come and forge a new life, get ahead, raise a family if they want, yada yada yada. The reality of that vision is, sadly, basically not true at all in today's society, but mottoes are about ideals. If national mottoes reflected a country's history, most of them would be depressing as .

Also, you can have your beliefs, but I'm not a fan of comparing the current conditions of the non-wealthy to slavery, no matter how bad they are.
I don't see America that way, but we're all entitled to our beliefs. Probably my problem with the motto is that I'm a solid non-patriot and think that the Founders were sort of circle-jerking when they came up with these mottoes etc. etc. about liberty and equality, but that's just me.
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« Reply #934 on: February 16, 2014, 12:50:37 pm »

99% of what you believe makes me cry tears of joy, but I'm not sure if the Voter ID thing is sarcasm or not. Also, why the E Pluribus Unum hate?
The Voter ID thing is not sarcasm. If you're 18 years of age and want to take part in the political process, I don't necessarily see the wrong in having to provide a photo ID at the polls.

E pluribus unum, when it became our motto, essentially meant "out of many rich white slaveowners, one elitist society composed of rich white slaveowners". That is still basically true (switch out African-Americans with the average laborer, and you still have slaveowners in corporate boardrooms), and the connotations of the motto just bother the hell out of me.

On the voter ID thing, you seem to be assuming that everyone has a photo ID, which is simply not true. Those sorts of laws have been shown again and again to disenfranchise legitimate voters at basically no benefit to the integrity of the system - the number of voter impersonation cases in every election is negligible.

Of course, it's rather obvious that old-timey America was a terrible place with slavery and all those things, but (and here I go being all idealistic with my head in the clouds) the whole point of America is, as I see it, the place where anyone can come and forge a new life, get ahead, raise a family if they want, yada yada yada. The reality of that vision is, sadly, basically not true at all in today's society, but mottoes are about ideals. If national mottoes reflected a country's history, most of them would be depressing as .

Also, you can have your beliefs, but I'm not a fan of comparing the current conditions of the non-wealthy to slavery, no matter how bad they are.
I don't see America that way, but we're all entitled to our beliefs. Probably my problem with the motto is that I'm a solid non-patriot and think that the Founders were sort of circle-jerking when they came up with these mottoes etc. etc. about liberty and equality, but that's just me.

Well, they were (except Thomas Paine, the underrated bro that he is), but I believe we can make America better. I mean, yeah, deep down we're just constrained by random lines drawn on maps and I could easily drive over to Toronto right now, but I think change is possible, even though it may seem hard.

Let's have an everyone's-entitled-to-their-beliefs party! We can bring Ken Ham and everyone on Conservative Political Forum.
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« Reply #935 on: February 16, 2014, 12:54:50 pm »

99% of what you believe makes me cry tears of joy, but I'm not sure if the Voter ID thing is sarcasm or not. Also, why the E Pluribus Unum hate?
The Voter ID thing is not sarcasm. If you're 18 years of age and want to take part in the political process, I don't necessarily see the wrong in having to provide a photo ID at the polls.

E pluribus unum, when it became our motto, essentially meant "out of many rich white slaveowners, one elitist society composed of rich white slaveowners". That is still basically true (switch out African-Americans with the average laborer, and you still have slaveowners in corporate boardrooms), and the connotations of the motto just bother the hell out of me.

On the voter ID thing, you seem to be assuming that everyone has a photo ID, which is simply not true. Those sorts of laws have been shown again and again to disenfranchise legitimate voters at basically no benefit to the integrity of the system - the number of voter impersonation cases in every election is negligible.

Of course, it's rather obvious that old-timey America was a terrible place with slavery and all those things, but (and here I go being all idealistic with my head in the clouds) the whole point of America is, as I see it, the place where anyone can come and forge a new life, get ahead, raise a family if they want, yada yada yada. The reality of that vision is, sadly, basically not true at all in today's society, but mottoes are about ideals. If national mottoes reflected a country's history, most of them would be depressing as .

Also, you can have your beliefs, but I'm not a fan of comparing the current conditions of the non-wealthy to slavery, no matter how bad they are.
I don't see America that way, but we're all entitled to our beliefs. Probably my problem with the motto is that I'm a solid non-patriot and think that the Founders were sort of circle-jerking when they came up with these mottoes etc. etc. about liberty and equality, but that's just me.

Well, they were (except Thomas Paine, the underrated bro that he is), but I believe we can make America better. I mean, yeah, deep down we're just constrained by random lines drawn on maps and I could easily drive over to Toronto right now, but I think change is possible, even though it may seem hard.

Let's have an everyone's-entitled-to-their-beliefs party! We can bring Ken Ham and everyone on Conservative Political Forum.
Thomas Paine was, admittedly, kinda cool.

That everyone's-entitled-to-their-beliefs party idea seems like it would be interesting...
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« Reply #936 on: February 16, 2014, 01:04:05 pm »

99% of what you believe makes me cry tears of joy, but I'm not sure if the Voter ID thing is sarcasm or not. Also, why the E Pluribus Unum hate?
The Voter ID thing is not sarcasm. If you're 18 years of age and want to take part in the political process, I don't necessarily see the wrong in having to provide a photo ID at the polls.

E pluribus unum, when it became our motto, essentially meant "out of many rich white slaveowners, one elitist society composed of rich white slaveowners". That is still basically true (switch out African-Americans with the average laborer, and you still have slaveowners in corporate boardrooms), and the connotations of the motto just bother the hell out of me.

On the voter ID thing, you seem to be assuming that everyone has a photo ID, which is simply not true. Those sorts of laws have been shown again and again to disenfranchise legitimate voters at basically no benefit to the integrity of the system - the number of voter impersonation cases in every election is negligible.

Of course, it's rather obvious that old-timey America was a terrible place with slavery and all those things, but (and here I go being all idealistic with my head in the clouds) the whole point of America is, as I see it, the place where anyone can come and forge a new life, get ahead, raise a family if they want, yada yada yada. The reality of that vision is, sadly, basically not true at all in today's society, but mottoes are about ideals. If national mottoes reflected a country's history, most of them would be depressing as .

Also, you can have your beliefs, but I'm not a fan of comparing the current conditions of the non-wealthy to slavery, no matter how bad they are.
I don't see America that way, but we're all entitled to our beliefs. Probably my problem with the motto is that I'm a solid non-patriot and think that the Founders were sort of circle-jerking when they came up with these mottoes etc. etc. about liberty and equality, but that's just me.

Well, they were (except Thomas Paine, the underrated bro that he is), but I believe we can make America better. I mean, yeah, deep down we're just constrained by random lines drawn on maps and I could easily drive over to Toronto right now, but I think change is possible, even though it may seem hard.

Let's have an everyone's-entitled-to-their-beliefs party! We can bring Ken Ham and everyone on Conservative Political Forum.
Thomas Paine was, admittedly, kinda cool.

That everyone's-entitled-to-their-beliefs party idea seems like it would be interesting...

Don't worry, the Democratic Underground people would balance CPF out.
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« Reply #937 on: February 16, 2014, 02:14:41 pm »

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Cuba: Greatest country in the world. ... Take some lessons from Fidel.
Military Spending: Abolish the military.
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« Reply #938 on: February 19, 2014, 07:12:35 pm »

Thanks to the guy far above for giving me a framework.

Social Policy
Abortion:  Legal, but not really regarded as a good thing.  Free for people of really low income who probably could not raise a child anyway.

Drugs:  Really not needed, ban tobacco, marijuana, anything illegal now.  Throw people who use them in jail, or use corporal punishment.

Censorship:  Illegal stuff banned.  Federal government determines things, and local bans must be deemed right by the higher ups.

Gay marriage:  Legal everywhere.

Prostitution:  Illegal.

Church & State:  Separate completely.  In fact, have a restraining order between those two.

Affirmative action:  No.

Immigration:  Allow, but only when actually needed.  Make it harder for unskilled people, but easier for educated people.  Help those people get on their feet here.

PATRIOT Act:  It could be expanded.

Gun Control:  Ban assault weapons for all.  Extensive background checks, etc. for all others.

Criminals:  Capitol punishment for murder.  Bring back corporal punishment, so, robbery = a few days in the stocks.  That should straighten people out.

Economic Issues:

Welfare:  Keep, but only for people employed or actively seeking jobs.  Establish a new CCC for people to work in if no other alternatives are around.  People with no jobs will not be helped.  At all.

Unions:  Good.

Environment:  Federal Government should regulate it.

Minimum wage:  Raise to something like $11.

Taxation:  Make higher for rich.  Add VAT.

Healthcare:  Get basic government care.

Trade:  High tariffs.


Foreign Policy
Draft:  Get mandatory service.

UN:  em.

Nukes:  Good.

Foreign Aid:  Not bad, except when useless.
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« Reply #939 on: February 21, 2014, 12:40:42 pm »
« Edited: February 21, 2014, 01:10:08 pm by Illini142 »

Social Policy

Abortion: Pro-life, with exceptions for rape, incest, and the life of the mother.

Drugs: Legalize marijuana and many other drugs, but not the most addictive of them.

Censorship: Don't censor the internet or the TV, only limit on freedom of speech should be those situations which could cause a mass-panic, such as the classic, "No yelling fire in a crowded theater."

Gay marriage: Legalize it nationally.

Prostitution:  Legalize it on the federal level, allow states to regulate it.

Church & State: This isn't a theocracy. All of our morals are informed by our respective religious beliefs, but there is a clear distinction between that and enforcing Biblical code through the legal system.

Affirmative action: Support to an extent.

Immigration: Create a path to citizenship, reform the immigration process to make it easier for people to come here legally.

PATRIOT Act: Terrible law, repeal it. Civil liberties must be preserved in all possible cases and this law grossly oversteps its bounds.

Gun Control:  Fairly pro-gun, support background checks and possibly a registry, but not supportive of the assault weapons ban (open-minded on the issue, however).

Criminals: End capital punishment, it is terribly immoral. End minimum mandatory sentencing and reform the justice system to more of a focus on rehabilitation.


Economic Policy

Welfare: An important piece of an industrialized nation. Supportive of legitimate reform but not open to politicization of said reform - should be strictly geared at reforming the system rather than an opportunity to restrict it.

Unions: Strongly supportive.

Environment: Supportive of sweeping measures to reduce carbon emissions. Climate change is man-made and needs to be acted on immediately. Hold big carbon producers accountable for their abuse of the environment. Invest in alternative energy. Solar energy is the way of the future.

Minimum wage:  Skeptical of how much it can really help the lower classes, job losses not worth minimum wage hikes. Definitely open to raising it a couple bucks but generally more supportive of the safety net to make up for low wages.

Taxation: Progressive taxation, the rich should pay the large share of the tax base, but not so much that it would kill ambition. Cut taxes on the middle and lower classes.

Healthcare: Single Payer health care system.

Trade: Generally supportive of free trade with some tariffs, support tax breaks for companies willing to keep labor here however.


Foreign Policy

Draft: Immoral and illegal.

UN: Support full cooperation on the part of the United States. Can be a force for good so long as sovereignty is not stripped.

Nukes: Gradual arms reduction, the benefits of MAD are overstated and the potential for misuse is greater than most think.

Foreign Aid:  Supportive of strong aid program but reformed from our current one, supportive of humanitarian aid and not military aid, re-target to ensure that aid is directly helping those in need and not used corruptly by governments.

Summary

Progressive policies on the safety net, health care, unionization, civil liberties, marriage, immigration, energy, and foreign policy.

Moderate on the minimum wage, trade, and guns.

Conservative on abortion.

Overall placed on the center-left. For now.
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« Reply #940 on: February 25, 2014, 10:18:08 am »

Wait, what are you doing not being a Democrat?
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« Reply #941 on: February 26, 2014, 02:57:03 am »

SOCIAL POLICY

Abortion: Pro-choice, but no late-term or partial birth

Narcotics: Legalize/tax marijuana. Decriminalize possession of hard drugs in small quantities. Transfer funding to rehab programs. Alcohol prohibition beyond 18 years old is unconstitutional.

Prostitution: States-rights. Legalized, but heavily-regulated for public safety. Allow localities to ban prostitution commerce.

2nd Amendment: Allow greater ownership freedom and carry freedom for citizens who meet rigorous training regimens. Everyone else gets bolt-action rifles and pump-shotguns.

Crime & Punishment: Abolish capital punishment. Eliminate most mandatory minimum sentences. Reduce enforcement and penalties for victimless crimes. Support most stand-your-ground laws.

Gay Marriage: The most pointless social initiative in my lifetime. Most of the inequality stems from unequal tax laws, healthcare laws, and property laws that affect all single people, regardless of orientation. However, people say legalize, and I have no particular feeling one way or the other. Legalize by default.

Patriot Act: Government surveillance is not particularly alarming as long as citizens have vast oversight mechanisms and smart juries.

Affirmative Action: Okay, as long as its education reform for disadvantaged citizens, not handouts based on skin color.

Education: States-rights. No common core. More choice. More innovation. Eliminate FFELP lending. Pell Grants or refundable tax credits.

ECONOMIC POLICY

Welfare/Unemployment: Repeal and replace with guaranteed minimum income.

Social Security: Raise qualifying age to 70. Phase-out benefits (i.e. tax benefits) for seniors with additional income. Switch to defined-contribution to reduce generational conflict caused by the adversarial defined-benefit system.

Healthcare: Federalize of Medicaid. Massive cost-cutting to Medicare/Medicaid or convert the current public health entitlements to rationed catastrophic single-payer. Eliminate all employer mandates. Repeal or eliminate most ACA provisions.

Taxation: Guaranteed minimum income with a 35% flat tax (20% income tax, 15% FICA). Eliminate existing, regressive FICA tax system. Capital gains taxed at 35%, but with time-value adjustments set by IRS/FED. Abolish AMT. Eliminate all deductions, even charity. Phaseout corporate income tax.

Wealth Inequality: Bottom rungs of the social ladder must be rebuilt with guaranteed minimum income assistance so people can work out of poverty. Reduce student debt, and bend collegiate education cost curve. Transfer spending back to the working class. Let full employment raise wages. Fair taxation rules for capital gains.

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Typical pragmatist. Middle-of-the-road libertarian.
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« Reply #942 on: March 09, 2014, 01:12:00 am »

I would consider myself a conservative with a few libertarian meanings. However, the reason why I agree with a few libertarian viewpoints is not because of "liberty", but because that viewpoint brings about a certain conservative value. For example, I am hostile to some parts of the war on drugs because I think they break up the black family. That is, I don't support scaling back the drug war because I think it is your right to consume a poison that enslaves and kills, I support scaling back the drug war because too many men are behind bars who should be at home being fathers.

Economics is where I have the most passion. I am a huge fan of Hazlitt, Bastiat, Friedman, etc.
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« Reply #943 on: March 11, 2014, 11:01:07 am »

Two questions, Boshie: How is marijuana a "poison that enslaves and kills"? And why do you seem to think black people are the only people who do drugs (or are you pointing out the racism in our justice and law enforcement systems?)?
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« Reply #944 on: March 11, 2014, 11:10:08 pm »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!

...Do you really have Hitler quotes in your signature?

Yeah, I do. Also, sorry for the lateness of this reply; I wanted to maintain a presence on this forum but I forgot about it. I'll try to keep up now.
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« Reply #945 on: March 11, 2014, 11:11:30 pm »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!


May I be the first to say that you make me, as a gay man, an atheist, a man who thinks government shouldn't control what you put in your body, a man who believes that those who can afford it should give back to the community, who believes that science should lead the way on issues of women's health and that women shouldn't be made to carry their rapist's baby, that our military is bloated and needs to be cut, and that everyone deserves a basic standard of living, sick? I think you might find a certain other Vladimir to be a good friend of yours.

Actually, I'm a big Putin fan. So is 70% of Russians and most Crimeans. Smiley
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« Reply #946 on: March 11, 2014, 11:17:41 pm »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!


May I be the first to say that you make me, as a gay man, an atheist, a man who thinks government shouldn't control what you put in your body, a man who believes that those who can afford it should give back to the community, who believes that science should lead the way on issues of women's health and that women shouldn't be made to carry their rapist's baby, that our military is bloated and needs to be cut, and that everyone deserves a basic standard of living, sick? I think you might find a certain other Vladimir to be a good friend of yours.

Are you really losing your sh*t to an obvious troll?

Then again, I'd probably do the same thing.  THese trolls are like watching a train wreck.  So horrible, but you just got to watch.
I'll apologize to you as well for the lateness of this reply; kind of dropped the ball on this even though I wanted to keep up; once again I'll try to now. But, with that aside, I assure you I am no troll. I actually used to be quite a bit more conservative but I've changed a bit. I like to call myself an "Authoritarian Conservative" as in I'm still very conservative, but I like a strong government minus bloated taxation and certain other things, and I'm not necessarily a supporter of genocide or racism as in Hitler. Btw to address my signature, it's there because of how true it is. I do not support Adolf, but I see the use of certain quotes of his in application to other things. And, the two particular quotes I chose are very applicable to a certain president Smiley.
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« Reply #947 on: March 11, 2014, 11:19:12 pm »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!


May I be the first to say that you make me, as a gay man, an atheist, a man who thinks government shouldn't control what you put in your body, a man who believes that those who can afford it should give back to the community, who believes that science should lead the way on issues of women's health and that women shouldn't be made to carry their rapist's baby, that our military is bloated and needs to be cut, and that everyone deserves a basic standard of living, sick? I think you might find a certain other Vladimir to be a good friend of yours.

Actually, I'm a big Putin fan. So is 70% of Russians and most Crimeans. Smiley

Good to know, I'll need a good punching bag about which to get needlessly angry and rant on the internet. Now, starting with the easy questions, why should gay marriage be illegal?
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« Reply #948 on: March 13, 2014, 12:32:43 am »

Very socially conservative. A few examples;
Abortion: Only when the life of the mother is seriously threatened.
Gay "Marriage": Completely and totally illegal.
Drugs: Marijuana should be completely illegal, and I'm not too fond of alcohol or cigarettes but I realize those two would be nearly impossible to illegalize, so I'll tolerate them in moderation.
Church and State: Keep "In God we Trust", school prayers should be allowed but determined based on the school districts, freedom OF religion not FROM religion, take out the "Solemnly swear" parts of oaths and return to what it was, etc.

Moderately economically conservative. A few examples;
Taxes: Should be a universal tax rate from the bottom of the ladder to the very top, with the exception being the absolute poorest of the poor, whom should receive government assistance, but must prove they are actively trying to secure a job that can pay for themselves.
Deficit Spending: Slash spending across the board, with the only exceptions being education and the military.
Welfare: Only for the poorest of the poor, and drug test applicants.
Debt Ceiling: Lower, lower, LOWER!!!!


May I be the first to say that you make me, as a gay man, an atheist, a man who thinks government shouldn't control what you put in your body, a man who believes that those who can afford it should give back to the community, who believes that science should lead the way on issues of women's health and that women shouldn't be made to carry their rapist's baby, that our military is bloated and needs to be cut, and that everyone deserves a basic standard of living, sick? I think you might find a certain other Vladimir to be a good friend of yours.

Actually, I'm a big Putin fan. So is 70% of Russians and most Crimeans. Smiley

Good to know, I'll need a good punching bag about which to get needlessly angry and rant on the internet. Now, starting with the easy questions, why should gay marriage be illegal?


 Good question! But, before I start, you don't have to get angry with me. I'm a nice guy once you get past your initial disgust and contempt with me Wink.
  Anyhow, I could simply answer that question based on my belief in God, but that's probably not what you are looking for, and I'd get a stock response for it so I'll stay away from that. Why gay "marriage" should be illegal; the definition of marriage is (or should be based on whatever view you have on the definition) a union between a man in a woman, based on love, for the purpose of creating a stable family environment for a child/children.
  Your next assertion would undoubtedly be one of the following; either, "If two gays love eachother, why can't they be happy too?" or, "Gays can create a stable family environment and raise children as well, so why can't they do so?". Well, before I continue, let me say that I have several gay family members/friends and I do not hate anybody for simply being gay. Now, with that said, I contend that homosexuality is not natural, and is a self-induced mental condition, meaning, a state of mind one puts themselves in. (I'll probably get questioned for this statement but I assure you I can back it up, but I'll save that for later). Also, for two gays to "create" a family, they have to either adopt a child, or artificially produce one through the help of modern science. Sure, on the outside it appears to be relatively similar to a "straight" marriage. But, the sad truth is, is that the vast majority of said gay "marriages" do not provide a stable family environment. Gays have a much higher; divorce rate, partner violence rate, disease (whether it be an STD or a genetic disease) rate, as well as a much lower percentage reporting marital fidelity.
     
    I could go on, but I have a feeling this is already a bit much. So, I'll continue whenever prompted to. Also, I can provide sources for these "accusations", which I will probably be asked to list. Also, let me assure you once more; I do not hate anybody for merely being gay. I have many gay friends/ a few gay family members. I do not hate anybody here that opposes my views/facts. Also, if you or anybody else disagrees, please avoid vitriol and stick to logical, factual responses; I'm not here for a pissing contest. (Just figured I should state all the above less I be called a 'homophobic bigoted hater' or something of the like).
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« Reply #949 on: March 13, 2014, 12:44:48 am »


No, the second one's Goebbels IIRC.
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   Is it Dr. Goebbels? Could've sworn that was Adolf. If you can show me it was Goebbels, I'll change my signature to show that.
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