Plane with 239 people on board crashes in Southern Indian Ocean

[Gustaf]

I'm beginning to wonder about the possibility that say Malaysian military shot it down by mistake and doesn't want to admit it.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

I'm beginning to wonder about the possibility that say Malaysian military shot it down by mistake and doesn't want to admit it.

That's what I am hearing from a lot of people, not just you. I am going to try to find articles on that.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I'm beginning to wonder about the possibility that say Malaysian military shot it down by mistake and doesn't want to admit it.

That's what I am hearing from a lot of people, not just you. I am going to try to find articles on that.

If that was the case, you'd expect there to have been wreckage found by now.  It's fairly clear the plane did not crash along its expected flightpath.

[I Will Not Be Wrong]

http://www.businessinsider.com/r-exclusive-probe-into-missing-malaysia-plane-looks-at-possible-mid-air-disintegration---source-2014-09

Did the plane disintegrate in mid air?

[Simfan34]

I'm beginning to wonder about the possibility that say Malaysian military shot it down by mistake and doesn't want to admit it.

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I was thinking the same thing, but with Vietnam.

[NewYorkExpress]

Aliens. It's gotta be.

Sure, and the Easter Bunny is real too...

[Donerail]

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That'd seem to rule out a mechanical failure. Has to be human action of some kind to switch off the transponder but keep flying.

[DINGO Joe]

Malaysia air force chief denies saying lost plane tracked to west

http://news.yahoo.com/malaysia-military-source-says-missing-jet-veered-west-004734056--sector.html

Yeah, they're not gonna find that plane.

[Sbane]

I would not be surprised if the plane was shot down considering the conflicting statements coming out of the military.

[Likely Voter]

Well it is either...
Hijacking gone bad
Bombing
Suicidal Pilot
Shot down by military
Massive malfunction due to poor maintenance
Massive malfunction due to design
Massive pilot ineptitude

But like most air disasters it probably is...
Survivable malfunction followed up with poor crew reaction

[Fmr President & Senator Polnut]

Planes are full of foam ... even mid-air disintegration would have left signs. The degree to which the Malaysian military is covering its arse is... Interesting.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

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That'd seem to rule out a mechanical failure. Has to be human action of some kind to switch off the transponder but keep flying.

Not really.  These glass cockpit aircraft do on rare occasion have computer failures that knock out the communications and other electronics.  That's why they are required to have a spartan mechanical backup that lets them continue to fly despite losing the electronics.  So something that knocked out the fly-by-wire stuff would account for them losing the transponder and all other communications and yet keep flying.  What it doesn't account for is how they got so lost no one has found them yet.

[Tender Branson]

But why would the Malaysian military shoot down a plane from their own country ?

Makes not much sense ...

[Eraserhead]

I don't know if they'll ever find it.

[Mr. Morden]

Here's an interesting theory:

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/?og=1

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So that knocks out the transponder, and also decompresses the cabin, leaving everyone unconscious.  But the plane is still mostly intact, and so the autopilot keeps flying the plane, while everyone's unconscious/dead.  It eventually crashes into the ocean, but by that point it's very far away from the last point at which the transponder was working, so it's nowhere near wherever they're searching for it.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Here's an interesting theory:

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/?og=1

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So that knocks out the transponder, and also decompresses the cabin, leaving everyone unconscious.  But the plane is still mostly intact, and so the autopilot keeps flying the plane, while everyone's unconscious/dead.  It eventually crashes into the ocean, but by that point it's very far away from the last point at which the transponder was working, so it's nowhere near wherever they're searching for it.

That sounds eerily similar to what happened to golfer Payne Stewart's private plane.  The Air Force fighters flying along side of it saw everyone inside unconscious/dead before it ran out of fuel and crashed.  This plane could be anywhere.

[Simfan34]

Here's an interesting theory:

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/?og=1

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So that knocks out the transponder, and also decompresses the cabin, leaving everyone unconscious.  But the plane is still mostly intact, and so the autopilot keeps flying the plane, while everyone's unconscious/dead.  It eventually crashes into the ocean, but by that point it's very far away from the last point at which the transponder was working, so it's nowhere near wherever they're searching for it.

This reminds me to what happened to Helios Airways Flight 522, actually, the general idea of decompression occurring but the plane keeping up the autopilot. Of course, in that case, it was the cockpit that was affected and it was a loss of oxygen and not so much decompression.

But why would the Malaysian military shoot down a plane from their own country ?

Makes not much sense ...

Accident? I think it's worse considering a combination of theories... that the plane had gone off in some random direction and was unresponsive, and then someone had shot it down.

[Tender Branson]

What about this ? If true they might find it soon.

[Sbane]

But why would the Malaysian military shoot down a plane from their own country ?

Makes not much sense ...

If they thought it had been taken over by terrorists and was a threat to their country, why would it matter which country owned the plane?

Another theory that makes a lot of sense is a massive power failure which took out everything except for the mechanical control of the plane. The pilots try to head back to Kuala Lumpur but do not succeed without the aid of navigation tools. Remember, this all happened in the middle of the night.

The slow decompression theory would make sense if the plane hadn't turned around and stayed at a high altitude.

[Tender Branson]

This might be it after all:

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[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

But why would the Malaysian military shoot down a plane from their own country ?

Makes not much sense ...

If they thought it had been taken over by terrorists and was a threat to their country, why would it matter which country owned the plane?

Correct.  Ask Bush/Cheney what they would have done on 9/11.  Of course they've answered that with yes, they would have shot an american plane down if necessary. 

[Hash]

If true, this also means that the Malolsian Air Farce screwed up on something and that they need to fire some people who can't read radars.

[Tender Branson]

I just checked this ...

The coast of Vietnam on March 8 on NASA's "World View" Programme (which has real-time satellite pictures) shows this:



https://earthdata.nasa.gov/labs/worldview

[Simfan34]

That could be a number of things.

[Tender Branson]

That could be a number of things.

Probably, yeah.

But, if the plane went down there and the fuel continued to burn, wouldn't that create fume lines like those that are visible after hours by satellite ?