Plane with 239 people on board crashes in Southern Indian Ocean

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Terrorism.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Here's an interesting theory:

http://mh370lost.tumblr.com/?og=1

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So that knocks out the transponder, and also decompresses the cabin, leaving everyone unconscious.  But the plane is still mostly intact, and so the autopilot keeps flying the plane, while everyone's unconscious/dead.  It eventually crashes into the ocean, but by that point it's very far away from the last point at which the transponder was working, so it's nowhere near wherever they're searching for it.

That sounds eerily similar to what happened to golfer Payne Stewart's private plane.  The Air Force fighters flying along side of it saw everyone inside unconscious/dead before it ran out of fuel and crashed.  This plane could be anywhere.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

But why would the Malaysian military shoot down a plane from their own country ?

Makes not much sense ...

If they thought it had been taken over by terrorists and was a threat to their country, why would it matter which country owned the plane?

Correct.  Ask Bush/Cheney what they would have done on 9/11.  Of course they've answered that with yes, they would have shot an american plane down if necessary. 

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

That could be a number of things.

Probably, yeah.

But, if the plane went down there and the fuel continued to burn, wouldn't that create fume lines like those that are visible after hours by satellite ?

EVERY satellite image website has said not to use their data for this.  It's not real time, and it's not reliable.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Everything in the world will be a bit better when everybody stops trying to be an internet investigator/detective.

Some are a tad obsessed with this.  Let the big boys with the big equipment handle the job.  This is one of the few times countries will come together and work together to get the answers.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

It's a hijacking no doubt. They'll find it. Patience.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

If the pilot wanted to ditch the plane killing everyone nothing could have stopped him....no need for all this turning back, etc......clearly he intended to properly land this plane somewhere.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The fact that no one messaged out indicates that either they could not or were perhaps unaware that anything was wrong until it was too late.

Again, if they took the southern route, then they were basically over the ocean the whole time, and the cell phones wouldn't work.  There was that small strip of land in Malaysia/Thailand that they would have doubled back over, but that would have been early on in hijacking, and not clear if the passengers would have known what was wrong yet at that point.  Plus, even when you're flying over land, you're at such high altitude and speed that connecting to a cell tower on the ground isn't a slam dunk.  It worked on 9/11, because the planes were flying low, but that didn't necessarily happen in this case.

Assuming it's not a 1000 feet below sea level now and was a hijacking, how do one or 2 pilots take everyone's electronics without the passengers and flight crew rebelling?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The fact that no one messaged out indicates that either they could not or were perhaps unaware that anything was wrong until it was too late.

Again, if they took the southern route, then they were basically over the ocean the whole time, and the cell phones wouldn't work.  There was that small strip of land in Malaysia/Thailand that they would have doubled back over, but that would have been early on in hijacking, and not clear if the passengers would have known what was wrong yet at that point.  Plus, even when you're flying over land, you're at such high altitude and speed that connecting to a cell tower on the ground isn't a slam dunk.  It worked on 9/11, because the planes were flying low, but that didn't necessarily happen in this case.

Assuming it's not a 1000 feet below sea level now and was a hijacking, how do one or 2 pilots take everyone's electronics without the passengers and flight crew rebelling?

Read this:

link

Yeah I get it but unless the passengers were dead, they need to gather every cell phone, that's a lot of gathering and if you miss one, you're kaput.  Oh well, we'll find out someday.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

The fact that no one messaged out indicates that either they could not or were perhaps unaware that anything was wrong until it was too late.

Again, if they took the southern route, then they were basically over the ocean the whole time, and the cell phones wouldn't work.  There was that small strip of land in Malaysia/Thailand that they would have doubled back over, but that would have been early on in hijacking, and not clear if the passengers would have known what was wrong yet at that point.  Plus, even when you're flying over land, you're at such high altitude and speed that connecting to a cell tower on the ground isn't a slam dunk.  It worked on 9/11, because the planes were flying low, but that didn't necessarily happen in this case.

Assuming it's not a 1000 feet below sea level now and was a hijacking, how do one or 2 pilots take everyone's electronics without the passengers and flight crew rebelling?

Read this:

link

Yeah I get it but unless the passengers were dead, they need to gather every cell phone, that's a lot of gathering and if you miss one, you're kaput.  Oh well, we'll find out someday.

What?  No.  You don't need to gather any phones.  I'm saying that if they were flying mostly over ocean, then the phones wouldn't work.  And even if they were flying over land, they still probably wouldn't work.  That is, unless you're flying as low as the planes were flying on 9/11.  So there's no need to confiscate the phones.  Alternatively, the pilot can depressurize the cabin, and kill everyone, so he doesn't need to worry about this anyway.

More on this:

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/03/18/world/asia/questions-over-absence-of-cellphone-calls-from-missing-passengers.html?_r=0

Yeah I think if it was hijacked with intent to land somewhere safely, they/he would have killed all of the passengers.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

God Bless the Onion

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I knew Mr. Modern was somehow responsible.  Damn.