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« Reply #50 on: November 11, 2004, 06:39:17 PM »

Economic Left/Right: -10.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -9.62

Don't get much more librul than me. Tongue
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« Reply #51 on: November 11, 2004, 07:06:47 PM »

Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10
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« Reply #52 on: November 11, 2004, 07:37:53 PM »

I've become more liberal since voting for John Kerry, lol.


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Social:       -0.96
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« Reply #53 on: November 11, 2004, 07:46:09 PM »

I've become more liberal since voting for John Kerry, lol.


Economic: -0.75
Social:       -0.96

I "voted" for bush and got more liberal ha!
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« Reply #54 on: November 11, 2004, 08:54:39 PM »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.
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« Reply #55 on: November 11, 2004, 10:06:40 PM »

It doesn't work for me at all. I wind up being a moderate on both sides; close to Tony Blair!!! lol
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« Reply #56 on: November 12, 2004, 12:53:01 AM »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.

Wow. So you basically used to be me, until March. :-)
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« Reply #57 on: November 12, 2004, 02:42:03 AM »


Can't exactly get much more economically centrist than that.
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« Reply #58 on: November 12, 2004, 06:10:43 AM »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.

Wow. So you basically used to be me, until March. :-)

Not really. I think the thing kinda scores you towards the left, intentionally or not. You see very few 10s in the right side, but many on the left. Plus there is the fact that some of the questions just plain suck. In reality I was only moderate-left economically.
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« Reply #59 on: November 12, 2004, 09:37:42 AM »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.

Wow. So you basically used to be me, until March. :-)

Not really. I think the thing kinda scores you towards the left, intentionally or not. You see very few 10s in the right side, but many on the left. Plus there is the fact that some of the questions just plain suck. In reality I was only moderate-left economically.

all true.  I'm a centrist, but I generally get low negatives (e.g., varying from -4 to 1, typically) on the economic scale.  But, as I commented before, on the populist vs. anarchist scale, it seems to bear out the posts of most of the posters.  don't you think?

Also, dibble = milton friedman  Wink
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« Reply #60 on: November 12, 2004, 09:55:51 AM »
« Edited: November 12, 2004, 10:30:32 AM by John Dibble »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.

Wow. So you basically used to be me, until March. :-)

Not really. I think the thing kinda scores you towards the left, intentionally or not. You see very few 10s in the right side, but many on the left. Plus there is the fact that some of the questions just plain suck. In reality I was only moderate-left economically.

all true.  I'm a centrist, but I generally get low negatives (e.g., varying from -4 to 1, typically) on the economic scale.  But, as I commented before, on the populist vs. anarchist scale, it seems to bear out the posts of most of the posters.  don't you think?

Also, dibble = milton friedman  Wink

Yeah, it's somewhat more accurate on social issues, though only if the answers reflect your political views on them. I know a few Libertarians who are Christian fundamentalists, yet at the same time they think the state should allow gay marriage(though not their church), let people do drugs, and make all sorts of decisions they view as sinful. They'd score a positive on the compass, but they would really be a negative politically.

This Milton Friedman? Aww shucks, I'm not that much of an economics expert, I just had a good economics book to learn from. I'll look it up later.

EDIT - The book I used was called Principles of Microeconomics. I highly recommend it to everyone who wants to understand how the market works. There's a macroeconomics book by the same author as well. I'd get that if I had the cash to spare, but until my income increases my personal demand curve won't shift to the right. Wink
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« Reply #61 on: November 12, 2004, 10:45:46 AM »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.

Wow. So you basically used to be me, until March. :-)

Not really. I think the thing kinda scores you towards the left, intentionally or not. You see very few 10s in the right side, but many on the left. Plus there is the fact that some of the questions just plain suck. In reality I was only moderate-left economically.

True, but your number would have been close to mine, so unless the test was biasing our scores in opposite directions, we were pretty similar.

I'm not a radical leftist on economics; I support capitalism, but with regulations. I feel that there are times when the free market fails, and then government should step in to fill in the gaps. I also feel that improving the efficiency and effectiveness of government programs is very important. I support any and all efforts to reduce waste and to apply rational, logical processes to analyze the expenditure of all government funds, taking everything into account.

At the same time, I feel that government can improve the market by doing many things that benefit everyone that corporations wouldn't have the money to do on their own, or that wouldn't be willing to take the risk to do. Government can be an active partner in helping to improve conditions for businesses. I support a free market of ideas in which those who have the best ideas and work the hardest succeed. I don't support government helping people who aren't trying to help themselves; I support promoting responsibility.
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« Reply #62 on: November 12, 2004, 10:54:46 AM »
« Edited: November 12, 2004, 05:45:03 PM by John Dibble »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.

Wow. So you basically used to be me, until March. :-)

Not really. I think the thing kinda scores you towards the left, intentionally or not. You see very few 10s in the right side, but many on the left. Plus there is the fact that some of the questions just plain suck. In reality I was only moderate-left economically.

True, but your number would have been close to mine, so unless the test was biasing our scores in opposite directions, we were pretty similar.

I'm not a radical leftist on economics; I support capitalism, but with regulations. I feel that there are times when the free market fails, and then government should step in to fill in the gaps. I also feel that improving the efficiency and effectiveness of government programs is very important. I support any and all efforts to reduce waste and to apply rational, logical processes to analyze the expenditure of all government funds, taking everything into account.

At the same time, I feel that government can improve the market by doing many things that benefit everyone that corporations wouldn't have the money to do on their own, or that wouldn't be willing to take the risk to do. Government can be an active partner in helping to improve conditions for businesses. I support a free market of ideas in which those who have the best ideas and work the hardest succeed. I don't support government helping people who aren't trying to help themselves; I support promoting responsibility.

Well, I've already said it before - I agree with you in concept, but the degree I think is necessary is much different. If you want to eliminate government waste and whatnot, vote Libertarian in your local elections - we have proven to do so in local office. Maybe you should give us a chance in higher state positions. Wink
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« Reply #63 on: November 12, 2004, 12:30:24 PM »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.

Wow. So you basically used to be me, until March. :-)

Not really. I think the thing kinda scores you towards the left, intentionally or not. You see very few 10s in the right side, but many on the left. Plus there is the fact that some of the questions just plain suck. In reality I was only moderate-left economically.

all true.  I'm a centrist, but I generally get low negatives (e.g., varying from -4 to 1, typically) on the economic scale.  But, as I commented before, on the populist vs. anarchist scale, it seems to bear out the posts of most of the posters.  don't you think?

Also, dibble = milton friedman  Wink

Yeah, it's somewhat more accurate on social issues, though only if the answers reflect your political views on them. I know a few Libertarians who are Christian fundamentalists, yet at the same time they think the state should allow gay marriage(though not their church), let people do drugs, and make all sorts of decisions they view as sinful. They'd score a positive on the compass, but they would really be a negative politically.

This Milton Friedman? Aww shucks, I'm not that much of an economics expert, I just had a good economics book to learn from. I'll look it up later.

EDIT - The book I used was called Principles of Microeconomics. I highly recommend it to everyone who wants to understand how the market works. There's a macroeconomics book by the same author as well. I'd get that if I had the cash to spare, but until my income increases my personal demand curve won't shift to the right. Wink

nifty, I had Mankiw's "Principles of Macroconomics" for the macroeconomics course I took, but for microeconomics I think I had a book called "Microeconomics" by Browning and Browning (?).  They're all pretty much the same.  Interesting topic.  But remember, you do have to buy into some assumptions in order to draw the conclusions of Price Theory.  And some of them are a bit of a stretch (the old ceteris paribus, for example, since all things never really are equal, and for another, the assumption of freedom of market forces to adjust to equilibrium, since they don't take into account tariffs, trade laws, communist states, etc.)  Still, I must admit that the courses were profoundly influential on me.  Up to that point I had been a card-carrying dues-paying member of the Socialist Workers Party.  After the course I lurched right a bit and became a Socialist.  Over the years I eventually drifted rightward to a Clintonite, and there I stuck.  Thus the centrist economic score (give or take some points depending on my mood) and the mid-negative libertarian score (~ -5).  Still, I remain absolutely convinced that Bush is a better man for this job at this time than Kerry.  Though I have been persuaded to vote for 3d party pres. candidates in the past.  Maybe next time.  Keep campaigning!
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« Reply #64 on: November 12, 2004, 02:38:38 PM »

Well, I've moved a little further to the libertarian side on social issues it seems.

Economic Left/Right: 2.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.56

My economic score is usually a little higher, 3ish and my social score used to be lower, around -2 or -3.

The test is a little flawed, in the way John Dibble points out. For instance, they've changed the questions a little. One said something along the lines of faith-based schools being good for education, which I agreed with. But they changed it now to a personal question on whether I would not send my children to a non-religious school, which I would most certianly be willing to do. So I went from conservative to liberal when they changed that question for instance. Seems to me that it's a change for the worse, since the questions should be about political idelogy rather than personal values and philosophy. 

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« Reply #65 on: November 12, 2004, 05:17:04 PM »

Economic Left/Right: 9.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79

The social scale is getting more idiotic each time.
Apparently, i became more conservative both economically and socially.
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« Reply #66 on: November 12, 2004, 05:51:33 PM »

Economic Left/Right: 8.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -2.56

Tiny change from last time. I'm getting a little more extreme on both ways.
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« Reply #67 on: November 12, 2004, 06:03:05 PM »

Why is Kerry, by their standards, considered a conservative?

He's economically and socially in the positives by that graph!

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« Reply #68 on: November 12, 2004, 06:04:48 PM »

Economic Left/Right: 7.12
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.13

This may shock some of you, but my economic score was the exact opposite in March of this year. 0_o

My social score hasn't changed a bit.

Wow. So you basically used to be me, until March. :-)

Not really. I think the thing kinda scores you towards the left, intentionally or not. You see very few 10s in the right side, but many on the left. Plus there is the fact that some of the questions just plain suck. In reality I was only moderate-left economically.

all true.  I'm a centrist, but I generally get low negatives (e.g., varying from -4 to 1, typically) on the economic scale.  But, as I commented before, on the populist vs. anarchist scale, it seems to bear out the posts of most of the posters.  don't you think?

Also, dibble = milton friedman  Wink

Yeah, it's somewhat more accurate on social issues, though only if the answers reflect your political views on them. I know a few Libertarians who are Christian fundamentalists, yet at the same time they think the state should allow gay marriage(though not their church), let people do drugs, and make all sorts of decisions they view as sinful. They'd score a positive on the compass, but they would really be a negative politically.

This Milton Friedman? Aww shucks, I'm not that much of an economics expert, I just had a good economics book to learn from. I'll look it up later.

EDIT - The book I used was called Principles of Microeconomics. I highly recommend it to everyone who wants to understand how the market works. There's a macroeconomics book by the same author as well. I'd get that if I had the cash to spare, but until my income increases my personal demand curve won't shift to the right. Wink

I had the Principles of Macroeconomics book for my Macro class. I thought it was very well written and did an excellent job of explaining how our economy functions.
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« Reply #69 on: November 12, 2004, 06:09:03 PM »

Economic: -0.25
Social: -7.64
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« Reply #70 on: November 12, 2004, 06:49:43 PM »

Why is Kerry, by their standards, considered a conservative?

He's economically and socially in the positives by that graph!

It's not based off of the current American political view.
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« Reply #71 on: November 13, 2004, 03:14:24 AM »

economic: -10.00
social: -6.72

but this is misleading, as i am morally conservative.
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« Reply #72 on: November 13, 2004, 03:36:04 AM »

Economic Left/Right: 3.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -1.79
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« Reply #73 on: November 13, 2004, 01:38:15 PM »

Economic Left/Right: 0.00
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.10

I took it again today:

Economic Left/Right: 0.50
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -3.85

guess I'm having a conservative day
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« Reply #74 on: November 13, 2004, 01:46:50 PM »

Mine's still:

Economic Left/Right: 5.25
Social: 2.26

Though I was surprised by the social thing, since I think drugs and machine guns should be legalized and all...

Their are other issues such as Abortion, Stem Cell Research, Gay Marriage, Censorship, The Death Penalty, "In God Some Trust" Smiley, Affirmative Action, ect.
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