Fedoralist Party spokesman Riley Keaton continues to spread lies about Labor

[TNF]

Let us correct the record, shall we?

[TNF]

The Truth:

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

The Truth:

and with those who can't find work
let's not forget

[Hifly]

And late term abortions, and criminal thugs who deal and use drugs. Yes, those are veritable working class values too now!

[TNF]

And late term abortions, and criminal thugs who deal and use drugs. Yes, those are veritable working class values too now!

Shut up, Oxford.

[Hifly]

And late term abortions, and criminal thugs who deal and use drugs. Yes, those are veritable working class values too now!

Shut up, Oxford.

Working class kids can't go to Oxford now? Are working class children not worthy enough for a university education?
Policies like the ones you are propagating are why working class communities now vote for Right-Wingers for President. I feel sorry for your hard working Midwest constituents.

You are a class traitor.

[TNF]

y u mad tho

[Hifly]

y u mad tho

Supporting working communities also means sharing their values. The Labor Party's social platform needs to be altered from it's Neoliberal tripe.

[Oakvale]

The working classes are the ones that suffer most from the failed war on drugs, Hifly.

[DC Al Fine]

y u mad tho

Supporting working communities also means sharing their values. The Labor Party's social platform needs to be altered from it's Neoliberal tripe.

It's the great contradiction of the modern left. They preach caring for the country's most vulnerable, and hand its babies to butchers and its children to drug pushers.

[MyRescueKittehRocks]

We Federalists believe in helping the working man by getting out of the way of job creators wherever possible, lowering taxes, and opposing nationalization of any industry.

[Cranberry]

So tell me just, in what way does nationalizing industries to a worker-owned cooperative help the working man less than your proposal?

[TNF]

y u mad tho

Supporting working communities also means sharing their values. The Labor Party's social platform needs to be altered from it's Neoliberal tripe.

It's the great contradiction of the modern left. They preach caring for the country's most vulnerable, and hand its babies to butchers and its children to drug pushers.

>pretending that any of you Fedoralists give a sh**t about the most vulnerable

[TNF]

We Federalists believe in helping the working man by getting out of the way of job creators wherever possible, lowering taxes, and opposing nationalization of any industry.

Translation: We believe in "helping" the working man by turning him fully into a slave

[Deus Naturae]

So tell me just, in what way does nationalizing industries to a worker-owned cooperative help the working man less than your proposal?

Logical fallacy. If you believe that nationalization will help anyone, the burden of proof is on you to justify that position.

[Cranberry]

So tell me just, in what way does nationalizing industries to a worker-owned cooperative help the working man less than your proposal?

Logical fallacy. If you believe that nationalization will help anyone, the burden of proof is on you to justify that position.

OK - I'll give you my point of view. I'd like to see JCL's too, though.
In my opinion, worker-owned cooperatives in the industry finally give the workers a real voice. Then, there would be no need anymore for unions or strikes, as the workers (here are of course also included managers) get to decide what the business does or does not. Usually, workers know what the business needs. There will of course still be managment positions, but now the managers would be chosen by the workers, and not by the guy whose great-grandfather had the luck to be a descendant of some "noble" (Europe) or of some rich English dude ('Murica). 

[SUSAN CRUSHBONE]

We Federalists believe in helping the working man by getting out of the way of job creators wherever possible, lowering taxes, and opposing nationalization of any industry.

Translation: We believe in "helping" the working man by turning him fully into a slave

eh
we have basic income.
workers have a lot more leverage than they used to.
but yes, the notion that getting out of the way of "job creators" would help workers is patently absurd.

[TNF]

We Federalists believe in helping the working man by getting out of the way of job creators wherever possible, lowering taxes, and opposing nationalization of any industry.

Translation: We believe in "helping" the working man by turning him fully into a slave

eh
we have basic income.
workers have a lot more leverage than they used to.
but yes, the notion that getting out of the way of "job creators" would help workers is patently absurd.

Our basic income is actually not so much a universal thing, though, which is what I would like to see it become. It's still a welfare program at present.

[MadmanMotley]

Here's my biggest problem with socialism, you presume that all people are the same. This just isn't the case. Different people have different talents and skills. Different people have different skills and some of those skills are rarer than others. Socialism doesn't push people to do better and learn new skills. It pushes people down to the lowest common denominator. A good surgeon is harder to come by than a janitor, and their actions have bigger repercussions if something goes wrong. Thus the deserve to be paid more than a janitor.  Every one has value, but we must push for learning and progress in individual lives as well.

[Oakvale]

DAE Harrison Bergeron

[TNF]

Here's my biggest problem with socialism, you presume that all people are the same. This just isn't the case. Different people have different talents and skills. Different people have different skills and some of those skills are rarer than others. Socialism doesn't push people to do better and learn new skills. It pushes people down to the lowest common denominator. A good surgeon is harder to come by than a janitor, and their actions have bigger repercussions if something goes wrong. Thus the deserve to be paid more than a janitor.  Every one has value, but we must push for learning and progress in individual lives as well.

Don't you have sock accounts to operate or something?

[Deus Naturae]

So tell me just, in what way does nationalizing industries to a worker-owned cooperative help the working man less than your proposal?

Logical fallacy. If you believe that nationalization will help anyone, the burden of proof is on you to justify that position.

OK - I'll give you my point of view. I'd like to see JCL's too, though.
In my opinion, worker-owned cooperatives in the industry finally give the workers a real voice. Then, there would be no need anymore for unions or strikes, as the workers (here are of course also included managers) get to decide what the business does or does not. Usually, workers know what the business needs. There will of course still be managment positions, but now the managers would be chosen by the workers, and not by the guy whose great-grandfather had the luck to be a descendant of some "noble" (Europe) or of some rich English dude ('Murica). 

1. Do you believe that every industry should be forced to adopt this model?

2. What if the workers decide to use their monopoly to massively jack up prices?

[CatoMinor]

The Truth:

Why does labor only represent white men who look like Nazi ideal people?

[MadmanMotley]

Here's my biggest problem with socialism, you presume that all people are the same. This just isn't the case. Different people have different talents and skills. Different people have different skills and some of those skills are rarer than others. Socialism doesn't push people to do better and learn new skills. It pushes people down to the lowest common denominator. A good surgeon is harder to come by than a janitor, and their actions have bigger repercussions if something goes wrong. Thus the deserve to be paid more than a janitor.  Every one has value, but we must push for learning and progress in individual lives as well.

Don't you have sock accounts to operate or something?

No, I like taking credit for what I say.
Also, I merely presented my problem with socialism, if want to rebut that fine, but please don't resort to petty personal attacks.

[Sol]

The Truth:

Why does labor only represent white men who look like Nazi ideal people?

Labor stands for good graphic design, much of which was unfortunately created in less tolerant times.