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« on: June 30, 2014, 07:35:34 PM »

http://news.msn.com/us/justices-cant-make-employers-cover-contraception?ocid=ansnews11
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« Reply #1 on: June 30, 2014, 08:43:53 PM »

Fantastic news!
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« Reply #2 on: June 30, 2014, 08:59:46 PM »

Foul - healthcare is healthcare and employers can't force their beliefs on their employees any other time, the fact they can on this issue is disgusting.
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« Reply #3 on: June 30, 2014, 09:26:56 PM »

If you've actually read the opinion, nothing is being forced upon the employees as they still get their emergency contraceptive and IUD coverage, just via the same mechanism that Obama already set up to handle non-profit corporations with religious concerns that those particular methods might actually be abortive in their manner of action.  (Indeed, Hobby Lobby wasn't seeking exemption from covering all forms of contraception as some religious groups were, but four specific ones over which the question of how they work is disputed.  AFAIK, the family that owns Hobby Lobby has no problems with contraceptive methods that prevent ovulation.)
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« Reply #4 on: June 30, 2014, 09:40:10 PM »

Family owned S-Corps can have the corporate entity adopt their spiritual beliefs. That's it in a nutshell.
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« Reply #5 on: July 03, 2014, 08:48:33 AM »
« Edited: July 03, 2014, 09:54:55 AM by Stranger in a strange land »

Are any of you guys at all concerned that this decision could open the door for a Muslim-owned corporation to impose Sharia Law on its employees?
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« Reply #6 on: July 03, 2014, 02:44:54 PM »

Employers shouldn't provide health care anyway; that should be the work of a National Health Service.
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« Reply #7 on: July 03, 2014, 08:46:36 PM »

Are any of you guys at all concerned that this decision could open the door for a Muslim-owned corporation to impose Sharia Law on its employees?

And if that happens, Republicans will be singing a very, very different tune. Also it will be Barack HUSSEIN Obama's fault. The joke I've been making is "Sorry guys, no lunch break it's Ramadan."

Employers shouldn't provide health care anyway; that should be the work of a National Health Service.
This.
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« Reply #8 on: July 04, 2014, 09:37:47 AM »

Employers shouldn't provide health care anyway; that should be the work of a National Health Service.

Until a Republican HHS Secretary decides that the NHS shouldn't cover contraception anymore. Single-payer doesn't solve this problem.
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« Reply #9 on: July 07, 2014, 01:48:03 AM »

Shouldn't Roberts have agreed that it survives as a tax? Roberts isn't even being consistent with himself.
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« Reply #10 on: July 07, 2014, 01:03:59 PM »

And if that happens, Republicans will be singing a very, very different tune. Also it will be Barack HUSSEIN Obama's fault. The joke I've been making is "Sorry guys, no lunch break it's Ramadan."
Muslims don't believe that Nonmuslims should fast during Ramadan.
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« Reply #11 on: July 08, 2014, 07:22:53 AM »

If you've actually read the opinion, nothing is being forced upon the employees as they still get their emergency contraceptive and IUD coverage, just via the same mechanism that Obama already set up to handle non-profit corporations with religious concerns that those particular methods might actually be abortive in their manner of action.  (Indeed, Hobby Lobby wasn't seeking exemption from covering all forms of contraception as some religious groups were, but four specific ones over which the question of how they work is disputed.  AFAIK, the family that owns Hobby Lobby has no problems with contraceptive methods that prevent ovulation.)

And then on Thursday, SCOTUS granted Wheaton College an injunction to allow it to not comply with the process you outline above.
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« Reply #12 on: July 08, 2014, 04:25:32 PM »

If you've actually read the opinion, nothing is being forced upon the employees as they still get their emergency contraceptive and IUD coverage, just via the same mechanism that Obama already set up to handle non-profit corporations with religious concerns that those particular methods might actually be abortive in their manner of action.  (Indeed, Hobby Lobby wasn't seeking exemption from covering all forms of contraception as some religious groups were, but four specific ones over which the question of how they work is disputed.  AFAIK, the family that owns Hobby Lobby has no problems with contraceptive methods that prevent ovulation.)

And then on Thursday, SCOTUS granted Wheaton College an injunction to allow it to not comply with the process you outline above.

True, but it doesn't change the fact that their employees still get the contraceptive coverage.
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« Reply #13 on: July 09, 2014, 06:32:01 AM »

So Wheaton says they object to filing form 700 because it makes them complicit. The court agrees, and says that their notification to HHS, even without form 700, is enough to trigger the workaround that would get their employees third-party contraception coverage. So...need I state the obvious? If filling out the form to notify the government of the objection is claimed to be burdensome to Wheaton's religious exercise, it's not clear to me why any notification to HHS would not be burdensome, since it triggers the same activity to which Wheaton objects.
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« Reply #14 on: July 09, 2014, 04:30:49 PM »

Shouldn't Roberts have agreed that it survives as a tax? Roberts isn't even being consistent with himself.
This case had nothing to do with the individual mandate and whether or not it's a tax is irrelevant to the Free Exercise Clause.
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« Reply #15 on: July 10, 2014, 07:57:10 AM »

Shouldn't Roberts have agreed that it survives as a tax? Roberts isn't even being consistent with himself.
This case had nothing to do with the individual mandate and whether or not it's a tax is irrelevant to the Free Exercise Clause.

This case also didn't have to do with the Free Exercise Clause. It was a statutory case based on RFRA.
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