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« on: July 08, 2014, 01:57:22 PM »

Basically, we start with 4 posters in, myself included,  and then we create maps with 2 tickets of President plus Vice President for each one. 
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« Reply #1 on: July 08, 2014, 02:07:09 PM »

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« Reply #2 on: July 08, 2014, 02:08:24 PM »

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« Reply #3 on: July 08, 2014, 02:14:37 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2014, 02:33:22 PM by Senator TNF »

2032

With the Great Recession of 2007-2030 finally ending and economic growth resuming after years of chaos at both home and abroad, the nation breathes a sigh of relief as a kind of prosperity returns and it begins to select leadership for the post-recessionary period. Two decades of a depressed economy has wrecked havoc on the traditional political alignments of the country; with the Obama realignment in 2008, the Democratic Party became, in effect, the nation's only party capable of winning and holding office. The Republican Party collapsed in the face of demographic shifts and the moderating of the Democratic Party to the point that, from the vantage point of a century prior, it was almost unrecognizable; it is now a hodgepodge of upscale 'liberaltarians' on the coasts and those who still cling to the old liberal ideas of a regulated economy and support for labor unions. Needless to say, it's an unhappy marriage.

The right has largely moved into the Democratic camp; a lot of prominent conservatives now support the traditionalist-populist wing of the Democratic Party, led by Missouri Governor Gauss Law. Law won the Democratic nomination in spite of opposition from within the party from the Wall Street-aligned liberaltarians, although since his nomination, he has tacked to the center to appease these voters. He is joined by Minnesota Governor Windjammer, a fellow traditionalist-populist Democrat, although one with significant support from the defense contracting industries. The declining Republican Party has likewise decided to support the Democratic ticket for President.

On the left, disgruntled populist Democrats (of a decidedly more socially liberal variety) have split the party and allied themselves with the emerging socialist movement. Heralded by the election of Socialist Alternative City Councilwoman Kshama Sawant in 2013 and subsequent victories by other socialists in Seattle and Chicago, the movement expanded as the economy continued to stall and war abounded abroad. The United Socialist Party was formed at a conference in Chicago in 2022, bringing together existing socialist parties into a federated, uniform structure for the first time. The USP has selected Illinois Senator TNF for President and New York Congressman SWE for Vice President. The USP is campaigning on a "real socialist program" for recovery from the recession, promoting cooperatives and unions, and taking on the power of the "Wall Street banksters."



Governor GaussLaw of Missouri and Governor Windjammer of Minnesota (Democratic Party/Republican Party): 51% of the popular vote
Senator TNF of Illinois and Congressman SomeoneWhoExists of New York (United Socialist Party): 49% of the popular vote
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« Reply #4 on: July 08, 2014, 04:50:27 PM »
« Edited: July 08, 2014, 04:52:07 PM by IDS Legislator Maxwell »

1948
Following the death of FDR, Harry Truman was expected to win his parties nomination easily. However, the progressive wing of the Democratic Party criticized the Presidents action on Japan and his cuts to the Federal Budget. Congressman Sanders Emanuel of New York's campaign caught on fire when Truman's approvals fell through the floor. Emanuel picked Thomas Fieldman of Wyoming, a fiery yet well-regarded Senator, certainly of the left and with a heavy union background.

Republicans had an inspiring primary season too. The moderate, internationalist wing of the Republican party scored a big win with a surprising Governor John Wind to win the nomination. Conservatives considered walking out and running a third party candidate, but instead knocked out Wind's VP pick, Attorney General Benjamin Constine, a very noted internationalist, and instead put in Oklahoma Congressman George Maxwell, a libertarian Republican. Wind and Maxwell disagreed on just about every issue, but united under the banner of knocking out the Democrats and against left extremism.

The Republican ticket won strongly, but Emanuel did stronger than expected, with most polling having him trailing Wind by over 20 points.



Governor John Wind (R-VT)/Congressman George Maxwell (R-OK) - 51.8%, 301 EV's
Congressman Sanders Emanuel (D-NY)/Senator Thomas Fieldman (D-WY) - 45.3%, 171 EV's
Southern Candidates - 2.4%, 0 EV's
Others - 0.5%, 0 EV's
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« Reply #5 on: July 09, 2014, 11:50:52 AM »



Governor Windjammer (S-MN)/Senator TNF (S-KY) - 271 EVS
Senator Maxwell (L-LA)/Governor Goldwater (L-WA) - 267 EVS
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« Reply #6 on: July 09, 2014, 12:58:01 PM »

1968

Four years ago, in the most surprising election result since 1948, Senator Augustus Goldwater (R-WA) was elected President of the United States, beating out the Democratic ticket of President L.B.J. Revivalist (D-NY) and Senator Winston Jameson (D-MN). Despite L.B.J. Revivalist's popularity following the assassination of President Matthew DeViti (D-MA), the Goldwater campaign was able to build a coalition of the South and West, combined with traditional Republican states. This, coupled with the risky strategy of appealing to Northern blue collar workers (Catholics especially) through Republican Vice Presidential nominee Cassius "Cat" Kahn--who had built his political career in Michigan off of appealing, sometimes corruptly, to typically Democratic unions and union workers--would deliver Goldwater victory. The uprising in urban America following L.B.J. Revivalist's civil rights legislation would not help the Democrats.


Senator Augustus Goldwater (R-WA)/Former Mayor Cassius "Cat" Kahn (R-MI) 296 electoral votes, 49.8% of the popular vote
President L.B.J. Revivalist (D-NY)/Senator Winston Jameson (D-MN) 242 electoral votes, 49.3% of the popular vote

Over the last four years, the most radical president since Franklin Delano Roosevelt has been in power. Quickly escalating the Vietnam War and antagonizing the Soviet Union, the anti-communist President has made enemies of doves and realists alike. Nevertheless, he is claiming that the war is close to its end, and that such a victory would have the Reds running scared. On the domestic field, he has instituted "law and order" policies against radicals and has passed some legislation beginning the end of the New Deal. On a quieter note, the Drug Enforcement Administration's power has been weakened and its budget cut, and the President was caught controversially quipping "The federal government is engaged in no war on drugs." When asked to comment on attempts in New York State to legalize abortion, he made a rare statement siding with his party rival, Governor Rockefeller Gop, supporting such action. This has offended Catholics, and it wass hoped that Senator Jameson, a favorite of religious voters in his party, can successfully oust "that strange mix of radical and reactionary".

However, all was not to be, as he was hit at his left flank by a punch right out of Dixie. Former Senator Theodore Nugent Fitzpatrick, a one-termer who had lost re-election despite support from mining unions due to his "quasi-socialistic" stances, would galvanize the anti-war liberal base against Jameson, who was associated with sodomy and pornography laws as well as previous support for the war in Vietnam. Winning crucial primaries across the country, he and an army of thousands of anti-war and civil rights protesters would march on the convention in Chicago, demanding that their voices be heard. While Fitzpatrick rallied his supporters, inside, his campaign team was hard at work. Gabriel "The Babe" Stackler, a seasoned urban pol and frequenter of socialist circles who hailed from Lancaster County, Pennsylvania, used his vast ties to organize labor and the South to build for Fitzpatrick a coalition ranging from out-and-out communists to Dixiecrats. With the support of delegates from the South, Rust Belt, and West, Theodore Nugent Fitzpatrick won the Democratic nomination for President. In order to attract moderate-to-conservative Democrats but to keep with his campaign's anti-war theme, Oklahoma Senator Maxwell House was selected for Vice President.

The campaign was a brutal one, as it came down largely to a battle of far-right vs. far-left. However, Goldwater had money on his side, and was able to make the case that, at the end of the day, T.N.F. was far more of a radical left-winger than he or his party were right-wing. Goldwater would be re-elected by a similar electoral margin, having lost some popular support. The election was marked by high turnout only for voters that identified in exit polls as being "very conservative" and "very liberal". Goldwater would go on to become "the most controversial two-term President since Wilson" and today enjoys a mixed legacy.


President Augustus Goldwater (R-WA)/Vice President Cassius "Cat" Kahn (R-MI) 296 electoral votes, 49.2% of the popular vote
Former Senator Theodore Nugent Fitzpatrick (D-KY)/Senator Maxwell House (D-OK) 225 electoral votes, 48.3% of the popular vote
Unpledged Electors: 17 electoral votes, 1.9% of the popular vote
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« Reply #7 on: July 10, 2014, 08:22:51 PM »



2012

Goldwater runs strong against Windjammer in this open seat race, but the TNF nomination is surprisingly popular in Upper Appalachia and the Rust Belt, handing the election to the Democrats.

Windjammer and TNF (D)  278
Goldwater and Maxwell (R) 260

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« Reply #8 on: July 14, 2014, 03:00:53 PM »

2020

To the surprise of virtually all observers, the socially conservative evangelical populist Governor GaussLaw of Missouri defeated establishment liberal candidate Andrew Cuomo in the Democratic Party's primaries. In order to prove that he was not just a Blue Dog, GaussLaw picked as his Vice Presidential nominee the social democratic Senator Mung Beans of California, who nonetheless was pro-life like GaussLaw which made this the first all pro-life Democratic ticket since 1968.

Meanwhile the Republicans rallied around the popular Senator Goldwater of Washington whose socially libertarian views resonated with younger voters in the party who defeated the various candidates of the establishment and Tea Party factions of the GOP. For his running mate, Senator Goldwater selected the more traditonally conservative Governor Cathcon of Michigan.

The general election was quite close in the popular vote margin but GaussLaw's success in winning over much of the white vote in the Upper South along with dominance in the larger states of the Northeast and Midwest ensured a Democratic victory.




Governor GaussLaw of Missouri/Senator Mung Beans of California-50.7% 299 EVs
Senator Goldwater of Washington/Governor Cathcon of Michigan-49.2% 239 EVs
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« Reply #9 on: July 14, 2014, 07:35:45 PM »



Senator Gus Law (D-MO) / General Mung Bean (D-CA) - 282 EVs
Governor Cornelius "Cath" Constantine (R-MI) / Senator Michael "Mick" Goldwater (R-WA) - 256 EVs
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« Reply #10 on: July 14, 2014, 09:22:47 PM »

Imaginary Time!

After 8 years of prosperity under Republican President Duke Kennedy, Americans were hoping to stay the course. Republicans led originally on the ballot by over 20 points over a potential Democrat, but things changed as soon as the Republican primary went underway. Conservatives, angry at the President's expanding deficits and his ban on high fructose corn syrup, Senator Donald Goldwater of Arizona beat Vice President Roger Cinci for the nomination, and to spite the moderates, picked anti-union Governor John Maxwell to the ticket. This enraged the moderates and forced them to vote Democratic. Luckily for the Democrats, they went through a process and nominated Former Republican (switched parties in Congress) and Governor of Missouri Charles Gauss as the nominee, and he picked the incumbent Defense Secretary Michael Beans to be his VP. What was supposed to be an easy win for Republicans turned into an easy win for Democrats, even after their offensive comment about Coloradans.



Governor Charles Gauss (D-MO)/Secretary of Defense Michael "Mung" Beans (D-CA) - 55.4%, 402 EV's
Senator Donald Goldwater (R-AZ)/Governor John Maxwell (R-OK) - 42.3%, 136 EV's
Others - 2.3%
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« Reply #11 on: October 02, 2014, 11:24:51 PM »



Senator Joe Maxwell (Anti-War Coalition-OK)/Governor Lawrence Gauss (AWC-MO) - 293 EVs
President Mung Beans (D/National Unity-CA)/Governor Goldwater (R/NU-WA) - 245 EVs
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« Reply #12 on: October 03, 2014, 01:36:05 PM »

The Fifth Great Awakening radically transformed American politics. As a result of the country's renewed religious devotion, full-fledged social liberalism became untenable outside of a handful of major metropolises. In reaction to these changes, the Democratic Party attempted to increase its natural working class appeal by running socially conservative, economically left-wing candidates for the nation's highest offices. This left the Republican Party in an awkward position, as less affluent voters began to flock to the Democrats in droves. The party ultimately decided that the only way forward was to appeal explicitly to the middle and upper classes.



Governor Law (D-MO) / Senator Beans (D-CA)
Governor Maxwell (R-OK) / Senator Goldwater (R-WA)

Unfortunately for the Republicans, unusually strong showings in the Plains and Pacific Northwest were not enough to override the Democrats' equally impressive performance among Asians, Hispanics, and Midwesterners.
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« Reply #13 on: August 27, 2019, 05:43:56 AM »



Fmr. Gov. Goldwater (R-CA)/Sen. MOPolitico (R-MO) 282 EVs; 49.7% PV
Sen. General Mung Beans (D-CA)/Gov. mah519 (D-OK) 256 EVs; 48.1% PV
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« Reply #14 on: August 27, 2019, 10:03:28 AM »
« Edited: August 27, 2019, 10:13:46 AM by Lakigigar »

Goldwater - MOPolitico 259 EV's
АndriуValeriovich - mah519 279 EV's



Goldwater and MOPolitician keep the base of Moderate Republicans and Trump together, while expanding among libertarian-leaning anti-g'vment WWC people and improving very well among hispanics. AndriyValeriovich receives backlash from the left, but does well among independents, the WWC class and social conservatives with his populist message.
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« Reply #15 on: October 29, 2019, 10:37:07 PM »

Goldwater/MOPolitico: 241 EV, 48.4%
AndriyValeriovich/Lakigigar: 297 EV, 49.8%



A highly contested and polarized election, between two moderate candidates, in the end Goldwater's libertarian ideas prove unpopular among key demographics in FL, such as senior citizens.
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« Reply #16 on: November 28, 2020, 10:12:44 PM »

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« Reply #17 on: November 29, 2020, 11:46:08 AM »



The #populist Purple heart ticket of andjey and Laki wins against the Moderate Hero ticket of Goldwater and S019 with a Kennedy-esque (or Carter-esque) map.
Goldwater/S019 might have narrowly won if only the former's home state advantage in California had been slightly larger, but alas, it ended up like Steve Poizner.
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« Reply #18 on: November 29, 2020, 01:21:06 PM »

S019-Battista is the Democratic ticket while Goldwater-Laki is the Republican one. While Goldwater and Laki's more moderate Republican ideologies complement each other well, they fail to achieve good base turnout - however, S019's suburbanite liberalism isn't palatable enough for the Democrats to exploit this. A socially conservative candidate takes a significant portion of the Southern vote. Ultimately, this results in a fairly standard coalition map, though with significantly less polarization than OTL.

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« Reply #19 on: November 29, 2020, 01:28:35 PM »
« Edited: November 29, 2020, 02:07:52 PM by Western Democrat »

S019 and Goldwater each get massive homestate effects. OBD and Battista do well in the midwest and eek out wins in several other battlegrounds. A fairly standard map overall.

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« Reply #20 on: November 29, 2020, 01:37:00 PM »

S019-Battista is the Democratic ticket while Goldwater-Laki is the Republican one. While Goldwater and Laki's more moderate Republican ideologies complement each other well, they fail to achieve good base turnout - however, S019's suburbanite liberalism isn't palatable enough for the Democrats to exploit this. A socially conservative candidate takes a significant portion of the Southern vote. Ultimately, this results in a fairly standard coalition map, though with significantly less polarization than OTL.

I think you mismatched us... Laki is not a Republican and we fit each other much better than your tickets imo.
Interesting scenario though.

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« Reply #21 on: November 29, 2020, 01:41:10 PM »

S019-Battista is the Democratic ticket while Goldwater-Laki is the Republican one. While Goldwater and Laki's more moderate Republican ideologies complement each other well, they fail to achieve good base turnout - however, S019's suburbanite liberalism isn't palatable enough for the Democrats to exploit this. A socially conservative candidate takes a significant portion of the Southern vote. Ultimately, this results in a fairly standard coalition map, though with significantly less polarization than OTL.

I think you mismatched us... Laki is not a Republican and we fit each other much better than your tickets imo.
Interesting scenario though.

SKIP THIS ONE

The issue here I think is that Laki is clearly more of a Republican than I am, for instance he endorsed Trump, which is a nonstarter for any Democrat.


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« Reply #22 on: November 29, 2020, 01:41:40 PM »

S019-Battista is the Democratic ticket while Goldwater-Laki is the Republican one. While Goldwater and Laki's more moderate Republican ideologies complement each other well, they fail to achieve good base turnout - however, S019's suburbanite liberalism isn't palatable enough for the Democrats to exploit this. A socially conservative candidate takes a significant portion of the Southern vote. Ultimately, this results in a fairly standard coalition map, though with significantly less polarization than OTL.

I think you mismatched us... Laki is not a Republican and we fit each other much better than your tickets imo.
Interesting scenario though.

SKIP THIS ONE
I thought about doing Laki-Battista and Goldwater-S019 but I felt that would be too similar to the previous scenario.

Skip as well.
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« Reply #23 on: November 29, 2020, 04:37:13 PM »
« Edited: November 29, 2020, 09:43:00 PM by khuzifenq »

Michael Lind's liberaltarian (OBD + Goldwater) vs populiberal (Battista + Western Democrat) timeline. Both campaigns engage in highly aggressive and targeted pandering to specific racial/ethnic, religious, and occupational groups, in order to compensate for the lack of clear policy differences between the two platforms, and prevent the parties from losing their "traditional" bases of support.

The liberaltarian campaign targets East/Southeast Asians, Buddhists, Hindus, Mormons, Mexicans, Wiccans, Scientologists, pescetarians, allied healthcare workers, (renewable) energy sector workers, food/beverage preparation and service workers, sex workers, semiconductor manufacturers, farm laborers, and truck drivers.

The populiberal campaign targets Italian Americans, Catholics at large, African immigrants, non-Orthodox Jews, Muslims, vegans, paralegals, automobile manufacturers, retailers, professional athletes, the financial industry at large, and Amazon employees.

The combination of ideological realignment and wanton pandering to special interest groups results in 1) a surprising number of close states, 2) regional realignment along a East-West axis, and 3) Miami-Dade defying pollsters' expectations and conventional wisdom (as occurred in OTL).

States within 3% (in no particular order): AK, AZ, MT, TX, GA, NC, MI, ME



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« Reply #24 on: November 29, 2020, 06:23:16 PM »

1948
Following the death of FDR, Harry Truman was expected to win his parties nomination easily. However, the progressive wing of the Democratic Party criticized the Presidents action on Japan and his cuts to the Federal Budget. Congressman Sanders Emanuel of New York's campaign caught on fire when Truman's approvals fell through the floor. Emanuel picked Thomas Fieldman of Wyoming, a fiery yet well-regarded Senator, certainly of the left and with a heavy union background.

Republicans had an inspiring primary season too. The moderate, internationalist wing of the Republican party scored a big win with a surprising Governor John Wind to win the nomination. Conservatives considered walking out and running a third party candidate, but instead knocked out Wind's VP pick, Attorney General Benjamin Constine, a very noted internationalist, and instead put in Oklahoma Congressman George Maxwell, a libertarian Republican. Wind and Maxwell disagreed on just about every issue, but united under the banner of knocking out the Democrats and against left extremism.

The Republican ticket won strongly, but Emanuel did stronger than expected, with most polling having him trailing Wind by over 20 points.



Governor John Wind (R-VT)/Congressman George Maxwell (R-OK) - 51.8%, 301 EV's
Congressman Sanders Emanuel (D-NY)/Senator Thomas Fieldman (D-WY) - 45.3%, 171 EV's
Southern Candidates - 2.4%, 0 EV's
Others - 0.5%, 0 EV's

How is that 0 electoral votes for southern candidates?
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