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« Reply #25 on: July 31, 2014, 01:56:25 pm »

Without any objection,
Senator TNF's amendment has been adopted.

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#420YES Amendment

The right of all adult persons to engage in the recreational use of mind-altering substances in private shall not be infringed. No law shall be made abridging this right, nor shall any person be imprisoned for any length of time for the recreational use of mind-altering substances, nor any involuntary rehabilitation program prescribed by a court of law. The production and distribution of mind-altering substances shall be subject to all applicable regulation as proscribed by the Senate of Atlasia, as well as regulations proscribed by the Department of Internal Affairs and Regional legislatures and internal affairs departments.
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« Reply #26 on: August 01, 2014, 04:40:16 pm »

I don't think there's much more to add here. I would like to proceed to a final vote on the legislation.
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« Reply #27 on: August 01, 2014, 04:51:21 pm »

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The right of all adult persons to engage in the recreational use of mind-altering substances in private shall not be infringed. No law shall be made abridging this right, nor shall any person be imprisoned for any length of time for the recreational use of mind-altering substances, nor any involuntary rehabilitation program prescribed by a court of law. The production and distribution of mind-altering substances shall be subject to all applicable regulation as proscribed by the Senate of Atlasia, as well as regulations proscribed by the Department of Internal Affairs and Regional legislatures and internal affairs departments.

A final vote is now open. Please senators, vote AYE, NAY or Abstain.
(Well, given there are only 8 senators right now, I guess the quorum for the 2/3 third majority isn't the same, I will check).
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« Reply #28 on: August 01, 2014, 05:31:18 pm »

Aye
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« Reply #29 on: August 01, 2014, 05:35:29 pm »

Aye
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« Reply #30 on: August 01, 2014, 08:39:32 pm »

Abstain
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The result of a neocon and libertarian having a baby while drunk, and leaving it to be raised by hippie liberal wolves.
Here is my attempt and explaining my own confusing and contradictory views
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« Reply #31 on: August 01, 2014, 10:39:32 pm »

Nay.
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« Reply #32 on: August 01, 2014, 11:54:28 pm »

Nay

And, yeah, 2/3 remains 2/3, so this needs 6 votes out of 8 possible to pass.
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« Reply #33 on: August 02, 2014, 08:30:59 am »

Nay

And, yeah, 2/3 remains 2/3, so this needs 6 votes out of 8 possible to pass.

Back when Clarence resigned from the Senate, the amendment to abolish the Death Penalty passed 6/9 and was sent to the regions where it was ratified, so yea.

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« Reply #34 on: August 02, 2014, 08:35:00 am »

Abstain

I think people have the right to do what they want with themselves as long as the rights of another are not afflicted by it. That said, I worry that this would hinder the ability of gov't to protect those said rights of another from such affliction based on the awkward almost two step wording (one step forward, half step back).
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« Reply #35 on: August 02, 2014, 09:50:02 am »

Abstain. I'm all for mind-altering substances (most of them, at least), but I don't think we need to put them up there with free speech and freedom of religion. That could have unforeseen negative consequences.
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There is a lot of humor to be mined from this as the mind of LBJ in the body of an 18 month old baby girl is quite hilarious.

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« Reply #36 on: August 04, 2014, 12:26:11 am »

Adam is the only one left who hasn't vote, no?
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« Reply #37 on: August 04, 2014, 02:38:18 am »

Adam is the only one left who hasn't vote, no?

Yep,
But there isn't a clear majority. Considering 2 new senators will soon be elected, I prefer to wait.
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« Reply #38 on: August 04, 2014, 02:04:42 pm »

Abstain
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« Reply #39 on: August 04, 2014, 03:20:40 pm »

Abstain.

For many of the same reasons as Alfred.
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« Reply #40 on: August 05, 2014, 11:17:17 am »

The moderate heroism is strong in this thread.
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« Reply #41 on: August 05, 2014, 12:58:17 pm »

The moderate heroism is strong in this thread.

Is not thinking the right to use cocaine is equal to free speech "Moderate Heroism" now? Are you a Fake Leftist if you don't support giving everyone free access to meth?
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« Reply #42 on: August 06, 2014, 10:29:30 am »

The moderate heroism is strong in this thread.

Is not thinking the right to use cocaine is equal to free speech "Moderate Heroism" now? Are you a Fake Leftist if you don't support giving everyone free access to meth?

I tend to think that yes, the right to do what you want with your own body is a right of equal importance to free speech.
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« Reply #43 on: August 06, 2014, 05:24:04 pm »

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#420YES Amendment

The right of all adult persons to engage in the recreational use of mind-altering substances in private shall not be infringed. No law shall be made abridging this right, nor shall any person be imprisoned for any length of time for the recreational use of mind-altering substances, nor any involuntary rehabilitation program prescribed by a court of law. The production and distribution of mind-altering substances shall be subject to all applicable regulation as proscribed by the Senate of Atlasia, as well as regulations proscribed by the Department of Internal Affairs and Regional legislatures and internal affairs departments.

The results of the vote:
Aye (2): Senator bore, Senator TNF
Nay (2): Senator Tyrion, Senator Lumine
Abstain (5): Senator Goldwater, Senator North Carolina Yankee, Senator Alfred  F. Jones, Senator Spiral, Senator Cynic

This amendment has failed to pass the senate.
I, Windjammer, president of the senate, certify these results are accurate.

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