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« on: August 14, 2014, 03:16:20 am »

New Poll: Iowa Senator by Rasmussen on 2014-08-12

Summary: D: 43%, R: 43%, I: 6%, U: 8%

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« Reply #1 on: August 14, 2014, 05:20:30 am »

All I have to say is thank god Latham didn't run, this race would probably be lean R by now.
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« Reply #2 on: August 14, 2014, 09:40:03 am »

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.
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« Reply #3 on: August 14, 2014, 11:12:16 am »

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.
No, Latham would have no troubles stomping a joke candidate like Braley.
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« Reply #4 on: August 14, 2014, 11:47:42 am »

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.
No, Latham would have no troubles stomping a joke candidate like Braley.

I think if Braley ran a normal campaign he'd end up beating Latham (which polling showed would happen) but yeah if Latham was the nominee right now he'd be cruising.
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« Reply #5 on: August 14, 2014, 02:17:33 pm »

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.

No it's not. It's purple with a blue tint that can easily be stomped with the right candidates. Braley is an out of touch elitist that thinks offering eggs is a public disturbance, insults a beloved senator, and talks down to his constituents. Ernst won't win as much as he will lose.
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« Reply #6 on: August 14, 2014, 03:30:14 pm »

So Braley has a 3 or 4 point advantage because it's Rassy.

Still a tossup in my book.
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« Reply #7 on: August 14, 2014, 03:57:23 pm »

As long as Ernst doesnt extend her lead, like we saw Land do earlier in the campaign season, we can substain minimal losses like in SD and Mnt and WVa and win KY or GA.

I would be fine with a 2-4 seat loss.
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« Reply #8 on: August 14, 2014, 05:14:05 pm »

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.
No, Latham would have no troubles stomping a joke candidate like Braley.

Latham would have been like Terri Lynn Land, overhyped, but not all that formidable in the end. Not going to argue about it, though, not worth the time.

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.

No it's not. It's purple with a blue tint that can easily be stomped with the right candidates. Braley is an out of touch elitist that thinks offering eggs is a public disturbance, insults a beloved senator, and talks down to his constituents. Ernst won't win as much as he will lose.

Iowa is D+1, for a rural state, that's quite blue. Ernst considers mass murder an accident and thinks that there were WMDs in Iraq hat were moved, which are real crazy positions to take.
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« Reply #9 on: August 14, 2014, 05:54:13 pm »

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.

Terry Branstad and Chuck Grassley agree.
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« Reply #10 on: August 14, 2014, 06:02:19 pm »

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.

Terry Branstad and Chuck Grassley agree.

I didn't say there were no elected Republicans. It is worth noting that both of them have a long history of being elected. It's a matter of opinion, but I wouldn't really consider Ernst to be on the same level as either one and that's who is running in this race, not Brandstad or Grassley.
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« Reply #11 on: August 14, 2014, 07:02:02 pm »

Iowa is a blue state, Braley would have won regardless of who ran, but against Ernst, who is crazy, he'll win easily.

Terry Branstad and Chuck Grassley agree.

I didn't say there were no elected Republicans. It is worth noting that both of them have a long history of being elected. It's a matter of opinion, but I wouldn't really consider Ernst to be on the same level as either one and that's who is running in this race, not Brandstad or Grassley.

Whom are aggressively campaigning for her
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« Reply #12 on: August 14, 2014, 07:40:41 pm »

Iowa is D+1, for a rural state, that's quite blue. Ernst considers mass murder an accident and thinks that there were WMDs in Iraq hat were moved, which are real crazy positions to take.

2004 called.  They want their campaign issues back.  Nobody outside of the leftist blogosphere cares if a candidate thinks there were WMDs in Iraq a decade ago.
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« Reply #13 on: August 14, 2014, 08:36:16 pm »

Iowa is D+1, for a rural state, that's quite blue. Ernst considers mass murder an accident and thinks that there were WMDs in Iraq hat were moved, which are real crazy positions to take.

2004 called.  They want their campaign issues back.  Nobody outside of the leftist blogosphere cares if a candidate thinks there were WMDs in Iraq a decade ago.

Ernst is the one bringing up old issues, look it up. You should email her and tell her 2004 called, because she's the one trying to re-fight old issues.
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« Reply #14 on: August 14, 2014, 08:39:25 pm »

Iowa is D+1, for a rural state, that's quite blue. Ernst considers mass murder an accident and thinks that there were WMDs in Iraq hat were moved, which are real crazy positions to take.

2004 called.  They want their campaign issues back.  Nobody outside of the leftist blogosphere cares if a candidate thinks there were WMDs in Iraq a decade ago.

Well, voters do care if a candidate is a conspiracy nut, regardless if the conspiracy theories he/she peddles are old or new.
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« Reply #15 on: August 14, 2014, 08:50:57 pm »

Ernst is the one bringing up old issues, look it up. You should email her and tell her 2004 called, because she's the one trying to re-fight old issues.

She's not trying to refight anything.  She misspoke.  She later clarified her remarks, stating that Iraq had WMDs at one time - which they did.  Democrats are the ones trying to make an issue out of something that happened over 10 years ago.  Ernst hasn't raised anything since May. 

Your candidate is an out-of-touch elitist trial lawyer with serious character issues that is out-of-step with Iowa's farming tradition.  That is much more salient to 2014.
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« Reply #16 on: August 14, 2014, 08:55:16 pm »

Ernst is the one bringing up old issues, look it up. You should email her and tell her 2004 called, because she's the one trying to re-fight old issues.

She's not trying to refight anything.  She misspoke.  She later clarified her remarks, stating that Iraq had WMDs at one time - which they did.  Democrats are the ones trying to make an issue out of something that happened over 10 years ago.  Ernst hasn't raised anything since May. 

Your candidate is an out-of-touch elitist trial lawyer with serious character issues that is out-of-step with Iowa's farming tradition.  That is much more salient to 2014.

She didn't misspeak, she made a claim about WMDs being moved, that's not misspeaking at all. When you have to go to this length to explain for your candidate, you are losing the argument.

You sound like a cheap ad, so please, stop.
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« Reply #17 on: August 14, 2014, 09:03:21 pm »

She didn't misspeak, she made a claim about WMDs being moved, that's not misspeaking at all. When you have to go to this length to explain for your candidate, you are losing the argument.

You sound like a cheap ad, so please, stop.

Two sentences is a long explanation?  I don't think so. 

When your best argument about why a candidate can't win is over something that happened 10 years ago, you're losing the election.
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« Reply #18 on: August 14, 2014, 09:10:33 pm »

She didn't misspeak, she made a claim about WMDs being moved, that's not misspeaking at all. When you have to go to this length to explain for your candidate, you are losing the argument.

You sound like a cheap ad, so please, stop.

Two sentences is a long explanation?  I don't think so. 

When your best argument about why a candidate can't win is over something that happened 10 years ago, you're losing the election.

It's the fact that she's even talking about something that happened 10 years ago that makes her a bad candidate, especially something that was a failure. Besides that, she called mass murder an accident, which you could call misspeaking, but not knowing the difference between the words incident and accident is a pretty amateur mistake to make.  And recently, she backed off some statements she made about Agenda 21.
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« Reply #19 on: August 14, 2014, 09:19:01 pm »

It's the fact that she's even talking about something that happened 10 years ago that makes her a bad candidate, especially something that was a failure.

You make it sound like Ernst is going around Iowa talking about WMDs in Iraq daily.  She misspoke once in front of an editorial meeting.  Where she was probably asked about it.  She then clarified her remarks.  And has moved on.  Unlike the left-wing blogosphere.

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Besides that, she called mass murder an accident, which you could call misspeaking, but not knowing the difference between the words incident and accident is a pretty amateur mistake to make.

Which has been picked up by nothing but the left-wing blogosphere.  And she admits she misspoke and has moved on, unlike the left-wing blogosphere.

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And recently, she backed off some statements she made about Agenda 21.

Which is something nobody has heard of.  Can there be a gaffe about things people don't care about?

Meanwhille, your candidate insulted the state's sitting Senator and farmers and threatened to sue because the chickens she was using as theraputic animals for disabled kids were on his lawn.  He has trouble connecting with ordinary Iowans and is throwing away what should be an easy win in November.
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« Reply #20 on: August 14, 2014, 10:04:28 pm »

It's the fact that she's even talking about something that happened 10 years ago that makes her a bad candidate, especially something that was a failure.

You make it sound like Ernst is going around Iowa talking about WMDs in Iraq daily.  She misspoke once in front of an editorial meeting.  Where she was probably asked about it.  She then clarified her remarks.  And has moved on.  Unlike the left-wing blogosphere.

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Besides that, she called mass murder an accident, which you could call misspeaking, but not knowing the difference between the words incident and accident is a pretty amateur mistake to make.

Which has been picked up by nothing but the left-wing blogosphere.  And she admits she misspoke and has moved on, unlike the left-wing blogosphere.

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And recently, she backed off some statements she made about Agenda 21.

Which is something nobody has heard of.  Can there be a gaffe about things people don't care about?

Meanwhille, your candidate insulted the state's sitting Senator and farmers and threatened to sue because the chickens she was using as theraputic animals for disabled kids were on his lawn.  He has trouble connecting with ordinary Iowans and is throwing away what should be an easy win in November.

All those things are going to come back on her in ads, and most voters won't be impressed. And, it's never a good thing when a candidate is talking about conspiracy theories and then walks it back. If it wasn't a problem, she wouldn't have taken it back.

Repeatedly misspeaking (if that's what you want to call it, lol) is the sign of a terrible candidate.
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