Why should a liberal Deomocrat support Evan Bayh?

[A18]

Maybe your attitude would change given the fact that half of people who declare bankruptcy do so because of large medical bills.

I've read that about 50% of bankruptcy filings are due to medical bills (due to lack of health insurance or inadequate health insurance). Another large percentage is due to divorce. Only a minority of bankruptcy cases are due to fiscal irresponsibility.

So yeah, the bankruptcy bill sucks. The credit card companies can change your interest rate from 8% to 25% without any reason, totally screwing over the consumer.

They still have to pay, not just screw people over.

And of course the credit card companies should be able to change the interest rate to whatever they want. That is, whatever was agreed upon by both parties.

[TheresNoMoney]

Another one of the many reasons for universal, single-payer health care.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

They still have to pay, not just screw people over.

And of course the credit card companies should be able to change the interest rate to whatever they want. That is, whatever was agreed upon by both parties.

So a 25% interest rate seems reasonable to you?

[A18]

Another one of the many reasons for universal, single-payer health care.

No thanks, I oppose slavery and fascism.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/hl856.cfm

[TheresNoMoney]

I had my interest rate changed from 8% to 22% through no fault of my own. I never made any late payments or anything. They just did it because they could.

Needless to say, I cancelled that card and will never do business with that company again.

[A18]

They still have to pay, not just screw people over.

And of course the credit card companies should be able to change the interest rate to whatever they want. That is, whatever was agreed upon by both parties.

So a 25% interest rate seems reasonable to you?

No, but it should be up to the two parties to agree to whatever terms they want. There's competition, of course.

[opebo]

They still have to pay, not just screw people over.

And of course the credit card companies should be able to change the interest rate to whatever they want. That is, whatever was agreed upon by both parties.

So a 25% interest rate seems reasonable to you?

Maybe Al Queda will blow up some of the little Eichmans down at the credit card company.

[TheresNoMoney]

But there are no guarantees. After an introductory period, they can change your interest rate for no reason. It is corporate theft.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Another one of the many reasons for universal, single-payer health care.

No thanks, I oppose slavery and fascism.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/hl856.cfm

For all their Canada bashing, they still admit it's better than the US. That's pretty funny.

[TheresNoMoney]

Single-payer would be cheaper than our current system and do wonders for our economy and the well-being of American citizens.

[opebo]

Senator Kennedy tried to have a homeowner's exemption for people who large medical bills, but it got shot down. Get sick, and lose your house now.

It is amazing that what used to be 'unsecured debt' - basically just trash debt - before the Bill, is now as secure as a Mortgage, and they get 25% interest on it!  That is some sweet lobbying.

[A18]

Another one of the many reasons for universal, single-payer health care.

No thanks, I oppose slavery and fascism.

http://www.heritage.org/Research/HealthCare/hl856.cfm

For all their Canada bashing, they still admit it's better than the US. That's pretty funny.

Well, that obviously depends who you are. And actually, they cited the World Health Organization for that.

[A18]

Single-payer would be cheaper than our current system and do wonders for our economy and the well-being of American citizens.

No facts, no stats, just nonsense opinion. And it is clearly anti-freedom.

[opebo]

Single-payer would be cheaper than our current system and do wonders for our economy and the well-being of American citizens.

No facts, no stats, just nonsense opinion. And it is clearly anti-freedom.

So is using the State to collect private debts.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Well, that obviously depends who you are. And actually, they cited the World Health Organization for that.

Anyways, Canada completely kicks our butt on these 2 measures (that are important to look at together). They both have longer life expectancies, and spend much less of their GDP on health care.

[J.R. Brown]

Anyways, does anyone know Bayh's position on the Iraq war? He voted for it.

So did Kerry. The entire Democratic Senate flip-flopped.

George W. Bush:

Opposed Homeland Security Department
Then he was for it

flip-flop

Opposed an independent 9/11 Commission
Then he was for it

Flippity-flop

Opposed McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill
Then he was for it

Flippity-floppity

[A18]

Anyways, does anyone know Bayh's position on the Iraq war? He voted for it.

So did Kerry. The entire Democratic Senate flip-flopped.

George W. Bush:

Opposed Homeland Security Department
Then he was for it

flip-flop

Opposed an independent 9/11 Commission
Then he was for it

Flippity-flop

Opposed McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill
Then he was for it

Flippity-floppity

This would be why I thought you were 12.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

Anyways, does anyone know Bayh's position on the Iraq war? He voted for it.

So did Kerry. The entire Democratic Senate flip-flopped.

George W. Bush:

Opposed Homeland Security Department
Then he was for it

flip-flop

Opposed an independent 9/11 Commission
Then he was for it

Flippity-flop

Opposed McCain-Feingold Campaign Finance Bill
Then he was for it

Flippity-floppity

This would be why I thought you were 12.

So how old was the person who came up with the attacks on Kerry? 8?

[A18]

Single-payer would be cheaper than our current system and do wonders for our economy and the well-being of American citizens.

No facts, no stats, just nonsense opinion. And it is clearly anti-freedom.

So is using the State to collect private debts.

It's a legal contract. As in, enforced by the state.

[A18]

It's one thing to change your mind on principle, another to change your mind on policy.

One of those was a flip-flop on principle: McCain-Feingold. Certainly that was terrible, and I condemn Bush for it. Not as bad as changing your mind on a war, though.

[J.R. Brown]

OMG, lighten up. I could give you a reason why I thought you were tight ass redneck fascist pig. But I'm not going to do that, because I'm a civilized human being.

I'm not 12, but I am an immature college freshman, and I like to lighten things up a bit.

[Smash255]

It's one thing to change your mind on principle, another to change your mind on policy.

One of those was a flip-flop on principle: McCain-Feingold. Certainly that was terrible, and I condemn Bush for it. Not as bad as changing your mind on a war, though.

Well their is a little something called facts that tend to get in the way  When the facts change, then usually a mind changes

[J.R. Brown]

John Kerry did change his mind on principle. The intelligence community told him one thing before the vote. So, he voted for it. Then when he found out they lied, he came out against the war. It's a war built up with lies and deception.

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

John Kerry did change his mind on principle. The intelligence community told him one thing before the vote. So, he voted for it. Then when he found out they lied, he came out against the war. It's a war built up with lies and deception. Ignorance truly must be bliss if anyone believes that George W. Bush, a man who has spent most of his adult life in the business of oil, really gives a damn about the people of Iraq. He wants oil and power.

He beleived the intelligence reports. Senator Nelson of Florida said specifically that he was fooled into voting for the war by them. The information available had changed significantly when Kerry then started saying it was a mistake.

I'm not really defending Kerry here since obviously some Democrats didn't trust what the Bush adminstration was saying, and weren't fooled, so that isn't the best excuse.

[Democratic Hawk]

Why wouldn't a liberal support Evan Bayh? He's no John Kerry, but he's still a left-wing extremist hack.

Aye and I'm the Queen a' Sheba!

Liberal, let alone left-wing extremist, is one tag the GOP couldn't stick on Evan Bayh. Bayh's what he is a plain, common-sense speaking moderate/centrist Democrat, who appeals across the political and ideological spectrum. I think as potential presidents go - he'd be one of the least polarising

Great article from Bill. Thanks Nick I enjoyed reading that

Dave