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« on: August 29, 2014, 11:04:25 am »

New Poll: Vermont Governor by Rasmussen on 2014-08-29

Summary: D: 48%, R: 36%, I: 0%, U: 16%

Poll Source URL: Full Poll Details
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« Reply #1 on: August 29, 2014, 12:24:45 pm »
« Edited: August 29, 2014, 12:58:47 pm by ElectionsGuy »

What a weak showing for Shumlin. But I guess this could be just one bad poll.
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« Reply #2 on: August 29, 2014, 12:52:38 pm »

I don't get Vermont.
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« Reply #3 on: August 29, 2014, 01:00:56 pm »

I don't get Vermont.
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« Reply #4 on: August 29, 2014, 01:31:47 pm »

Wow, this is actually on the remote edges of being competitive. But Shumlin will obviously still win.
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« Reply #5 on: August 29, 2014, 03:36:56 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.
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« Reply #6 on: August 29, 2014, 06:07:47 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

Yeah. I just don't understand how a state could elect a Senator like Bernie Sanders twice comfortably, and have the Democratic Governor leading by less than 20.
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« Reply #7 on: August 29, 2014, 06:23:38 pm »

YouGov was actually really generous to Shumlin, if this is true.
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« Reply #8 on: August 29, 2014, 06:26:06 pm »

YouGov was actually really generous to Shumlin, if this is true.

Well, whatever the Republican's name is probably got a post primary bump.
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« Reply #9 on: August 29, 2014, 06:27:13 pm »

This is Rasmussen, folks. Moving along...
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« Reply #10 on: August 29, 2014, 08:27:51 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.
Presumably the Vermont's GOP is dramatically different from the National GOP
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« Reply #11 on: August 29, 2014, 09:19:22 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.
Presumably the Vermont's GOP is dramatically different from the National GOP

If only the national GOP was more like the Vermont GOP then. Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: August 29, 2014, 09:28:15 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

Yeah. I just don't understand how a state could elect a Senator like Bernie Sanders twice comfortably, and have the Democratic Governor leading by less than 20.

Yeah, Vermont has a Republican lieutenant governor who won with 57% in 2012, basically getting nearly 1/2 of Obama voters.  It's just incredible.
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« Reply #13 on: August 29, 2014, 09:36:24 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

Yeah. I just don't understand how a state could elect a Senator like Bernie Sanders twice comfortably, and have the Democratic Governor leading by less than 20.

Yeah, Vermont has a Republican lieutenant governor who won with 57% in 2012, basically getting nearly 1/2 of Obama voters.  It's just incredible.

His name is Phil Scott - he's a real stand up guy in my opinion. Probably my favorite Republican in New England.
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« Reply #14 on: August 29, 2014, 09:45:59 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

Yeah. I just don't understand how a state could elect a Senator like Bernie Sanders twice comfortably, and have the Democratic Governor leading by less than 20.

Yeah, Vermont has a Republican lieutenant governor who won with 57% in 2012, basically getting nearly 1/2 of Obama voters.  It's just incredible.

His name is Phil Scott - he's a real stand up guy in my opinion. Probably my favorite Republican in New England.

If I were one of the Democrats who lost to him (in 2010 or 2012), I'd feel pretty bad.  Losing a statewide race in Vermont as a Democrat seems pretty embarrassing, even if they have some local GOP influence.

What did Phil Scott do to make himself so popular?  In 2010, Shumlin barely won so it's not too surprising that he got in.  But he increased his support from 2010 to 2012.  That's an impressive feat.
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« Reply #15 on: August 30, 2014, 04:32:21 am »

Far from stellar numbers for Shumlin. And Obama's popularity in state (according to Gallup) is modest 44 too. Would Scott run against Shumlin (instead of preferring to wait) - it would be an extremely interesting race..
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« Reply #16 on: August 30, 2014, 09:14:49 am »

What did Phil Scott do to make himself so popular?  In 2010, Shumlin barely won so it's not too surprising that he got in.  But he increased his support from 2010 to 2012.  That's an impressive feat.

He's just been a moderate. Really, he's not done anything special.
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« Reply #17 on: August 30, 2014, 09:39:47 am »

What did Phil Scott do to make himself so popular?  In 2010, Shumlin barely won so it's not too surprising that he got in.  But he increased his support from 2010 to 2012.  That's an impressive feat.

He's just been a moderate. Really, he's not done anything special.

I would say - authentic moderate. Sorry, there are few of them in Republican party. And not long ago there were people like Jacob Javits, who was an authentic liberal. Nothing like that now..
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« Reply #18 on: August 31, 2014, 06:09:33 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

They do, and it is.  I have said this several times: people in upper New England are not overly comfortable with the idea of being loyal Democrats, but they certainly aren't comfortable with the national GOP's catering to social conservatives.  Moderate Republicans can still do quite well in the region.
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« Reply #19 on: August 31, 2014, 11:50:43 pm »

Vermonters must think there are two separate republican parties or something, and that the one in vermont is different than the "big" one.

They do, and it is.  I have said this several times: people in upper New England are not overly comfortable with the idea of being loyal Democrats, but they certainly aren't comfortable with the national GOP's catering to social conservatives.  Moderate Republicans can still do quite well in the region.

Agree. Even Milne, who did very little campaigning and is relatively little known, looks at least decent in the last poll. Scott could even be ahead...
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« Reply #20 on: September 01, 2014, 02:05:41 am »

Eh, like Mead, I've never had the impression Shumlin was *super* popular. He barely won in 2010 and underperformed Obama a lot in 2012.
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« Reply #21 on: September 01, 2014, 04:25:57 am »

Eh, like Mead, I've never had the impression Shumlin was *super* popular. He barely won in 2010 and underperformed Obama a lot in 2012.

2010 was very good Republican year and his opponent was sitting Lt. Governor. But, yes, it seems he isn't too popular. Only "general" strong Democratic leanings of Vermont put him out of danger so far..
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