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« on: September 14, 2014, 08:01:08 am »

59/29. 2/1 in Fitzgerald's NE, 1/6 of Dems voting Pub. Isn't even winning a majority of anti-SB2 voters.
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« Reply #1 on: September 14, 2014, 08:18:00 am »

We may be witnessing the reversal of 2006 in Ohio.
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« Reply #2 on: September 14, 2014, 09:37:17 am »

It's funny how OH/PA are going to be diametrically opposed this year in voting.
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« Reply #3 on: September 14, 2014, 12:14:43 pm »

Sadly, FitzGerald may end up dragging the other statewide Dems down with him.
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« Reply #4 on: September 14, 2014, 12:54:44 pm »

Jesus. I did hear that Fitzgerald's endorsements were getting pulled. Looks like he may beat Corbett for biggest loser after all.
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« Reply #5 on: September 14, 2014, 12:57:40 pm »

Good to see the failed and humbled union buster taking the criminal to the woodshed.
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« Reply #6 on: September 14, 2014, 01:23:13 pm »

There's a section on the site that lets you view comments by the poll responders. Here's some good highlights:

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2. Can you please elaborate on the reasons that Ed FitzGerald’s being alone in a car with a woman not his wife, and driving for 10 years without a regular Ohio driver’s license, do or do not affect your vote?

Becoming Governor of the State of Ohio must not mean that much to him, as he had to know being caught with a woman (not his wife) in a parking lot in the early morning hours, would be devastating to his campaign. What’s more important to him, his libido or the people of Ohio. Guess he answered that question!

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2. Can you please elaborate on the reasons that Ed FitzGerald’s being alone in a car with a woman not his wife, and driving for 10 years without a regular Ohio driver’s license, do or do not affect your vote?

All I have to know about Mr FitzGerald is that he is a Democrat and since the Democrat Party has been high-jacked by radical leftists I do not want anymore Democrats holding office, anywhere!

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4. Could you tell us why you support/oppose the two-year freeze on state standards for renewable energy and energy efficiency?

Global warming is a hoax.  A freeze on standards for energy helped the economy.

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5. Could you tell us why you support/oppose the Common Core education standards, and your main source of information about them?

Common Core is a dsaster (sic) for optimal education of our children' It dumbs down learning for all children. It does not allow for learning differences and styles for all children. All children with various type of learning disabilities to gifted are treated equally. A sample of a page in a 7th grade text book on the 2nd Amendment was suited for a 2nd grader and was so distorted to deny the right to have and bear arms. Common core is very very distructive (sic) to educating our children.

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5. Could you tell us why you support/oppose the Common Core education standards, and your main source of information about them?

I strongly oppose the Common Core because it very clearly comes from the government. I have read Glenn Beck's book and we received information from our church on it and I am very well read on it and do oppose it.
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« Reply #7 on: September 14, 2014, 01:25:01 pm »

Safe R it is then.
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« Reply #8 on: September 14, 2014, 04:34:06 pm »

Will this rout be compartmentalized or do you think Ohio will be a light red state going into 2016?
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« Reply #9 on: September 14, 2014, 04:36:31 pm »

Will this rout be compartmentalized or do you think Ohio will be a light red state going into 2016?

No more than Davis winning would make KS a D state, or Rauner/Foley winning would make IL/CT R states.
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« Reply #10 on: September 14, 2014, 06:11:10 pm »

Will this rout be compartmentalized or do you think Ohio will be a light red state going into 2016?

No more than Davis winning would make KS a D state, or Rauner/Foley winning would make IL/CT R states.

Are there any situations where midterm elections may set the course for the presidential?

I can see the prestige of the Democratic Party being damaged in a swing state in this situation. The voters may have been able to say "Fitzgerald is an idiot with a detachable penis" or it could give Republicans momentum. I give it a 50/50 chance that this affects 2016.
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« Reply #11 on: September 14, 2014, 07:14:57 pm »

Will this rout be compartmentalized or do you think Ohio will be a light red state going into 2016?

No more than Davis winning would make KS a D state, or Rauner/Foley winning would make IL/CT R states.

Are there any situations where midterm elections may set the course for the presidential?

I can see the prestige of the Democratic Party being damaged in a swing state in this situation. The voters may have been able to say "Fitzgerald is an idiot with a detachable penis" or it could give Republicans momentum. I give it a 50/50 chance that this affects 2016.


This race probably just does damage to the already weak Ohio Democratic Party, not the National Parties chances in Ohio.
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« Reply #12 on: September 14, 2014, 07:52:24 pm »

Will this rout be compartmentalized or do you think Ohio will be a light red state going into 2016?

No more than Davis winning would make KS a D state, or Rauner/Foley winning would make IL/CT R states.

Are there any situations where midterm elections may set the course for the presidential?

I can see the prestige of the Democratic Party being damaged in a swing state in this situation. The voters may have been able to say "Fitzgerald is an idiot with a detachable penis" or it could give Republicans momentum. I give it a 50/50 chance that this affects 2016.


This race probably just does damage to the already weak Ohio Democratic Party, not the National Parties chances in Ohio.

I can imagine where state parties eventually drag down national ones campaigning in those states.
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« Reply #13 on: September 14, 2014, 10:43:25 pm »

The publisher of the Columbus Distort has donated heavily to the Kasich campaign.
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« Reply #14 on: September 14, 2014, 10:50:26 pm »

And did they even read the details of why he was in the car with the woman? There was absolutely nothing at all to the story that was scandalous.

I was in a woman's car several years ago because she drove me home from an event, and that was all there was. There wasn't anything else going on whatsoever.

People drive around in the same car all the time, and there's nothing scandalous about it.
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« Reply #15 on: September 14, 2014, 10:54:34 pm »

Here's the thing about the Dispatch. While their recent Senate and Presidential polls from 2010 and 2012 were both impressively accurate, their Governor polls are off-track. They had Kasich winning by 12 in 2010; he won by 2.

It's also worth mentioning that the Columbus Dispatch has a record in Ohio for being horribly biased for Kasich. They endorsed Kasich in 2010 and ever since then, their reporters have gone before the press asking and then reciting Kasich talking points. They never bother to give the other side a fair chance. They chose to cover a graduation speech by Kasich over reporting on FitzGerald's challenge for Kasich to veto the anti-audit JobsOhio bill and even in non-editorials, you can notice they really have something out against FitzGerald who they consistently continue to condemn over the "affair" and license issues.

So throw this poll exactly where all Dispatch newspapers should go; the trash. Fitzy will lose, but not by 30 points. My God.
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« Reply #16 on: September 14, 2014, 10:59:20 pm »

Also, this is a mail poll.
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« Reply #17 on: September 14, 2014, 11:07:49 pm »

While the woman in the car story is a bunch of bogus (heck I just got home and a girl dropped me off in her car, no funny business), his driving without a license in on him and I hope Kasich pounds Fitgerald's sorry ass to kingdom come.
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« Reply #18 on: September 15, 2014, 11:09:49 am »

Will this rout be compartmentalized or do you think Ohio will be a light red state going into 2016?

No more than Davis winning would make KS a D state, or Rauner/Foley winning would make IL/CT R states.

Are there any situations where midterm elections may set the course for the presidential?

I can see the prestige of the Democratic Party being damaged in a swing state in this situation. The voters may have been able to say "Fitzgerald is an idiot with a detachable penis" or it could give Republicans momentum. I give it a 50/50 chance that this affects 2016.


This race probably just does damage to the already weak Ohio Democratic Party, not the National Parties chances in Ohio.

I can imagine where state parties eventually drag down national ones campaigning in those states.

Compare the 2010 Portman/Fisher senate race to the 2012 OH presidential race results and I think you'll find your answer. Likewise the OH GOP being near utterly routed (outside the Auditor's race) in 2006 didn't prevent McCain from being at least competitive in the state two years later.
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