Senate Protest and Analysis Thread

[Purple State]

Would the Senate mind repealing this?

[tmthforu94]

Would the Senate mind repealing this?

Just for clarification, I introduced the repeal of the Privacy Protection Act on behalf of a constituent. I personally voted against the repeal. Ironically, I said...

Nay
This would be terrible, and create much more uneeded drama on Atlasia. You all will regret your "Aye" vote in a few weeks...

Change weeks to months, and "you all" to "many of you", and I nailed it.

[Marokai Backbeat]

I'm fine with the current state of things, as I have nothing to hide.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Not this time, PS.

[Purple State]

Oh, c'mon. It was a mess over on the elections board, for no real reason other than people got carried away posting private correspondences.

[bgwah]

Would the Senate mind repealing this?

If someone isn't in office or running for office...Is there actually any punishment?

[Purple State]

Would the Senate mind repealing this?

If someone isn't in office or running for office...Is there actually any punishment?

No. Feel free to fix that if you would like.

[Antonio the Sixth]

I'm fine with the current state of things, as I have nothing to hide.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Hey guys, do we want to recess like we did last year? If so I would suggest not introducing much more legislation.

[bgwah]

Hey guys, do we want to recess like we did last year? If so I would suggest not introducing much more legislation.

I have nothing else to do for the Holidays, so... no.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Hey guys, do we want to recess like we did last year? If so I would suggest not introducing much more legislation.

I have nothing else to do for the Holidays, so... no.

You better hope your collegues also don't have a life.

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

Methinks it would be freaking awesome if some of you introduce this:

Thanks Andrew Resolution

The Senate is hereby thanking Honorable AndrewCT, on an occasion of his retirement, for his longtime, distinguished service for Atlasia on various positions, especially as the Senator of the Republic.

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Just saying... the title of this bill is just a little bit creepy sounding:

Freedom to Enjoy Oneself in Public Bill

[Marokai Backbeat]

Just saying... the title of this bill is just a little bit creepy sounding:

Freedom to Enjoy Oneself in Public Bill

Perhaps we can switch the title to "Relieve" instead of Enjoy?

[Queen Mum Inks.LWC]

Just saying... the title of this bill is just a little bit creepy sounding:

Freedom to Enjoy Oneself in Public Bill

Perhaps we can switch the title to "Relieve" instead of Enjoy?

"But officer, I thought it was ok to piss on the tree!"

[Bacon King]

I don't know if I have to do anything formally, but I've resigned from the Senate:

https://uselectionatlas.org/FORUM/index.php?topic=132615.0

[MASHED POTATOES. VOTE!]

People should really use swearing thread

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

anyone else find it strange that a bill could be passed or a nominee confirmed with votes by only 4 Senators in favor?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

anyone else find it strange that a bill could be passed or a nominee confirmed with votes by only 4 Senators in favor?

The Senate only has 7 members now. So 4 is a majority. Its very rare that such a situation occurs.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

In the event that shua's lawsuit succeeds, a fix will be needed.  I have a proposed one, but it would be a pain for the SoFE to administer, so you might want to consult with Franzl to see if he has any better ideas.

Improvement of Election Certification Act

The Consolidated Electoral System Reform Act is amended by inserting the following as Clause 2a of Section 10 of that Act:

2a. In certifying the result the voting booth administrator shall provide a copy of each ballot that is in the voting booth.  Said copy may be in the form of a quote of the ballot, a screenshot of one or more ballots, or such other form that will provide a complete and accurate record of voter intent. This shall be done for all ballots, including any that are discounted under Clause 3 of this Section. In any lawsuit challenging the validity of certified election results, said copy shall be considered prima facie evidence of the state of the voting booth at the time of certification.

[bgwah]

It shouldn't be too difficult to go File > Save page as on every page of the voting booth, just to have a backup.

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

In the event that shua's lawsuit succeeds, a fix will be needed.  I have a proposed one, but it would be a pain for the SoFE to administer, so you might want to consult with Franzl to see if he has any better ideas.

Improvement of Election Certification Act

The Consolidated Electoral System Reform Act is amended by inserting the following as Clause 2a of Section 10 of that Act:

2a. In certifying the result the voting booth administrator shall provide a copy of each ballot that is in the voting booth.  Said copy may be in the form of a quote of the ballot, a screenshot of one or more ballots, or such other form that will provide a complete and accurate record of voter intent. This shall be done for all ballots, including any that are discounted under Clause 3 of this Section. In any lawsuit challenging the validity of certified election results, said copy shall be considered prima facie evidence of the state of the voting booth at the time of certification.

i am not challenging this matter on the basis of the consolidated electoral system reform act. i am challenging it on the basis of our constitution. that is the thing that would have to be amended.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

i am not challenging this matter on the basis of the consolidated electoral system reform act. i am challenging it on the basis of our constitution. that is the thing that would have to be amended.

I do not believe you have any chance of persuading the court to apply Article V Section 2 Clause 8 to a ballot deleted after the vote has been certified.

You might have a chance of persuading the court that there is insufficient evidence that gporter's ballot existed to be counted and that therefore it should not be used to determine who won the election. (For that matter even if you succeed in your constitutional claim, and the Constitution needs amending so that it would not apply, I can easily see a future case where the reliability of what votes had been certified would come up, and my proposed bill would help establish a standard of evidence in such cases.)

[🐒Gods of Prosperity🔱🐲💸]

i am not challenging this matter on the basis of the consolidated electoral system reform act. i am challenging it on the basis of our constitution. that is the thing that would have to be amended.

I do not believe you have any chance of persuading the court to apply Article V Section 2 Clause 8 to a ballot deleted after the vote has been certified.

You might have a chance of persuading the court that there is insufficient evidence that gporter's ballot existed to be counted and that therefore it should not be used to determine who won the election. (For that matter even if you succeed in your constitutional claim, and the Constitution needs amending so that it would not apply, I can easily see a future case where the reliability of what votes had been certified would come up, and my proposed bill would help establish a standard of evidence in such cases.)

i am curious as to whether you see anything in the constitution that would limit the applicability of that clause.  you do make a good point about the need to improve reliability in election certification process that would extend beyond this particular issue.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

I'll admit that the relevant clause in the constitution is ambiguously worded, but it makes absolutely no sense for a change done after the conclusion of the election to affect the results of the election.  Hence, if a lawsuit is to be successful, it will be because the change creates doubt as to what the ballot contained at the conclusion of the election, not because said change requires the ballot to be thrown out.